Soundboard Remaster Series (pre-2000 bootlegs)

mtranfo

Really awesome sound. Thank you very much!!

Bronx Bombers

Great job this is outstanding, thank you

nomorecrackpipes

ridley wrote:

bazzer wrote:

How are these better than the old SVxxx series bootlegs? I haven't tried any yet, do they files contain source info?

Unfortunately the files do not contain full source info.

The sound quality of these is superior to the SV series IMO (no offence to those involved with SV, they were pioneers at this!), as rather than just patching sources together, JWB has actually 'remastered' levels etc to improve the balance between instruments, low-end versus high-end and so forth. Have a listen for yourself!

Also, some of the SV shows did not use the best sources available (e.g. Melbourne 1998 used the post-FM source rather than the Sony Promo).

Thanks for the effort on these, I really love the old remasters of the definitive PJ shows.

It's easy to say your version is the best, but as someone who was minimally involved in the SV series I have to to listen to these to make the comparisons ... some people spent a lot of time tracking down the sources, comparing them to existing copies, and fixing them up. A lot of the SV series wasn't "remastered" because A) these were typically produced 03-06 where it was more difficult/expensive to do remasters Spaced and gang wanted to keep the recordings as true to the original recording as possible.

My perception going into these listens: SV's 4/3/94 is going to be hard to top, 11/3/96 did need some work (as did 3/17/95), 11/1/95 and 3/5/98 were perfect as they were, and 7/22/98 was infuriatingly thin.

Also, is there any way you can provide the source info? I maintain PJ's db.etree.org source list and it's sort of maddening without it.

In addition, I've never been convinced 11/5/93 is a soundboard, I simply think the taper was just really good and the silver bootleg was mislabeled from the start. I think the same person recorded 6/22/95 and 6/24/95 (same part of California) and both those shows sound great. I don't know, it's been a while since I've listened to that 93 show and the parts that were officially released from it are clouding my thoughts.

stardawg

Great news! :shock:
I've got to have these...
Thanks in advance for your work.

titchinello

excellent, bookmarked the page, can't wait to here these.

Stinkfoot

nomorecrackpipes wrote:

My perception going into these listens: SV's 4/3/94 is going to be hard to top, 11/3/96 did need some work (as did 3/17/95), 11/1/95 and 3/5/98 were perfect as they were, and 7/22/98 was infuriatingly thin.

I've downloaded and listened to a few of these and like you, I am happy with the versions I have of Melbourne 98, Berlin 96 (both promo versions) and Atlanta 94.

BUT, I can confirm that Seattle 98 sounds amazing in the version they've created here. It was always one of those shows that I loved listening to but was never quite happy with the 'SBD' sound of the boot. This version sounds much more full and punchy.

Good effort guys!

Given to...

I'll be using some of my storage space for these!

LarsK13

Thank You :thumbup:

demetrios

nomorecrackpipes wrote:

Also, is there any way you can provide the source info? I maintain PJ's db.etree.org source list and it's sort of maddening without it.

I too would love to see the sources / transfers info used in making the '12 Soundboard Remaster Series.

Without a source info these would be just listed over @ db.etree.org as ..

Source: unknown > flac

right?

ridley

nomorecrackpipes wrote:

It's easy to say your version is the best, but as someone who was minimally involved in the SV series I have to to listen to these to make the comparisons ... some people spent a lot of time tracking down the sources, comparing them to existing copies, and fixing them up. A lot of the SV series wasn't "remastered" because A) these were typically produced 03-06 where it was more difficult/expensive to do remasters Spaced and gang wanted to keep the recordings as true to the original recording as possible.

Hit the nail on the head there! I don't really see this collection as being 'in competition' with the SV series - they are both trying to do different things - diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks!

nomorecrackpipes wrote:

Also, is there any way you can provide the source info? I maintain PJ's db.etree.org source list and it's sort of maddening without it.

I'll get in touch with JWB and see if he can provide more detailed source info.

nomorecrackpipes wrote:

In addition, I've never been convinced 11/5/93 is a soundboard, I simply think the taper was just really good and the silver bootleg was mislabeled from the start. I think the same person recorded 6/22/95 and 6/24/95 (same part of California) and both those shows sound great. I don't know, it's been a while since I've listened to that 93 show and the parts that were officially released from it are clouding my thoughts.

I'm really 50/50 on this, one of the great PJ taping mysteries

Whynot2nightsinGloben wrote:

Baba O'Riley at Indio, California Empire Polo Fields Nov 05, 1993 is missing in the MP3 files! Could you fix that? It's on the old boot I have.

Baba was not included because only an audience source exists for this track.

ridley

One of the all-time classics, Melbourne 1998, is now up.

capthowdy1027

Freakin' awesome. Many thanks for posting these.

ridley

For final in the series, Seattle 1998, JWB has managed to bring this clean but rather thin-sounding recording up to a similar standard to Live On Two Legs (widely considered to be the gold standard in PJ live mixing/mastering :thumbup:)

darth

Wow the seattle 98 improvement is amazing. Thanks for these

Brendo71

These are awesome, thanks, but I can't locate the 1992-09-26 Honolulu show in MP3 format.

WhyNotSweden

Brendo71 wrote:

These are awesome, thanks, but I can't locate the 1992-09-26 Honolulu show in MP3 format.

Thats right, this one is still missing in the MP3 format, hope he make an upload....

mtx

I Love You Man
Thanks a lot

Stinkfoot

Wow. I listened to Honolulu and Finsbury Park last night and they really are incredible.

Especially Finsbury Park. It's now up there in sound quality with Drop In The Park.

Truly awesome job on these to all those concerned. I'll definitely be checking them all out now!

ridley

Honolulu 1992 is now up in mp3 format. Note that brief digi-noise in 'Release' has been patched with a slightly inferior source.





All shows are now uploaded in both FLAC. and mp3.

For those who prefer torrents, it is also up on jam-river and Demonoid.

Source info for those who were interested:

1991-10-06 Hollywood, CA - Promo CD
1992-02-12 Amsterdam, NE - Pre-FM > DAT
1992-03-04 Utrecht, NE - Pre-FM > DAT
1992-06-06 London, UK - Promo CD
1992-09-26 Honolulu, HI - Minidisc w/ ANA patches
1993-07-XX Rotterdam, NE - FM Broadcast > DAT
1993-11-05 Indio, CA - Manifesting Morrison
1994-04-03 Atlanta, GA - Aussie Promo w/ KROQ patches
1995-01-14 Washington, DC - Basecamp w/ AUD patches
1995-03-17 Melbourne, AU - Promo CD w/ FM patches
1995-11-01 Salt Lake City, UT - SBD > DAT w/ FM patches
1996-11-03 Berlin, DE - Promo CD
1998-03-05 Melbourne, AU - Promo CD
1998-07-22 Seattle, WA - SBD > DAT

:thumbup:

WhyNotSweden

Stinkfoot

I'm loving the 'patched' Release and STBC from Washington 95. It makes all the difference and sounds amazing!

rickles3

Thanks so much for these! I've made it through 4 of the shows so far, and everything sounds fantastic. Especially glad to have the '94 Atlanta show, I still remember taping that one off the radio.

egross

Is there a torrent available for the MP3 versions?

papa_pearls_jam.pj20

These sound so, so good! Great artwork too!

Thank you!!!!!

ridley

egross wrote:

Is there a torrent available for the MP3 versions?

Yes. It's a different mp3 rip to those posted on mediafire, these are in 320Kbps while mine are VBR (and contain artwork in the ID-tag).

Berasapj

Thanks a lot!!

One of the awesomest things I've seen here so far

Thanks again

boyo79

The Atlanta show - is there any difference between this one and the 3 disc Dissident release?

curly

such a cool band...
such cool extended family...
Thanks...
Curly

demetrios

boyo79 wrote:

The Atlanta show - is there any difference between this one and the 3 disc Dissident release?

Whipping, Betterman & Satan's Bed is on this one.

ridley

demetrios wrote:

boyo79 wrote:

The Atlanta show - is there any difference between this one and the 3 disc Dissident release?

Whipping, Betterman & Satan's Bed is on this one.

Don't forget Sonic Reducer