Gas prices out of control

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President Obama's re-elect team defended White House energy policy on Sunday as gas prices shoot toward the $4 mark and beyond, a level that could devastate voters' pocketbooks as well as Obama's chances for a second term.

Nationally, gas prices are $3.53 a gallon, up 25 cents since Jan. 1, and likely headed to $4.25 a gallon by late April. Republicans have demanded more oil production at home, as well as building the Keystone XL pipeline across the middle of the U.S. to allow oil from Canada to reach Texas refineries.


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StillHere

he still stands wrote:

what happened in '08 to lower the prices so drastically? was it election time?

its all a bunch of you know what

chadwick

walk fuckers. shut your mouthes and fucking walk. ride bikes and car pool. get on the fucking city bus if your city has one. buncha cry baby candy ass bullshit.

it costs a lot of fucking money to get you that gasoline. put in more oil drills and pipelines? great. let's ruin the planet even quicker than we already are.

don't you blind people see their is no fix to sucking up oil? it will never-ever be cheap ever again.... you are not ever going to save money when dealing with oil fucks. if you truly believe in these folks and the government screwballs that sleep with oil fucks... you're in a bad state of consciousness.

chadwick

speaking of oil fucks... how is BP doing these days? nice gulf, dickheads. a lot of hush hush bullshit goes on down in the gulf.

he still stands

StillHere wrote:

he still stands wrote:

what happened in '08 to lower the prices so drastically? was it election time?

its all a bunch of you know what

that was when the bank and auto industries were bailed out, when most of the speculators exited the market, and the worst part of the recession. the economy stalled, people stopped buying everything, so the oil suppliers gave us more oil to cheapen the price. as the economy picks up, the oil suppliers shut off a few spickets to raise the price and maximize profit. drilling in the arctic or building a pipeline from Canada to the Gulf doesn't get us any oil for many years, so it has little to no affect on the market. the news of either would probably knock down the price a few nickels for a few weeks is all. maybe. i don't think obama or any other president has any short-term determination of the price of oil or gas, short of killing people for more of it.

curly

as an owner of a business with a half dozen trucks out there...'
it does suck...i prob agree with chadwich...besides walk, there isn't much we can do...

chadwick

curly wrote:

as an owner of a business with a half dozen trucks out there...'
it does suck...i prob agree with chadwich...besides walk, there isn't much we can do...

i remember when i drove a semi for someone like you. two 150 gallon tanks under the doors, tank on each side.
holy shit man. that was brutal. and i drove teams a lot of the time. that truck rolled 24x7. 80,000 pound truck gets about 5 or 6 miles per gallon. it wasn't pretty. many times i was floored at the price of diesel we had went through and was going through and would be going through in the future. all the boss can do is charge more for delivery fee . and maybe i won't get a raise this year.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

I drive... and I'm all for higher gas prices. User fees- that's what the cost amounts to. Buy a big SUV... then prepare to pay the price. I realize that transportation costs will go up as well leading to higher priced items in department stores; but again... user fees.

Gas is still cheaper than water.

chadwick

if people just stopped and realized how much fuel we are using they would get sick. it is so huge it is mind boggling and instant vertigo. way spun out of control. this is this planet as we know it.

maj4e

I drive a small fuel efficient car at fuel efficient speeds. It's amazing to me the size and speed of the cars/suvs etc that blow past me on my commute every day. These same people b*tch about gas prices.

StillHere

its not true
we are not sheep
just because the powers that be have drilled this into your head does not make it so
consider:

bush sr. is close friends and business partners with the bin laden family
mega millionaire oil tycoons
has been since way before any of the osama business started

the oil prices are controlled by supply and demand ... yes
but the supply and demand is controlled by the same powers that be that would have you believe this nonsense

its all about money
NOT about the availability

that being said'
i am all for conservation...110 %

i just don't believe everything that is shoved down my throat

and i know you don't either

JonnyPistachio

chadwick wrote:

if people just stopped and realized how much fuel we are using they would get sick. it is so huge it is mind boggling and instant vertigo. way spun out of control. this is this planet as we know it.

if we could actually wrap our heads around the amount of crap we consume...I cant even fathom.

maj4e wrote:

I drive a small fuel efficient car at fuel efficient speeds. It's amazing to me the size and speed of the cars/suvs etc that blow past me on my commute every day. These same people b*tch about gas prices.

There are a few communities in south florida where you'd be amazed if you saw a fuel efficient car. I was in the park the other day and realized that about 90% of the vehicles were huge cadillac escalades, yukons, and Hummers. Folks have a lot of money in some of these parts and gas prices dont bother them , i suppose.

hedonist

I hope I don't get hammered for this

My guy has a 2010 Camaro - doesn't get the best mileage AT ALL - but his commute to work is maybe three miles (and a fun one at that).

My car is 15 years old; work and home are within a mile of eachother. Mileage again, not so great, but I don't drive all that much aside from daily errands and whatnot.

We fill up once a month or so.

So are we the bad guys because of our shitty mileage / fuel inefficiency?

Are we NOT, because of filling up less?

maj4e

I'd say you're not. Fuel economy isn't necessarily how much mpg's if you don't drive much.

An example of the opposite. One wants to live way out in the suburbs for a nice house and has a 60 mile each way commute but drives a prius. He/she is just as guilty as someone who drives 15 miles but has a hummer.

I live 20 miles away but I bought my house from a relative at a "can't say no price" but my wife's commute is only 8 miles so it works out.

Godfather.

hedonist wrote:

I hope I don't get hammered for this

My guy has a 2010 Camaro - doesn't get the best mileage AT ALL - but his commute to work is maybe three miles (and a fun one at that).

My car is 15 years old; work and home are within a mile of eachother. Mileage again, not so great, but I don't drive all that much aside from daily errands and whatnot.

We fill up once a month or so.

So are we the bad guys because of our shitty mileage / fuel inefficiency?

Are we NOT, because of filling up less?

no worries, the people on this forum are under the impression that gas/oil will no longer be needed one day...wrong ! not in our life time. drive what you want and can afford that's your right as an American

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

hedonist wrote:

I hope I don't get hammered for this

My guy has a 2010 Camaro - doesn't get the best mileage AT ALL - but his commute to work is maybe three miles (and a fun one at that).

My car is 15 years old; work and home are within a mile of eachother. Mileage again, not so great, but I don't drive all that much aside from daily errands and whatnot.

We fill up once a month or so.

So are we the bad guys because of our shitty mileage / fuel inefficiency?

Are we NOT, because of filling up less?

That is a good point. its all about how much we consume in the long run too.
BUT, I think with the options that are coming out (and in the future), you'd still be doing a good thing if you we able to purchase an automobile that got even better gas mileage. What if ever single person was able to increase their mileage per gallon? What a difference that would make.

I'm actually surprised though at some of the mpg capabilities of a lot of new cars. That camaro isnt terrible..especially compared to the previous model. I suppose its good that there are mpg regulations that car manufacturers have to follow. Many are boosting their mpg very nicely.

Wobbie

chadwick wrote:

speaking of oil fucks... how is BP doing these days?

they made $7.6 BILLION last quarter

never fear, newt has a plan for $2.50/gal gas :roll:

gimmesometruth27

our foreign policy is having a direct effect on gas prices around the world. we are threatening iran and they are cutting off supplies to countries like britain and their gas prices are now going to go through the roof. keep it up america. keep up with the sanctions and keep talking shit to iran and they will do the same to us. what we fail to realize is that any time you are dealing with the buying and selling of a finite supply of some resource it is ALWAYS a seller's market. the increased cost will always be passed on to the buyer...seems that our leaders also fail to grasp that one of the main ways to unseat a sitting president is to have the economy suffer from a market that is too volitile and to keep the gas prices high.

pjhawks

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

our foreign policy is having a direct effect on gas prices around the world. we are threatening iran and they are cutting off supplies to countries like britain and their gas prices are now going to go through the roof. keep it up america. keep up with the sanctions and keep talking shit to iran and they will do the same to us. what we fail to realize is that any time you are dealing with the buying and selling of a finite supply of some resource it is ALWAYS a seller's market. the increased cost will always be passed on to the buyer...seems that our leaders also fail to grasp that one of the main ways to unseat a sitting president is to have the economy suffer from a market that is too volitile and to keep the gas prices high.

iran cutting off supplies hurts them as much as anyone else. it makes no sense to voluntarily hurt your own economy to spite other nations. and iran supplies a very small percentage (i'd have to look up the actual number) of oil to us.

and the general american public, including myself, is not going to voluntarily change their oil and gas habits. fact is there isn't a much cheaper or more convenient alternative to the general american consumer at this point. until it becomes easier and more convenient we will be reliant on gas and oil.

Godfather.

pjhawks wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

our foreign policy is having a direct effect on gas prices around the world. we are threatening iran and they are cutting off supplies to countries like britain and their gas prices are now going to go through the roof. keep it up america. keep up with the sanctions and keep talking shit to iran and they will do the same to us. what we fail to realize is that any time you are dealing with the buying and selling of a finite supply of some resource it is ALWAYS a seller's market. the increased cost will always be passed on to the buyer...seems that our leaders also fail to grasp that one of the main ways to unseat a sitting president is to have the economy suffer from a market that is too volitile and to keep the gas prices high.

iran cutting off supplies hurts them as much as anyone else. it makes no sense to voluntarily hurt your own economy to spite other nations. and iran supplies a very small percentage (i'd have to look up the actual number) of oil to us.

and the general american public, including myself, is not going to voluntarily change their oil and gas habits. fact is there isn't a much cheaper or more convenient alternative to the general american consumer at this point. until it becomes easier and more convenient we will be reliant on gas and oil.

great post ! so true.

Godfather.