yes, yes, you all are ever so fraught over these policies of obama's, just as much so as when they were bush's...................so who do ya think you all will vote for in november? :roll:
i get it, 'i hate it and it's wrong buuuuuuuuuuuuuut.....i HAVE to vote for obama!'
A second term of more change you can choke on. Because one's just not enough :roll:
I talk of freedom
You talk of the flag
I talk of revolution
You'd much rather brag
And if the decibels of this disenchanting discourse
Continue to dampen the day
The coin flips again and again and again and again
As our sanity walks away
All this discussion
Though politically correct
Is dead beyond destruction
Though it leaves me quite erect
And if the final sunset rolls behind the Earth
And the clock is finally dead
I'll look at me, you'll look at you, and we'll cry alot
But this will be what we said...
This will be what we said:
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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I talk of freedom
You talk of the flag
I talk of revolution
You'd much rather brag
And if the decibels of this disenchanting discourse
Continue to dampen the day
The coin flips again and again and again and again
As our sanity walks away
All this discussion
Though politically correct
Is dead beyond destruction
Though it leaves me quite erect
And if the final sunset rolls behind the Earth
And the clock is finally dead
I'll look at me, you'll look at you, and we'll cry alot
But this will be what we said...
This will be what we said:
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Who wrote this? Title? Poem or song?
It reminds me of something the prof in the Human Services Department with whom I worked often said which is that the goal of counseling is to create action- that talking is fine but without the end result being doing there's little or no point.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Congress has done everything in its individual and collective power to be dismissive of President Obama. Problem is they have never offered up an original idea to counter any of his proposed policies. Instead they filabustered on the floor, would not allow legislation out of Committee, or outright veto. If those methods failed, they would refuse to fund them.
--Guantanamo Bay: This Order was subject to funding by Congress.
Two main reasons why Guantanamo Bay was not closed is a) media fear of terrorists attacking NY or other cities that conducted trials on U.S. mainland soil, and b) Congress refused to authorize the funding for the closure. President Obama had the initial support of Republicans until the Tea Party stepped in and scared them off.
The Hill, Washington, DC ^ | 2010-12-03 | Michael O'Brien
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 9:09:22 PM by rabscuttle385
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Thursday that he no longer favors closing the terrorist detention center maintained by the U.S. at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.
Graham, who'd previously sought to work with the Obama administration to close the prison, said there's "no way" to close the facility at this point.
--Yes, let’s talk about the fact that Congress attached language to government funding appropriations that further impact the civil rights of Americans rather initiating a separate legislative Bill.
Military Commission Act of 2006 – all you have to do is read the first 4 pages to understand why Congress put NDAA in the DoD budget. Because of the word alien – the government could not use the MCA 2006 against American citizens on American soil without involving civilian courts. Why, because the US Supreme Court in 2008 struck down the habeas corpus rule as a violation of the Constitution. But that was the only part that was struck down, not indefinite detention.
NDAA is nothing more than an elaborate amendment to MCA of 2006 that makes it easier for the Military to act domestically without local law enforcement or civilian court interference. It allows Armed Force personnel to make civilian arrests, to engage civilians in armed civil disturbances. NDAA basically erased the word alien as defined in the MCA of 2006 and shorten the arrest process.
--The use of drones, really, ok.
The death toll of US and coalition troops were small compared to the number of troops incapacitated by landmines. We knew when we initially sent our troops into Afghanistan that it was regarded as one of the three most heavily landmine countries in the world – in the fuking world and we sent our troops in there with inadequate training and equipment.
http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1051546.html
The Halo Trust -- the largest foreign charitable demining group operating in Afghanistan -- has budgeted $8 million and is fielding 2,000 deminers in the country this year.
Afghanistan is considered by mine experts to be one of the three most heavily mined countries in the world. The other two are Cambodia and Angola.
We used drones in Desert Storm both as an intelligence gathering tool and a delivery weapon. Hell, we’re using them in South America under the [War on Drugs] policy.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
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You talk of the flag
I talk of revolution
You'd much rather brag
And if the decibels of this disenchanting discourse
Continue to dampen the day
The coin flips again and again and again and again
As our sanity walks away
All this discussion
Though politically correct
Is dead beyond destruction
Though it leaves me quite erect
And if the final sunset rolls behind the Earth
And the clock is finally dead
I'll look at me, you'll look at you, and we'll cry alot
But this will be what we said...
This will be what we said:
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Who wrote this? Title? Poem or song?
It reminds me of something the prof in the Human Services Department with whom I worked often said which is that the goal of counseling is to create action- that talking is fine but without the end result being doing there's little or no point.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
--Guantanamo Bay: This Order was subject to funding by Congress.
Two main reasons why Guantanamo Bay was not closed is a) media fear of terrorists attacking NY or other cities that conducted trials on U.S. mainland soil, and b) Congress refused to authorize the funding for the closure. President Obama had the initial support of Republicans until the Tea Party stepped in and scared them off.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2637209/posts
The Hill, Washington, DC ^ | 2010-12-03 | Michael O'Brien
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 9:09:22 PM by rabscuttle385
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Thursday that he no longer favors closing the terrorist detention center maintained by the U.S. at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.
Graham, who'd previously sought to work with the Obama administration to close the prison, said there's "no way" to close the facility at this point.
--Yes, let’s talk about the fact that Congress attached language to government funding appropriations that further impact the civil rights of Americans rather initiating a separate legislative Bill.
Military Commission Act of 2006 – all you have to do is read the first 4 pages to understand why Congress put NDAA in the DoD budget. Because of the word alien – the government could not use the MCA 2006 against American citizens on American soil without involving civilian courts. Why, because the US Supreme Court in 2008 struck down the habeas corpus rule as a violation of the Constitution. But that was the only part that was struck down, not indefinite detention.
http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/ ... 09-366.pdf
NDAA is nothing more than an elaborate amendment to MCA of 2006 that makes it easier for the Military to act domestically without local law enforcement or civilian court interference. It allows Armed Force personnel to make civilian arrests, to engage civilians in armed civil disturbances. NDAA basically erased the word alien as defined in the MCA of 2006 and shorten the arrest process.
--The use of drones, really, ok.
The death toll of US and coalition troops were small compared to the number of troops incapacitated by landmines. We knew when we initially sent our troops into Afghanistan that it was regarded as one of the three most heavily landmine countries in the world – in the fuking world and we sent our troops in there with inadequate training and equipment.
http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1051546.html
The Halo Trust -- the largest foreign charitable demining group operating in Afghanistan -- has budgeted $8 million and is fielding 2,000 deminers in the country this year.
Afghanistan is considered by mine experts to be one of the three most heavily mined countries in the world. The other two are Cambodia and Angola.
We used drones in Desert Storm both as an intelligence gathering tool and a delivery weapon. Hell, we’re using them in South America under the [War on Drugs] policy.