Repulsive progressive hypocrisy

blueandwhite

Pepe Silvia wrote:

yes, yes, you all are ever so fraught over these policies of obama's, just as much so as when they were bush's...................so who do ya think you all will vote for in november? :roll:

i get it, 'i hate it and it's wrong buuuuuuuuuuuuuut.....i HAVE to vote for obama!'

This is what happens when you live in an established two-party system. Voting for Obama in 2012 doesn't necessarily mean that you support hus policy decisions. I wonder how many progressives will vote for Obama simply because they are afraid of the opposition. As a Canadian I already find Obama to be very conservative. The Republican candidates are far more extreme. Even if there was a moderate Republican candidate (Paul) who had real integrity, I would still wory that his values would be subverted by the extreme right-leaning members of the party.

In short; if Obama wins in November, it's just as likely that he was voted in because the moderates and left-leaning individuals in America are absolutely terrified of the alternative. I know I am.

Jeanwah

Another flaming hate article. Really Pepe, and I asked Godfather this the other day when he posted a hate/racist filled article: do you like reading hate content? What's your goal with posting it and what kind of responses are you looking for when you post this crap? It was a piece of trash that throws labels and points fingers and nothing else. Do we really need to divide ourselves all the time? I know you are angry with Obama, but I fail to see how a trash article putting down "the other side" and throwing in some hypocritical content SOLVES anything. Most of the political threads on here aiming at blaming the 'other side' are a huge waste of time in my opinion. This hate article does nothing but embark on more hatred. :evil:

Sorry for being like this, but I've had it with the need to flame each other due to political ideologies. There are not two sides to government, it is one system that throws up a scapegoat for everyone to hate and focus on while the system continues, year after year, to wreck our country, regardless what "side" is in charge. Until we recognize that WE are the ones being had here, nothing will ever change.

MayDay Malone

Jeanwah wrote:

Another flaming hate article. Really Pepe, and I asked Godfather this the other day when he posted a hate/racist filled article: do you like reading hate content? What's your goal with posting it and what kind of responses are you looking for when you post this crap? It was a piece of trash that throws labels and points fingers and nothing else. Do we really need to divide ourselves all the time? I know you are angry with Obama, but I fail to see how a trash article putting down "the other side" and throwing in some hypocritical content SOLVES anything. Most of the political threads on here aiming at blaming the 'other side' are a huge waste of time in my opinion. This hate article does nothing but embark on more hatred. :evil:

Sorry for being like this, but I've had it with the need to flame each other due to political ideologies. There are not two sides to government, it is one system that throws up a scapegoat for everyone to hate and focus on while the system continues, year after year, to wreck our country, regardless what "side" is in charge. Until we recognize that WE are the ones being had here, nothing will ever change.

Flaming hate article? HAHAHAHA.

What a joke.

Thanks for proving the article right. Godfather: racist? I reject your flamethrowing argument and submit that you are a shining example of the hypocrisy highlighted in the OPs original post, respectfully.

Jeanwah

MayDay Malone wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Another flaming hate article. Really Pepe, and I asked Godfather this the other day when he posted a hate/racist filled article: do you like reading hate content? What's your goal with posting it and what kind of responses are you looking for when you post this crap? It was a piece of trash that throws labels and points fingers and nothing else. Do we really need to divide ourselves all the time? I know you are angry with Obama, but I fail to see how a trash article putting down "the other side" and throwing in some hypocritical content SOLVES anything. Most of the political threads on here aiming at blaming the 'other side' are a huge waste of time in my opinion. This hate article does nothing but embark on more hatred. :evil:

Sorry for being like this, but I've had it with the need to flame each other due to political ideologies. There are not two sides to government, it is one system that throws up a scapegoat for everyone to hate and focus on while the system continues, year after year, to wreck our country, regardless what "side" is in charge. Until we recognize that WE are the ones being had here, nothing will ever change.

Flaming hate article? HAHAHAHA.

What a joke.

Thanks for proving the article right. Godfather: racist? I reject your flamethrowing argument and submit that you are a shining example of the hypocrisy highlighted in the OPs original post, respectfully.

You are just a happy victim. Good luck with that. And I didn't say Godfather is a racist.

inmytree

MayDay Malone wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

the article never says every single liberal feels this way. so stop yer whinin' and focus on it's point - what liberals were so vehemently against for 8 years many turned out to support those very things

i hear you all, no liberal supports the use of drones....except this poll says 83% of the country does. no liberal supports keeping gitmo open....just 70% of the country.

there is mass hypocrisy, instead of most even addressing the usual defense of 'i know i bitched about it for 8 years when it was a republican but now it's not that big a deal....he just needs more time (to stop signing things like the ndaa or to figure out he shouldn't appoint monsanto execs as food czar or pick jp morgan and citigroup execs as his chief of staff's)' i see a lot of crying martyrs.

and while a good bit of you may personally disagree with these policies i would bet most of you will still end up voting for obama in november, so as long as that is the case your 'outrage' is just empty bluster and yes, that is hypocritical to have been so against it for 8 years when it was the other guy and demanding of his supporters 'how can you support a guy that'd do this!?' but then support a guy doing exactly 'that'

The silence from the hardcore left on the Train is saying it all....

actually, I would say OP is part of the hardcore left...

I would be willing to bet that many lean to the left or are centrists...sadly, you won't be able to see that as you seem get a hard-on anytime someone posts something negative about O-bamma...

MayDay Malone

Jeanwah wrote:

MayDay Malone wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Another flaming hate article. Really Pepe, and I asked Godfather this the other day when he posted a hate/racist filled article: do you like reading hate content? What's your goal with posting it and what kind of responses are you looking for when you post this crap? It was a piece of trash that throws labels and points fingers and nothing else. Do we really need to divide ourselves all the time? I know you are angry with Obama, but I fail to see how a trash article putting down "the other side" and throwing in some hypocritical content SOLVES anything. Most of the political threads on here aiming at blaming the 'other side' are a huge waste of time in my opinion. This hate article does nothing but embark on more hatred. :evil:

Sorry for being like this, but I've had it with the need to flame each other due to political ideologies. There are not two sides to government, it is one system that throws up a scapegoat for everyone to hate and focus on while the system continues, year after year, to wreck our country, regardless what "side" is in charge. Until we recognize that WE are the ones being had here, nothing will ever change.

Flaming hate article? HAHAHAHA.

What a joke.

Thanks for proving the article right. Godfather: racist? I reject your flamethrowing argument and submit that you are a shining example of the hypocrisy highlighted in the OPs original post, respectfully.

You are just a happy victim. Good luck with that. And I didn't say Godfather is a racist.

Nothing happy about what Utopian-statists like yourself are doing to America.

And I'm not the victim... Gov't dependency is YOUR "weapon of change". Self-reliance is mine.

Good luck to you too, sweetie.

inmytree

MayDay Malone wrote:

Nothing happy about what Utopian-statists like yourself are doing to America.

And I'm not the victim... Gov't dependency is YOUR "weapon of change". Self-reliance is mine.

Good luck to you too, sweetie.

then quite whining about the gov't, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and carry on...

if you're truly about "self-reliance", whatever the gov't does should be of no concern to you...

MayDay Malone

inmytree wrote:

MayDay Malone wrote:

Nothing happy about what Utopian-statists like yourself are doing to America.

And I'm not the victim... Gov't dependency is YOUR "weapon of change". Self-reliance is mine.

Good luck to you too, sweetie.

then quite whining about the gov't, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and carry on...

if you're truly about "self-reliance", whatever the gov't does should be of no concern to you...

Respectfully, this is the dumbest statement I have ever heard on the Train.

To contemplate the lack of understanding behind such a statement, will cause a working brain to stop.

Think about it.... It is literally void of understanding.

"Why would I care what my Gov't is doing, if I am self-reliant?" Holy crap.

inmytree

MayDay Malone wrote:

inmytree wrote:

MayDay Malone wrote:

Nothing happy about what Utopian-statists like yourself are doing to America.

And I'm not the victim... Gov't dependency is YOUR "weapon of change". Self-reliance is mine.

Good luck to you too, sweetie.

then quite whining about the gov't, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and carry on...

if you're truly about "self-reliance", whatever the gov't does should be of no concern to you...

Respectfully, this is the dumbest statement I have ever heard on the Train.

To contemplate the lack of understanding behind such a statement, will cause a working brain to stop.

Think about it.... It is literally void of understanding.

"Why would I care what my Gov't is doing, if I am self-reliant?" Holy crap.

respectfully, I see that you're not the brightest bulb...no shocker there...

MayDay Malone

I am a charitable person. I would like to help you. But alas, I am here, and you are there.

carry on.

MookiesLaw

Pepe Silvia wrote:

yes, yes, you all are ever so fraught over these policies of obama's, just as much so as when they were bush's...................so who do ya think you all will vote for in november? :roll:

i get it, 'i hate it and it's wrong buuuuuuuuuuuuuut.....i HAVE to vote for obama!'

A second term of more change you can choke on. Because one's just not enough :roll:

Pepe Silvia

I talk of freedom
You talk of the flag
I talk of revolution
You'd much rather brag
And if the decibels of this disenchanting discourse
Continue to dampen the day
The coin flips again and again and again and again
As our sanity walks away

All this discussion
Though politically correct
Is dead beyond destruction
Though it leaves me quite erect
And if the final sunset rolls behind the Earth
And the clock is finally dead
I'll look at me, you'll look at you, and we'll cry alot
But this will be what we said...
This will be what we said:

Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby

brianlux

Pepe Silvia wrote:

I talk of freedom
You talk of the flag
I talk of revolution
You'd much rather brag
And if the decibels of this disenchanting discourse
Continue to dampen the day
The coin flips again and again and again and again
As our sanity walks away

All this discussion
Though politically correct
Is dead beyond destruction
Though it leaves me quite erect
And if the final sunset rolls behind the Earth
And the clock is finally dead
I'll look at me, you'll look at you, and we'll cry alot
But this will be what we said...
This will be what we said:

Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby
Look where all this talking got us, baby

Who wrote this? Title? Poem or song?

It reminds me of something the prof in the Human Services Department with whom I worked often said which is that the goal of counseling is to create action- that talking is fine but without the end result being doing there's little or no point.

puremagic

Congress has done everything in its individual and collective power to be dismissive of President Obama. Problem is they have never offered up an original idea to counter any of his proposed policies. Instead they filabustered on the floor, would not allow legislation out of Committee, or outright veto. If those methods failed, they would refuse to fund them.

--Guantanamo Bay: This Order was subject to funding by Congress.

Two main reasons why Guantanamo Bay was not closed is a) media fear of terrorists attacking NY or other cities that conducted trials on U.S. mainland soil, and b) Congress refused to authorize the funding for the closure. President Obama had the initial support of Republicans until the Tea Party stepped in and scared them off.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2637209/posts

The Hill, Washington, DC ^ | 2010-12-03 | Michael O'Brien
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 9:09:22 PM by rabscuttle385

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Thursday that he no longer favors closing the terrorist detention center maintained by the U.S. at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.
Graham, who'd previously sought to work with the Obama administration to close the prison, said there's "no way" to close the facility at this point.

--Yes, let’s talk about the fact that Congress attached language to government funding appropriations that further impact the civil rights of Americans rather initiating a separate legislative Bill.

Military Commission Act of 2006 – all you have to do is read the first 4 pages to understand why Congress put NDAA in the DoD budget. Because of the word alien – the government could not use the MCA 2006 against American citizens on American soil without involving civilian courts. Why, because the US Supreme Court in 2008 struck down the habeas corpus rule as a violation of the Constitution. But that was the only part that was struck down, not indefinite detention.

http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/ ... 09-366.pdf

NDAA is nothing more than an elaborate amendment to MCA of 2006 that makes it easier for the Military to act domestically without local law enforcement or civilian court interference. It allows Armed Force personnel to make civilian arrests, to engage civilians in armed civil disturbances. NDAA basically erased the word alien as defined in the MCA of 2006 and shorten the arrest process.


--The use of drones, really, ok.
The death toll of US and coalition troops were small compared to the number of troops incapacitated by landmines. We knew when we initially sent our troops into Afghanistan that it was regarded as one of the three most heavily landmine countries in the world – in the fuking world and we sent our troops in there with inadequate training and equipment.

http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1051546.html
The Halo Trust -- the largest foreign charitable demining group operating in Afghanistan -- has budgeted $8 million and is fielding 2,000 deminers in the country this year.

Afghanistan is considered by mine experts to be one of the three most heavily mined countries in the world. The other two are Cambodia and Angola.

We used drones in Desert Storm both as an intelligence gathering tool and a delivery weapon. Hell, we’re using them in South America under the [War on Drugs] policy.