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I think what you guys are referring to is 'the soap opera effect' and can be turned off. Had the same problem with our last tv purchase a few years ago. Was annoying as hell. See article below about it.The Juggler said:
Haha.....welp, I actually exchanged my LG CX for the Sony x950H yesterday. lolRygar said:The LG CX series is about the best you can get right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntosec0KRXw
I agree with Mr. Dudeman up there. The OLED picture is about as clear as you can possibly get. I mean I was blown away by it. But, I think, because it is so crystal clear and no blur, the picture constantly jutters and stutters as each frame goes by. It was giving my wife and I headaches. I think the problem is made worse by streaming services such as youtube tv, which we recently switched to as well. The LED's are not quite as bad with that.
And my old tv was a Samsung. So I was debating between that and Sony and the guy at Best Buy convinced me Sony is the better brand, currently at least.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/what-is-the-soap-opera-effect-in-tvs-and-how-to-turn-it-off/
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No its not that. I hate the soap opera effect too. Believe it or not, with these newer tvs, a way to minimize the juddering is to turn the soap opera effect on.pjhawks said:
I think what you guys are referring to is 'the soap opera effect' and can be turned off. Had the same problem with our last tv purchase a few years ago. Was annoying as hell. See article below about it.The Juggler said:
Haha.....welp, I actually exchanged my LG CX for the Sony x950H yesterday. lolRygar said:The LG CX series is about the best you can get right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntosec0KRXw
I agree with Mr. Dudeman up there. The OLED picture is about as clear as you can possibly get. I mean I was blown away by it. But, I think, because it is so crystal clear and no blur, the picture constantly jutters and stutters as each frame goes by. It was giving my wife and I headaches. I think the problem is made worse by streaming services such as youtube tv, which we recently switched to as well. The LED's are not quite as bad with that.
And my old tv was a Samsung. So I was debating between that and Sony and the guy at Best Buy convinced me Sony is the better brand, currently at least.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/what-is-the-soap-opera-effect-in-tvs-and-how-to-turn-it-off/
Judder has something to do with how fast these tvs spit out frames per second or something. It makes it look like what you're watching is juddering or bouncing up and down as they move. The soap opera effect actually smooths it out more, but......then you have the soap opera effect.
I miss the days when tvs were not confusing as fuck.www.myspace.com0 -
ah good to know. thanks for the info. should be upgrading soon so good to know this information as wellThe Juggler said:
No its not that. I hate the soap opera effect too. Believe it or not, with these newer tvs, a way to minimize the juddering is to turn the soap opera effect on.pjhawks said:
I think what you guys are referring to is 'the soap opera effect' and can be turned off. Had the same problem with our last tv purchase a few years ago. Was annoying as hell. See article below about it.The Juggler said:
Haha.....welp, I actually exchanged my LG CX for the Sony x950H yesterday. lolRygar said:The LG CX series is about the best you can get right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntosec0KRXw
I agree with Mr. Dudeman up there. The OLED picture is about as clear as you can possibly get. I mean I was blown away by it. But, I think, because it is so crystal clear and no blur, the picture constantly jutters and stutters as each frame goes by. It was giving my wife and I headaches. I think the problem is made worse by streaming services such as youtube tv, which we recently switched to as well. The LED's are not quite as bad with that.
And my old tv was a Samsung. So I was debating between that and Sony and the guy at Best Buy convinced me Sony is the better brand, currently at least.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/what-is-the-soap-opera-effect-in-tvs-and-how-to-turn-it-off/
Judder has something to do with how fast these tvs spit out frames per second or something. It makes it look like what you're watching is juddering or bouncing up and down as they move. The soap opera effect actually smooths it out more, but......then you have the soap opera effect.
I miss the days when tvs were not confusing as fuck.0 -
Hey what kind of Samsung did you get?dudeman said:We just replaced our 7 year old Samsung with a new Samsung. Great deals on TVs for BF/CM.
The thing that stood out for me with the Samsung 7 years ago was how natural and lifelike people looked on them. The LG, Sony and Vizio all made humans oversaturated and fake. More like CGI people than actual human beings. (Games and anime might look better on those though. I don't know.)
That still appears to be the case now. Lots of impressive displays at the store but the Samsungs still look more realistic to me.www.myspace.com0 -
I have a 65" LG OLED. Had it for 2-3 years now...I think...The Juggler said:I'm being told the LG's ULED technology is better than what Samsung uses? This is news to me as I've always been under the assumption Samsung is the best and my last three tvs have been Samsungs. My buddy from work, who's a real techy kind of guy, recommended that LG one and compared the picture of ULED's to the old school plasma's.
Anyone else have an LG OLED?
Best TV I've owned. Awesome picture and same quality since it came out of the box. Highly recommended.0 -
The CX? That's the one I got but exchanged for the Sony 950....which I am probably going to exchange for the Samsung Q80.mca47 said:
I have a 65" LG OLED. Had it for 2-3 years now...I think...The Juggler said:I'm being told the LG's ULED technology is better than what Samsung uses? This is news to me as I've always been under the assumption Samsung is the best and my last three tvs have been Samsungs. My buddy from work, who's a real techy kind of guy, recommended that LG one and compared the picture of ULED's to the old school plasma's.
Anyone else have an LG OLED?
Best TV I've owned. Awesome picture and same quality since it came out of the box. Highly recommended.
Been a wild couple of weeks over here!www.myspace.com0 -
I'm curious to know what you think about the Q80. Ours is great. Very smooth and natural picture and the details are incredible. Color accuracy is also very good right out of the box.The Juggler said:
The CX? That's the one I got but exchanged for the Sony 950....which I am probably going to exchange for the Samsung Q80.mca47 said:
I have a 65" LG OLED. Had it for 2-3 years now...I think...The Juggler said:I'm being told the LG's ULED technology is better than what Samsung uses? This is news to me as I've always been under the assumption Samsung is the best and my last three tvs have been Samsungs. My buddy from work, who's a real techy kind of guy, recommended that LG one and compared the picture of ULED's to the old school plasma's.
Anyone else have an LG OLED?
Best TV I've owned. Awesome picture and same quality since it came out of the box. Highly recommended.
Been a wild couple of weeks over here!
The automatic picture settings can cause problems though. If you turn off the motion control and the adaptive brightness mode, it makes for much more stable movement.
"Movie Mode" with Brightness and Contrast cranked up is where it's at for lifelike images. Max out the Blur and Judder reduction and your golden......at least that's where I settled with mine. FWIW, my living room is pretty dark and I dialed the settings to reflect that. Also, most of what I watch is dramatic cinema. YMMV.If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
I'll let you know. It's being delivered tomorrow. loldudeman said:
I'm curious to know what you think about the Q80. Ours is great. Very smooth and natural picture and the details are incredible. Color accuracy is also very good right out of the box.The Juggler said:
The CX? That's the one I got but exchanged for the Sony 950....which I am probably going to exchange for the Samsung Q80.mca47 said:
I have a 65" LG OLED. Had it for 2-3 years now...I think...The Juggler said:I'm being told the LG's ULED technology is better than what Samsung uses? This is news to me as I've always been under the assumption Samsung is the best and my last three tvs have been Samsungs. My buddy from work, who's a real techy kind of guy, recommended that LG one and compared the picture of ULED's to the old school plasma's.
Anyone else have an LG OLED?
Best TV I've owned. Awesome picture and same quality since it came out of the box. Highly recommended.
Been a wild couple of weeks over here!
The automatic picture settings can cause problems though. If you turn off the motion control and the adaptive brightness mode, it makes for much more stable movement.
"Movie Mode" with Brightness and Contrast cranked up is where it's at for lifelike images. Max out the Blur and Judder reduction and your golden......at least that's where I settled with mine. FWIW, my living room is pretty dark and I dialed the settings to reflect that. Also, most of what I watch is dramatic cinema. YMMV.
I think my old Samsung is always on movie mode, now that you mentioned it. I was watching golf on it today in the store and it just so happened to be side by side with both the LG OLED and the Sony 950 and, yeah, the Samsung may not have had the most vivid colors but it did look great and more realistic, like you said. Reminded me of my old one!www.myspace.com0 -
That's awesome and exactly what I was looking for. I wanted to get as close as I could to the picture and performance of my old Samsung but in a bigger size. (My wife is laughing at me and the ridiculousness of this venture.)The Juggler said:
I'll let you know. It's being delivered tomorrow. loldudeman said:
I'm curious to know what you think about the Q80. Ours is great. Very smooth and natural picture and the details are incredible. Color accuracy is also very good right out of the box.The Juggler said:
The CX? That's the one I got but exchanged for the Sony 950....which I am probably going to exchange for the Samsung Q80.mca47 said:
I have a 65" LG OLED. Had it for 2-3 years now...I think...The Juggler said:I'm being told the LG's ULED technology is better than what Samsung uses? This is news to me as I've always been under the assumption Samsung is the best and my last three tvs have been Samsungs. My buddy from work, who's a real techy kind of guy, recommended that LG one and compared the picture of ULED's to the old school plasma's.
Anyone else have an LG OLED?
Best TV I've owned. Awesome picture and same quality since it came out of the box. Highly recommended.
Been a wild couple of weeks over here!
The automatic picture settings can cause problems though. If you turn off the motion control and the adaptive brightness mode, it makes for much more stable movement.
"Movie Mode" with Brightness and Contrast cranked up is where it's at for lifelike images. Max out the Blur and Judder reduction and your golden......at least that's where I settled with mine. FWIW, my living room is pretty dark and I dialed the settings to reflect that. Also, most of what I watch is dramatic cinema. YMMV.
I think my old Samsung is always on movie mode, now that you mentioned it. I was watching golf on it today in the store and it just so happened to be side by side with both the LG OLED and the Sony 950 and, yeah, the Samsung may not have had the most vivid colors but it did look great and more realistic, like you said. Reminded me of my old one!
The Q80T did not disappoint me even though it took a bit of experimentation to dial it in.
Happy new TV day!If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
Would have been the C8 or C9, which are brighter than the CX.The Juggler said:
The CX? That's the one I got but exchanged for the Sony 950....which I am probably going to exchange for the Samsung Q80.mca47 said:
I have a 65" LG OLED. Had it for 2-3 years now...I think...The Juggler said:I'm being told the LG's ULED technology is better than what Samsung uses? This is news to me as I've always been under the assumption Samsung is the best and my last three tvs have been Samsungs. My buddy from work, who's a real techy kind of guy, recommended that LG one and compared the picture of ULED's to the old school plasma's.
Anyone else have an LG OLED?
Best TV I've owned. Awesome picture and same quality since it came out of the box. Highly recommended.
Been a wild couple of weeks over here!0 -
Samsung released a firmware update for many of their models, Q80T included, that enable some more HDMI 2.1 features, fyi.dudeman said:
That's awesome and exactly what I was looking for. I wanted to get as close as I could to the picture and performance of my old Samsung but in a bigger size. (My wife is laughing at me and the ridiculousness of this venture.)The Juggler said:
I'll let you know. It's being delivered tomorrow. loldudeman said:
I'm curious to know what you think about the Q80. Ours is great. Very smooth and natural picture and the details are incredible. Color accuracy is also very good right out of the box.The Juggler said:
The CX? That's the one I got but exchanged for the Sony 950....which I am probably going to exchange for the Samsung Q80.mca47 said:
I have a 65" LG OLED. Had it for 2-3 years now...I think...The Juggler said:I'm being told the LG's ULED technology is better than what Samsung uses? This is news to me as I've always been under the assumption Samsung is the best and my last three tvs have been Samsungs. My buddy from work, who's a real techy kind of guy, recommended that LG one and compared the picture of ULED's to the old school plasma's.
Anyone else have an LG OLED?
Best TV I've owned. Awesome picture and same quality since it came out of the box. Highly recommended.
Been a wild couple of weeks over here!
The automatic picture settings can cause problems though. If you turn off the motion control and the adaptive brightness mode, it makes for much more stable movement.
"Movie Mode" with Brightness and Contrast cranked up is where it's at for lifelike images. Max out the Blur and Judder reduction and your golden......at least that's where I settled with mine. FWIW, my living room is pretty dark and I dialed the settings to reflect that. Also, most of what I watch is dramatic cinema. YMMV.
I think my old Samsung is always on movie mode, now that you mentioned it. I was watching golf on it today in the store and it just so happened to be side by side with both the LG OLED and the Sony 950 and, yeah, the Samsung may not have had the most vivid colors but it did look great and more realistic, like you said. Reminded me of my old one!
The Q80T did not disappoint me even though it took a bit of experimentation to dial it in.
Happy new TV day!0 -
Excellent. Thanks for the heads up!Rygar said:
Samsung released a firmware update for many of their models, Q80T included, that enable some more HDMI 2.1 features, fyi.dudeman said:
That's awesome and exactly what I was looking for. I wanted to get as close as I could to the picture and performance of my old Samsung but in a bigger size. (My wife is laughing at me and the ridiculousness of this venture.)The Juggler said:
I'll let you know. It's being delivered tomorrow. loldudeman said:
I'm curious to know what you think about the Q80. Ours is great. Very smooth and natural picture and the details are incredible. Color accuracy is also very good right out of the box.The Juggler said:
The CX? That's the one I got but exchanged for the Sony 950....which I am probably going to exchange for the Samsung Q80.mca47 said:
I have a 65" LG OLED. Had it for 2-3 years now...I think...The Juggler said:I'm being told the LG's ULED technology is better than what Samsung uses? This is news to me as I've always been under the assumption Samsung is the best and my last three tvs have been Samsungs. My buddy from work, who's a real techy kind of guy, recommended that LG one and compared the picture of ULED's to the old school plasma's.
Anyone else have an LG OLED?
Best TV I've owned. Awesome picture and same quality since it came out of the box. Highly recommended.
Been a wild couple of weeks over here!
The automatic picture settings can cause problems though. If you turn off the motion control and the adaptive brightness mode, it makes for much more stable movement.
"Movie Mode" with Brightness and Contrast cranked up is where it's at for lifelike images. Max out the Blur and Judder reduction and your golden......at least that's where I settled with mine. FWIW, my living room is pretty dark and I dialed the settings to reflect that. Also, most of what I watch is dramatic cinema. YMMV.
I think my old Samsung is always on movie mode, now that you mentioned it. I was watching golf on it today in the store and it just so happened to be side by side with both the LG OLED and the Sony 950 and, yeah, the Samsung may not have had the most vivid colors but it did look great and more realistic, like you said. Reminded me of my old one!
The Q80T did not disappoint me even though it took a bit of experimentation to dial it in.
Happy new TV day!If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
Did your new TV show up yet?The Juggler said:
I'll let you know. It's being delivered tomorrow. loldudeman said:
I'm curious to know what you think about the Q80. Ours is great. Very smooth and natural picture and the details are incredible. Color accuracy is also very good right out of the box.The Juggler said:
The CX? That's the one I got but exchanged for the Sony 950....which I am probably going to exchange for the Samsung Q80.mca47 said:
I have a 65" LG OLED. Had it for 2-3 years now...I think...The Juggler said:I'm being told the LG's ULED technology is better than what Samsung uses? This is news to me as I've always been under the assumption Samsung is the best and my last three tvs have been Samsungs. My buddy from work, who's a real techy kind of guy, recommended that LG one and compared the picture of ULED's to the old school plasma's.
Anyone else have an LG OLED?
Best TV I've owned. Awesome picture and same quality since it came out of the box. Highly recommended.
Been a wild couple of weeks over here!
The automatic picture settings can cause problems though. If you turn off the motion control and the adaptive brightness mode, it makes for much more stable movement.
"Movie Mode" with Brightness and Contrast cranked up is where it's at for lifelike images. Max out the Blur and Judder reduction and your golden......at least that's where I settled with mine. FWIW, my living room is pretty dark and I dialed the settings to reflect that. Also, most of what I watch is dramatic cinema. YMMV.
I think my old Samsung is always on movie mode, now that you mentioned it. I was watching golf on it today in the store and it just so happened to be side by side with both the LG OLED and the Sony 950 and, yeah, the Samsung may not have had the most vivid colors but it did look great and more realistic, like you said. Reminded me of my old one!If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
Yup. Got it on Friday. I really like it. Still playing around with the settings. Movie is the best, as you mentioned. That is what I have my old one set to as well.dudeman said:
Did your new TV show up yet?The Juggler said:
I'll let you know. It's being delivered tomorrow. loldudeman said:
I'm curious to know what you think about the Q80. Ours is great. Very smooth and natural picture and the details are incredible. Color accuracy is also very good right out of the box.The Juggler said:
The CX? That's the one I got but exchanged for the Sony 950....which I am probably going to exchange for the Samsung Q80.mca47 said:
I have a 65" LG OLED. Had it for 2-3 years now...I think...The Juggler said:I'm being told the LG's ULED technology is better than what Samsung uses? This is news to me as I've always been under the assumption Samsung is the best and my last three tvs have been Samsungs. My buddy from work, who's a real techy kind of guy, recommended that LG one and compared the picture of ULED's to the old school plasma's.
Anyone else have an LG OLED?
Best TV I've owned. Awesome picture and same quality since it came out of the box. Highly recommended.
Been a wild couple of weeks over here!
The automatic picture settings can cause problems though. If you turn off the motion control and the adaptive brightness mode, it makes for much more stable movement.
"Movie Mode" with Brightness and Contrast cranked up is where it's at for lifelike images. Max out the Blur and Judder reduction and your golden......at least that's where I settled with mine. FWIW, my living room is pretty dark and I dialed the settings to reflect that. Also, most of what I watch is dramatic cinema. YMMV.
I think my old Samsung is always on movie mode, now that you mentioned it. I was watching golf on it today in the store and it just so happened to be side by side with both the LG OLED and the Sony 950 and, yeah, the Samsung may not have had the most vivid colors but it did look great and more realistic, like you said. Reminded me of my old one!
So, regarding Judder and blur: you have both of those set to a 10 and the motion thing turned off, right? When I do that, it looks amazing for sports and movies but I do think I notice a bit of the soap opera effect when watching tv shows. It is also quite possible, I am losing my mind though. Or maybe I am just not used to such high quality video.
You said, movies, brightness/contrast all the way up, and judder/blur all the way to 10, right?www.myspace.com0 -
Yes, that's how mine is set. I turned off Adaptive Brightness too.
I don't have cable or any other television service so I can't say how that would look. I really only watch Blu-rays and sometimes I watch things on Netflix and Prime Video. No SOE for me from those sources.
It sounds like playing around with the Motion Control settings on yours might be worthwhile if you're seeing soap opera effect.
How it the ambient lighting in the room?Post edited by dudeman onIf hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
It's pretty dark. No issues there.dudeman said:Yes, that's how mine is set. I turned off Adaptive Brightness too.
I don't have cable or any other television service so I can't say how that would look. I really only watch Blu-rays and sometimes I watch things on Netflix and Prime Video. No SOE for me from those sources.
It sounds like playing around with the Motion Control settings on yours might be worthwhile if you're seeing soap opera effect.
How it the ambient lighting in the room?
Netflix was where I was noticing it last night. Watching Cobra Kai (season 1 seems way better than 2 thus far, imo).www.myspace.com0 -
Interesting. I haven't seen that show but I'll check it out and let you know if I have any issues with SOE.
Also, congrats on the new TV. I hope this one has what it takes for you.If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0
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