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DriftingByTheStorm

non answer:

MotoDC

SweetChildofMine wrote:

We can take the physics/scientific route if you want to know if there is a heaven or hell. don't get me started.

Maybe it's in one of the not-well-understood other dimensions predicted by modern quantum theory. Just sayin'.

Side note, the adamant belief that there is no god can sound almost as dogmatic as the adamant belief that there is one.

edit: and if there's no heaven or hell, how do I have this handy devil's advocate thingy at my disposal??! :twisted:

SweetChildofMine

MotoDC wrote:

SweetChildofMine wrote:

We can take the physics/scientific route if you want to know if there is a heaven or hell. don't get me started.

Maybe it's in one of the not-well-understood other dimensions predicted by modern quantum theory. Just sayin'.

Side note, the adamant belief that there is no god can sound almost as dogmatic as the adamant belief that there is one.

edit: and if there's no heaven or hell, how do I have this handy devil's advocate thingy at my disposal??! :twisted:

LOL! Awesome.

Just sayin. Quantum Physics makes me smile err... gives me a headache. Actually love it. I wish I had someone to talk to about the nerdy topic for hours.

SweetChildofMine

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

non answer:

Dang, bad snakes quantum leverage.



BAD! BAD! Bad snake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E4a4CdX6R8

Here we have the man who met himself.

MotoDC

SweetChildofMine wrote:

MotoDC wrote:

SweetChildofMine wrote:

We can take the physics/scientific route if you want to know if there is a heaven or hell. don't get me started.

Maybe it's in one of the not-well-understood other dimensions predicted by modern quantum theory. Just sayin'.

Side note, the adamant belief that there is no god can sound almost as dogmatic as the adamant belief that there is one.

edit: and if there's no heaven or hell, how do I have this handy devil's advocate thingy at my disposal??! :twisted:

LOL! Awesome.

Just sayin. Quantum Physics makes me smile err... gives me a headache. Actually love it. I wish I had someone to talk to about the nerdy topic for hours.

Mostly I wish I had the mental capacity to talk about the nerdy topic meaningfully for hours. Seriously you almost wonder if Hawking is off in a corner giggling at all of us trying to understand a bunch of shit he made up on a good acid trip.

whygohome

SweetChildofMine wrote:

God can manifest or reincarnate as whatever. man or woman... or as both. Blah blah... I once met a man with a shirt on that said "Jesus is a Black Man" I stopped to talk to him and said," You are right, He can manifest as he wants. In a way you understand." He responded, "Exactly."

Jesus and all the angles are white! How dare you?!?!?!?!?!

:evil:

whygohome

Carey wrote:

whygohome wrote:

Carey wrote:

I attend a United Methodist church, one that is known for being on the liberal side of things, and recently we had a sermon that touches on this. My pastor shared his belief that there is one God -- and different religions have different covenants with God. For example, when he is asked by otcher Christians if "Jews are going to hell" he always answes with a resounding NO. (Many Christians will tell you otherwise). In his opinion, Jews had their own covenant with God long before Christians did, and what kind of God would revoke that? Basically, Jews have their own "deal" going with God, as do Christians. I assume he feels the same about other religions, but he did not elaborate that far.

This is a point of view that feels good to me. I can't imagine religion to be so black and white that only one has it right and all else are wrong.

Just my two cents

Although I am an agnostic, I feel like I would dig your pastor. He seems like one of those pastors that you could talk about music with over a beer.....or I may be totally off. Anyway, he seems to have a good perspective on things.

What you say makes me think of the idea that all religions worship the same god, but they all have different names for him/her ("God" is a creator, so why can't he be a woman--idea for a new thread). Allah, God, Yahweh, Buddha.......it's all semantics, right? And, the division/fighting comes down to not which interpretation is right, and not which reality. or something like that. i would have to mull over that idea to articulate it better. I view religion as an interpretation of the unknown/unknowable. In the end, I feel all the division/hatred/fighting is simply over who has the "correct" interpretation, which, quite ironically, is impossible to know.

Haha, yah, I think he could go for that. He looks a little like he could ride a Harley, I know he used to be a heavy smoker....and he was raised as a "pastor's kid" himself. I get the impression that he rebelled, figured out who he was, and then came back to the church.
He takes the stance that a lot of religion is exactly what you said -- the interpretation of the unknowable. One sermon even questioned the existence of what many believe to be true about heaven and hell. He's a very interesting dude.

Sounds like a sermon I could sit in on, and not one run by an evangelical with his hands out...........
And, despite my agnosticism, it's good to see members of the church embracing the 21st century, rather than being stuck in the Puritan era.

whygohome

redrock wrote:

whygohome wrote:

What you say makes me think of the idea that all religions worship the same god, but they all have different names for him/her ("God" is a creator, so why can't he be a woman--idea for a new thread). Allah, God, Yahweh, Buddha.......it's all semantics, right?

But this is already assuming monotheism and thus 'rejecting' polytheistic religions/worships (Buddhism being one of them...). Also, are we assuming that god is automatically a 'creator' god?

Since I don't believe in "God" I wasn't making assumptions, but rather using the mainstream, "accepted" terms.
You are absolutely correct though, in the sense that all religions are assumptive in nature.........right?