What is the difference between.......
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Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Greek Mythology, Roman Mythology, Hinduism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Egyptian Mythology, Druidism, Scientology?
This is a serious question and not a knock on religion. How can one group declare themselves to be "right," when denouncing the faith of another? How can someone defiantly proclaim that there religion is the source for all truth in the universe when religion is simply based upon what our parents are (and what their parents are, and so on and so on) and what spot on the planet we were born on?
This is a serious question and not a knock on religion. How can one group declare themselves to be "right," when denouncing the faith of another? How can someone defiantly proclaim that there religion is the source for all truth in the universe when religion is simply based upon what our parents are (and what their parents are, and so on and so on) and what spot on the planet we were born on?
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Hallelujiah. I've been saying this all my life or for at least 18 months now.
You are absolutely right.....we are all wrong.
Any religion that says ...Can't get to heaven unless you ..... believe in my God?
Really?
Would the "real God" actually exclude a portion/percentage of the world at all?
We're all just stupid and have an I'm #1 mentality.
Gentiles, non-baptised, infidels--that would be us all. Ooops.
Isn't it amazing how we all discredit our own relgion by our own stupidity?
To be specific, it might have several parts to it. For example, one could ask: "How did we arrive to this point in history, a point where people have brought OLD ideas forward without modifying them because of the addition of new information?" The new information (other people's religious beliefs) is in our faces now because the entire world communicates in the modern age. Earlier in time, groups were isolated. They only had to fight with their closest neighbors about ideas.... :P Kill 'em or subdue 'em and their talk. (!) j/k
But really," How does the human race MOVE FORWARD in this age when faced with the diverse spiritual explanations?" If one believes in equality, one has to give everyone a fair place at the discussion table. Instead of a war, some kind of world-meeting to discuss what might be extracted from each religion. Would that ever be possible?
Who knows?!!!! :geek:
Apparently, the ideas people hold are different enough that they feel the need to argue about them.
This is a point of view that feels good to me. I can't imagine religion to be so black and white that only one has it right and all else are wrong.
Just my two cents
it is quite amazing. We also discredit our religions with our hatred towards others. It's exhausting.
I don't know WHEN this type of delusional thinking will end, but I do know HOW: WAR. So sad, and so pathetic.
This is a damn good question. It seems that our progress is stifled by our division. The sick reality though, is that what divides us preaches love and acceptance. This is truly fucked up.
Although I am an agnostic, I feel like I would dig your pastor. He seems like one of those pastors that you could talk about music with over a beer.....or I may be totally off. Anyway, he seems to have a good perspective on things.
What you say makes me think of the idea that all religions worship the same god, but they all have different names for him/her ("God" is a creator, so why can't he be a woman--idea for a new thread). Allah, God, Yahweh, Buddha.......it's all semantics, right? And, the division/fighting comes down to not which interpretation is right, and not which reality. or something like that. i would have to mull over that idea to articulate it better. I view religion as an interpretation of the unknown/unknowable. In the end, I feel all the division/hatred/fighting is simply over who has the "correct" interpretation, which, quite ironically, is impossible to know.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam
All have the same god
Just different prophets
Judaism had Moses teachings
Christianity had Christ
And Islam had Mohamed
Different opinions on the same god
But these three would the most fought over in history
Over 1 god
Silly really
That's a really nice idea but where did he get it from? Is it just a guess? Is there any reason to think this is a correct perspective?
"With our thoughts we make the world"
is there any reason to think that any specific teaching is the "correct" one, I'm not religious at all but my understanding has always been that it's about faith and belief not proof
My favorite book on religion is The Lost Gospel of the Earth, A Call for Renewing Nature, Spirit, and Politics by Tom Hayden. It it, Hayden searches the facets of all of the major religions as they relate to the planet on which we and everything else lives.
Yes, why all the hatred revolving around religion? The hatred, the war, and all the dead bodies piled up in mounds. The emphasis of religion should be love.
"You can be a righteous rocker or a holy roller
You can be most anything.
You can be a child of the slum or a skid row bum,
You can be an earthly king.
But without love, you ain't nothing, without love."
-Larry Norman
"With the living, let what is living love."
-Eddie Vedder
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
But this is already assuming monotheism and thus 'rejecting' polytheistic religions/worships (Buddhism being one of them...). Also, are we assuming that god is automatically a 'creator' god?
Haha, yah, I think he could go for that. He looks a little like he could ride a Harley, I know he used to be a heavy smoker....and he was raised as a "pastor's kid" himself. I get the impression that he rebelled, figured out who he was, and then came back to the church.
He takes the stance that a lot of religion is exactly what you said -- the interpretation of the unknowable. One sermon even questioned the existence of what many believe to be true about heaven and hell. He's a very interesting dude.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
This sermon was part of series that tried to discuss several different issues using theology without just accepting what the bible tells us. It avoided taking the bible literally and instead looked at things that we know and can be sure of.
I have a copy of this sermon, please PM me if you would like me to send it to your email.
Also, I have the other one I mentioned about whether or not heaven and hell exist.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"The Cow" is based on the concept of omnipresence of the Divine and the presence of a soul in all creatures. Similar to my tale, "Jesus is a Black man" story.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Side note, the adamant belief that there is no god can sound almost as dogmatic as the adamant belief that there is one.
edit: and if there's no heaven or hell, how do I have this handy devil's advocate thingy at my disposal??! :twisted:
Just sayin. Quantum Physics makes me smile err... gives me a headache.
BAD! BAD! Bad snake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E4a4CdX6R8
Here we have the man who met himself.
Jesus and all the angles are white! How dare you?!?!?!?!?!
:evil:
Sounds like a sermon I could sit in on, and not one run by an evangelical with his hands out...........
And, despite my agnosticism, it's good to see members of the church embracing the 21st century, rather than being stuck in the Puritan era.
Since I don't believe in "God" I wasn't making assumptions, but rather using the mainstream, "accepted" terms.
You are absolutely correct though, in the sense that all religions are assumptive in nature.........right?