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dlymnflddlymnfld CT Posts: 918
edited February 2012 in Other Music
but they always announce a tour in ample time and give you all the dates at once.
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    edited February 2012
    dlymnfld wrote:
    but they always announce a tour in ample time and give you all the dates at once.

    Are you saying PJ doesn't give you enough time? Because the Euro tour was announced over 6 months ahead of time as were Ed's tours and PJ20 and Canada were 5 months. All 5 months plus.

    If you can't plan a trip to a show in 6 months then you really have issues.
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  • dlymnflddlymnfld CT Posts: 918
    I am. Pearl Jam is notorious for giving you enough time for European tours but not US tours. Plus they never put out all the dates at once (see EV tour dates). My reason for this post is out of frustration as my buddy want me to go see Dave at the Gorge in September but I would much rather travel to see Pearl Jam. The problem is you never know how much time PJ will announce dates. I guess I could have worse problems.
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    edited February 2012
    dlymnfld wrote:
    I am. Pearl Jam is notorious for giving you enough time for European tours but not US tours. Plus they never put out all the dates at once (see EV tour dates). My reason for this post is out of frustration as my buddy want me to go see Dave at the Gorge in September but I would much rather travel to see Pearl Jam. The problem is you never know how much time PJ will announce dates. I guess I could have worse problems.

    So because you don't know if you want to go to DMB, PJ has to give you a year advance notice if they are playing and when?

    I have always had plenty of time to decide on PJ shows. I have no idea what you are talking about honestly.

    Do you honestly need more than 6 months advance notice on a show? and honestly I couldn't give a flying %^&$ what DMB band does.

    Not to mention most of DMB shows lately have been festival shows where he needs a lot more time to sell 60,000 + tickets, where PJ is selling 25,000-30,000 and they don't need as much time.

    And since you said I can say whatever I want about his music..............It sux.
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  • dlymnflddlymnfld CT Posts: 918
    When you live in CT and want to fly to WA and you have two kids yes you need ample time. But I am not going to get into an argument with you as that is kind of your "thing" on this forum. I am just saying Dave Matthews Band always give all dates at once and PJ does not. Just an observation not really a big deal. Have a nice day.
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    dlymnfld wrote:
    When you live in CT and want to fly to WA and you have two kids yes you need ample time. But I am not going to get into an argument with you as that is kind of your "thing" on this forum. I am just saying Dave Matthews Band always give all dates at once and PJ does not. Just an observation not really a big deal. Have a nice day.

    Sux getting old and having kids. But 6 months is plenty of time to plan a trip to a show. In fact it can be done on a website in 10 minutes if you have the money or an hour at a travel agency.

    It doesn't take 6 months to find a hotel, flight and rental car anymore. It took me a whole 20 minutes to plan my PJ20 trip and my sister-in-law and her husband planned their trip to PJ20 and have 4 kids in about the same time and were coming in from Tucson, AZ.

    PJ won't be playing in the US until the Probably Late August early Sept. so if they do plan touring the US then it won't be until probably late March or early April before you hear anything. If they tour later you may not hear anything until closer to May.
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  • DEEPDEEP Posts: 274
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    dlymnfld wrote:
    When you live in CT and want to fly to WA and you have two kids yes you need ample time. But I am not going to get into an argument with you as that is kind of your "thing" on this forum. I am just saying Dave Matthews Band always give all dates at once and PJ does not. Just an observation not really a big deal. Have a nice day.

    Sux getting old and having kids. But 6 months is plenty of time to plan a trip to a show. In fact it can be done on a website in 10 minutes if you have the money or an hour at a travel agency.

    It doesn't take 6 months to find a hotel, flight and rental car anymore. It took me a whole 20 minutes to plan my PJ20 trip and my sister-in-law and her husband planned their trip to PJ20 and have 4 kids in about the same time and were coming in from Tucson, AZ.

    PJ won't be playing in the US until the Probably Late August early Sept. so if they do plan touring the US then it won't be until probably late March or early April before you hear anything. If they tour later you may not hear anything until closer to May.
    sounds like someone has some personal issues,,,you completely missed this person's point and wanted to suddenly start bashing them,,,who freakin cares if you can do youre online stuff in 10 minutes...get over yourself and your bitterness
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,050
    dlymnfld wrote:
    but they always announce a tour in ample time and give you all the dates at once.
    I agree - and they actually TOUR the US. When was the last time PJ had a tour that covers a lot more than just one area of the US? 2003?

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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    DEEP wrote:
    sounds like someone has some personal issues,,,you completely missed this person's point and wanted to suddenly start bashing them,,,who freakin cares if you can do youre online stuff in 10 minutes...get over yourself and your bitterness

    No personal issues. Just stating that PJ does in fact give plenty of notice for tours. You never have a lot of time before the presale, but you have way more than enough time to plan it once you secure tickets.
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  • JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Hooray that there are dates but Camden on a Tuesday and Wednesday sucks balls.
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    LukinFan wrote:
    dlymnfld wrote:
    but they always announce a tour in ample time and give you all the dates at once.
    I agree - and they actually TOUR the US. When was the last time PJ had a tour that covers a lot more than just one area of the US? 2003?

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    The days of PJ doing huge US tours are over. Not only could they not pull it off, they don't want to do it.

    DMB is far more popular than PJ and can tour the whole US with no hassles.
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Hooray that there are dates but Camden on a Tuesday and Wednesday sucks balls.

    There aren't many weekend concerts anymore because the venues are much cheaper to rent during the week for the bands.
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  • JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Hooray that there are dates but Camden on a Tuesday and Wednesday sucks balls.

    There aren't many weekend concerts anymore because the venues are much cheaper to rent during the week for the bands.

    I wouldn't want DMB's bank account to suffer ;)
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    I love how the OP complains about PJ's notice when PJ's summer up to the end of July was announced weeks before DMB's summer tour which only goes to July. Good stuff.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    The last 2010 US tour had a pretty short lead time. I don't personally mind it, but I could see how it's an issue for people needing to travel for it. And it's obviously not totally about plans getting laid out, but also the better deals you can find on flights and hotels by booking earlier.

    Being that I don't travel a whole lot for shows and I have a built in babysitter the short lead time was pretty cool for me. I ordered those PJ tix and it seemed like the next week I was loading up and heading to St. Louis.
  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    JK_Livin wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Hooray that there are dates but Camden on a Tuesday and Wednesday sucks balls.

    There aren't many weekend concerts anymore because the venues are much cheaper to rent during the week for the bands.

    I wouldn't want DMB's bank account to suffer ;)

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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    DewieCox wrote:
    The last 2010 US tour had a pretty short lead time. I don't personally mind it, but I could see how it's an issue for people needing to travel for it. And it's obviously not totally about plans getting laid out, but also the better deals you can find on flights and hotels by booking earlier.

    Being that I don't travel a whole lot for shows and I have a built in babysitter the short lead time was pretty cool for me. I ordered those PJ tix and it seemed like the next week I was loading up and heading to St. Louis.

    I wouldn't consider 2010 a tour. It was 18 days long. But yes that had a 2 month window which is short. That's the only tour I ever remember being like that though.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    The last 2010 US tour had a pretty short lead time. I don't personally mind it, but I could see how it's an issue for people needing to travel for it. And it's obviously not totally about plans getting laid out, but also the better deals you can find on flights and hotels by booking earlier.

    Being that I don't travel a whole lot for shows and I have a built in babysitter the short lead time was pretty cool for me. I ordered those PJ tix and it seemed like the next week I was loading up and heading to St. Louis.

    I wouldn't consider 2010 a tour. It was 18 days long. But yes that had a 2 month window which is short. That's the only tour I ever remember being like that though.

    It was a tour.

    tour (tr)
    n.
    1. A trip with visits to various places of interest for business, pleasure, or instruction.

    That's why I didn't mention others. I think there was plenty of lead time for the other shows in my order history.
  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Good work on needing dictionary.com to define "tour". Well played. :lol::lol: I think we both know that 2010 was a pitstop, not a tour. But if you want to be cool, you certainly gave it the old college try.

    I had plenty of time planning my trek to NYC in 2010. I just need 3 days. The day to buy the tickets, a day to plan it and a day to travel. The other 57 days I was sitting and waiting. What ever will I do with the extra 150-180 days when they give their 5-6 month notice on the US tour?
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    Good work on needing dictionary.com to define "tour". Well played. :lol::lol: I think we both know that 2010 was a pitstop, not a tour. But if you want to be cool, you certainly gave it the old college try.

    I had plenty of time planning my trek to NYC in 2010. I just need 3 days. The day to buy the tickets, a day to plan it and a day to travel. The other 57 days I was sitting and waiting. What ever will I do with the extra 150-180 days when they give their 5-6 month notice on the US tour?

    Judging by your comments you didn't seem to have a good grasp of the definition. I'm not trying to be cool, just trying to be helpful.

    What makes 2010 a "pitstop" and anything they've done since 08 more than that?

    You've gotta be the most ignorant know it all I've ever come across on the internet. That's quite a feat. Some great trolling though.

    That's great that it worked out for you.
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    DewieCox wrote:
    You've gotta be the most ignorant know it all I've ever come across on the internet.

    Stop, you're making me blush!!! :oops:
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  • jamburgerjamburger Posts: 1,775
    Some misinformation being spouted in this thread I thought I would correct:

    Dave's tour dates run through the end of Labor Day week... not July.

    The tour dates are almost evenly dispersed between weekend nights (Friday/Saturday) and weekday nights.

    The dictionary.com definition of tour is different than the one being posted here.

    The "ignore" feature works best for me when you don't quote the ignorance and force me to see it.
  • dlymnflddlymnfld CT Posts: 918
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    You've gotta be the most ignorant know it all I've ever come across on the internet.

    I think the forum term is "troll". Some people just like confrontation and or a debate. I was just trying to vent my frustration as tickets go on sale for DMB on 3/9/12. I don't know what to do as the Pavilion will sell out and I don't want to sit on the lawn to see Dave and would much rather see PJ if they do tour the US. I come to this forum to have discussions with other music fans and not get into a pissing match on who's opinion or view is right or wrong. My advice is don't let him bait you. Hey maybe that's where the term "troll" comes from as reference to fishing?
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    jamburger wrote:
    The "ignore" feature works best for me when you don't quote the ignorance and force me to see it.

    My sincerest apologies
  • Illridethewave20Illridethewave20 Posts: 491
    I agree ! I think it's tough that they only give you a few days between the announcement and the time to purchase tix
  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    dlymnfld wrote:
    I was just trying to vent my frustration as tickets go on sale for DMB on 3/9/12. I don't know what to do as the Pavilion will sell out and I don't want to sit on the lawn to see Dave and would much rather see PJ if they do tour the US.

    There is honestly nothing you can do. You will probably have to decide before PJ announces a NA tour. If you really want to see PJ and travel in 2012 to see them and can't do both then I would bag DMB. If they are both equally important to you I would do the DMB travel because you know for sure that PJ will be playing in multiple locations within driving distance to CT and even places you could do short trips with like Philly depending how close to the weekend the show is.

    Or you could do one of the Dave shows close to you and wait out the PJ trip. Of course you gamble on whether they would play the Gorge. If you really like DMB I would do the Gorge trip because it's guaranteed to be there and do a local closer trip for PJ.

    I would think that if PJ is touring in the late summer in the US we will hear about it right around when those Dave tickets go on sale. There are also rumors of Ed playing dates in Europe in August which may postpone the PJ NA tour into the fall thus hearing about anything until April or May.
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  • Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    ok it sounds something like this..


    Daaaaaaaaaaaave
    Daaaaaaaaaaaave
    Daaaaaaaaaaaave
    Daaaaaaaaaaaave
    Daaaaaaaaaaaave
    Daaaaaaaaaaaave

    I love you Daaaaaaaaaaaave!

    High school girls and boys during the whole show..

    As far as planning for shows..a day or two..week max to hear back from a sitter if you have kids or someone to watch your pets...No need for months of planning.
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Wma31394 wrote:
    As far as planning for shows..a day or two..week max to hear back from a sitter if you have kids or someone to watch your pets...No need for months of planning.

    Of course you don't. It isn't 1952 anymore. You can book a European vacation in a half an hour online and have a full itinerary.
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  • dlymnflddlymnfld CT Posts: 918
    Well, I made my decision. Dave at Aaron's Amphitheatre at Lakewood on 5/22/12. I am trying to see a concert in each state and only have five states east of the Mississippi river and GA is one of them. I figured when I see a WA show it needs to be PJ as that is my band (my buddy is the DMB fan and we travel together to get the states done). This had more to do with having to make a decision before the Pavilion sold out then planning a trip in a definitive amount of time as I just saw OAR in Indy with five days of notice as I waited to see who was in the Superbowl.
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  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    could not agree more....case in point...the EV Memphis show.....people from memphis bought tickets to other cities because Memphis was not there and a few days later it was....utter garbage
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,845
    Sawyer wrote:
    could not agree more....case in point...the EV Memphis show.....people from memphis bought tickets to other cities because Memphis was not there and a few days later it was....utter garbage


    That does suck. I would pretty pissed if I lived in Memphis and already made plans to travel for a show. It's one thing to add another show in a city, but pretty brutal adding a new city after the fact.
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