Question to the forum about prices...

81

boyo79 wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

This forum should have the best deals on hard to find PJ items, but I don't think you can fault people for selling the items at market value, either. There are many postings on this board that heighten the lameness more than people selling stuff for what it costs on ebay...highjacking FS threads b/c you don't like the price, posting threads with no prices, making offers by pm to said threads....People that do those things should lose their access to the LD forum, imo.

There's a thread selling a PJ20 billboard print today and its been hijacked already

saw that.

it's not worth the trouble to sell collectable stuff here....

boyo79

81 wrote:

boyo79 wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

This forum should have the best deals on hard to find PJ items, but I don't think you can fault people for selling the items at market value, either. There are many postings on this board that heighten the lameness more than people selling stuff for what it costs on ebay...highjacking FS threads b/c you don't like the price, posting threads with no prices, making offers by pm to said threads....People that do those things should lose their access to the LD forum, imo.

There's a thread selling a PJ20 billboard print today and its been hijacked already

saw that.

it's not worth the trouble to sell collectable stuff here....

Definitely. If I had a collectable for sale, I'd offer to some PJ friends and if they said no I'd put it on ebay. Too much hassle here

HesCalledDyer

I think some of the responsibility can lie within the band and 10C themselves. Why not produce more goods so that more and more people have the opportunity to buy items they want? I know there is production cost and labor and all that, but if I were running a business I wouldn't want a third party or a consumer making more profit from my products than I am. I mean, it's gonna happen now and again, but with PJ and 10C it's happening with almost every item in the Goods section these days. Which is why pretty much anything media related that I want, I buy immediately - without question or thought - to ensure my copy.

pjradio

81 wrote:

white backspacer is fetching 500? sold

Put me on the list as well :wtf:

81

pjradio wrote:

81 wrote:

white backspacer is fetching 500? sold

Put me on the list as well :wtf:

hell..i'll take 200 for it.....

Suziemay

pjradio wrote:

81 wrote:

white backspacer is fetching 500? sold

Put me on the list as well :wtf:

Fine, substitute "White BS" for "PJ20 Billboard", I was just throwing out limited items that came to mind to make a point :evil: :evil:

I think we scared OP away. Caught-A-Bolt-Of-Lightning... hellooo? I really do want to hear what you think now that you've had some responses to your question?

dudeman

It seems to me that some of you should listen to "Corduroy" again.

Also, pricing vinyl and other PJ goods so high that only a certain class of people can afford them seems to be contrary to the work PJ does to keep prices for tickets, goods and music low enough for everyone to afford. Wasn't that the issue behind Ticketmaster raping people for concert tickets? Or the bootleg program, which gives every PJ fan access to high quality, affordable bootlegs?

I would love to own more PJ albums on vinyl, but spending hundreds of dollars on a record is not an option for myself, and I assume many other fans. Also, I have no interest in helping anyone get rich by hoarding albums while they're available just to flip them later for ridiculous amounts of money.

I like the idea of being a PJ fan for their music, not exclusivity, elitism or capital gain.

81

dudeman wrote:

It seems to me that some of you should listen to "Corduroy" again.

Also, pricing vinyl and other PJ goods so high that only a certain class of people can afford them seems to be contrary to the work PJ does to keep prices for tickets, goods and music low enough for everyone to afford. Wasn't that the issue behind Ticketmaster raping people for concert tickets? Or the bootleg program, which gives every PJ fan access to high quality, affordable bootlegs?

I would love to own more PJ albums on vinyl, but spending hundreds of dollars on a record is not an option for myself, and I assume many other fans. Also, I have no interest in helping anyone get rich by hoarding albums while they're available just to flip them later for ridiculous amounts of money.

I like the idea of being a PJ fan for their music, not exclusivity, elitism or capital gain.

pretty sure my radiohead tickets are cheaper than any PJ tickets i've bought lately

Heisenberg

boyo79 wrote:

more and more people are buying items for trade-bait

This is the problem I have with what has been going on here lately. It's not for me to say how people should conduct themselves, but it seems to me that this community has always been overwhelmingly about friendship and generosity over the years. This recent "trade-bait"/"PJ-Bay" thing completely defeats that though. Buying items you don't even want simply to jack up the price down the road, thus depriving someone who may actually want the item doesn't seem right to me within the confines of this particular community. Do you think Deadheads used to hoard memorabilia to rip off other Deadheads for profit?
I happened to be online when the backpack first posted. I knew immediately that this thing would be a hot commodity. I would have liked to have had one but wasn't sure how much I'd use it, so I let it go so someone else could enjoy it. Never once did it cross my mind "hey...I could buy this now and make a shitload of money off of it down the road." Unfortunately, it seems too many members had that exact thought.
I have items in my collection that are listed on various sites as being worth several hundreds of dollars. To me that makes no difference. To me, these items are priceless, and regardless of how much I might be able to get for them, they will never go anywhere until I'm not around anymore and then they will likely be given to other members of this community. I'm not sayng others aren't free to have a different perspective, but to me, this band has never been about maximizing profit and I hate that many members of he 10c now seem to be about not much more than that. There is a difference between legitimatly wanting an item...buying it...and then later down the road deciding to part with it for a fair market value (whatever that might be), and buying something strictly to price gouge someone you are supposed to share a community with, just because you know you can. We're supposed to be here enjoying a band, their music, and each other...not behaving like wall street execs trading commodoties.

dimitrispearljam

Heisenberg wrote:

boyo79 wrote:

more and more people are buying items for trade-bait

This is the problem I have with what has been going on here lately. It's not for me to say how people should conduct themselves, but it seems to me that this community has always been overwhelmingly about friendship and generosity over the years. This recent "trade-bait"/"PJ-Bay" thing completely defeats that though. Buying items you don't even want simply to jack up the price down the road, thus depriving someone who may actually want the item doesn't seem right to me within the confines of this particular community. Do you think Deadheads used to hoard memorabilia to rip off other Deadheads for profit?
I happened to be online when the backpack first posted. I knew immediately that this thing would be a hot commodity. I would have liked to have had one but wasn't sure how much I'd use it, so I let it go so someone else could enjoy it. Never once did it cross my mind "hey...I could buy this now and make a shitload of money off of it down the road." Unfortunately, it seems too many members had that exact thought.
I have items in my collection that are listed on various sites as being worth several hundreds of dollars. To me that makes no difference. To me, these items are priceless, and regardless of how much I might be able to get for them, they will never go anywhere until I'm not around anymore and then they will likely be given to other members of this community. I'm not sayng others aren't free to have a different perspective, but to me, this band has never been about maximizing profit and I hate that many members of he 10c now seem to be about not much more than that. There is a difference between legitimatly wanting an item...buying it...and then later down the road deciding to part with it for a fair market value (whatever that might be), and buying something stricttly to price gouge someone you are supposed to share a community with, just because you know you can. We're supposed to be here enjoying a band, their music, and each other...not behaving like wall street execs trading commodoties.

Beautiful...

pjradio

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Heisenberg wrote:

boyo79 wrote:

more and more people are buying items for trade-bait

This is the problem I have with what has been going on here lately. It's not for me to say how people should conduct themselves, but it seems to me that this community has always been overwhelmingly about friendship and generosity over the years. This recent "trade-bait"/"PJ-Bay" thing completely defeats that though. Buying items you don't even want simply to jack up the price down the road, thus depriving someone who may actually want the item doesn't seem right to me within the confines of this particular community. Do you think Deadheads used to hoard memorabilia to rip off other Deadheads for profit?
I happened to be online when the backpack first posted. I knew immediately that this thing would be a hot commodity. I would have liked to have had one but wasn't sure how much I'd use it, so I let it go so someone else could enjoy it. Never once did it cross my mind "hey...I could buy this now and make a shitload of money off of it down the road." Unfortunately, it seems too many members had that exact thought.
I have items in my collection that are listed on various sites as being worth several hundreds of dollars. To me that makes no difference. To me, these items are priceless, and regardless of how much I might be able to get for them, they will never go anywhere until I'm not around anymore and then they will likely be given to other members of this community. I'm not sayng others aren't free to have a different perspective, but to me, this band has never been about maximizing profit and I hate that many members of he 10c now seem to be about not much more than that. There is a difference between legitimatly wanting an item...buying it...and then later down the road deciding to part with it for a fair market value (whatever that might be), and buying something stricttly to price gouge someone you are supposed to share a community with, just because you know you can. We're supposed to be here enjoying a band, their music, and each other...not behaving like wall street execs trading commodoties.

Beautiful...

you tell 'em dimi...http://youtu.be/-pgU3orzJDw

PJ-Cubs

Heisenberg wrote:

boyo79 wrote:

more and more people are buying items for trade-bait

... There is a difference between legitimatly wanting an item...buying it...and then later down the road deciding to part with it for a fair market value (whatever that might be), and buying something strictly to price gouge someone you are supposed to share a community with, just because you know you can. We're supposed to be here enjoying a band, their music, and each other...not behaving like wall street execs trading commodoties.

This

HesCalledDyer

Bingo.