Boycott Caterpillar!

Byrnzie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... C6C-cAc240


Caterpillar bulldozers have come to symbolise foreign involvement in Israel's occupation. Their products are used to break international law.

Bulldozers are the iron fist of the Israeli army, used to destroy Palestinian homes, uproot orchards and build illegal settlements. But it was the death of Rachel Corrie that brought to international attention a campaign to hold the company to account. Now a law suit has been launched accusing Caterpillar of human rights violations.

Prince Of Dorkness

Next time I buy a bulldozer I'll get a um...

You know I don't know if I'll ever need a Bulldozer but if I ever do, I'll buy the other kind.

In all seriousness, I think it's rather horrifying that companies can get away with so many atrocities in other countries and never have to answer for it

unsung

Is Caterpillar operating the machinery?

Byrnzie

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Next time I buy a bulldozer I'll get a um...

You know I don't know if I'll ever need a Bulldozer but if I ever do, I'll buy the other kind.

In all seriousness, I think it's rather horrifying that companies can get away with so many atrocities in other countries and never have to answer for it

They also sell shoes/boots.

Byrnzie

unsung wrote:

Is Caterpillar operating the machinery?

Is that the question that should be asked?


Do Lockheed Martin fly the planes that drop bombs on women and children?

Did the U.S makers of white phosphorous shells drop them on Palestinian residential areas, safe-houses, and hospitals during the massacre in Gaza in 2008-2009?

GC31608

The CAT footwear line is actually licensed to and manufactured by Wolverine World Wide which also make Bates, Merrell, Harley Davidson, Hush Puppies and a slew of other footwear lines. But yeah I agree with the boycotting of any and all CAT products.

Cosmo

Byrnzie wrote:

They also sell shoes/boots.

...
Check!
Got a pair of Danner Ft. Lewis' and a pair of Belleville Desert USMCs.
I don't think I need another pair of shoes for the rest of my life.

brianlux

peacefrompaul

Byrnzie wrote:

unsung wrote:

Is Caterpillar operating the machinery?

Is that the question that should be asked?


Do Lockheed Martin fly the planes that drop bombs on women and children?

Did the U.S makers of white phosphorous shells drop them on Palestinian residential areas, safe-houses, and hospitals during the massacre in Gaza in 2008-2009?

Theses companies make tools of war because they are paid to do so and they're damn good of it. Maybe we should end the war and leave Palestine alone. I don't know about boycotting Caterpillar.

cincybearcat

Byrnzie wrote:

unsung wrote:

Is Caterpillar operating the machinery?

Is that the question that should be asked?


Do Lockheed Martin fly the planes that drop bombs on women and children?

Did the U.S makers of white phosphorous shells drop them on Palestinian residential areas, safe-houses, and hospitals during the massacre in Gaza in 2008-2009?

Well, let's look at it objectively. Those other companies are manufacturing for the intent of war, right?

Caterpillar is making bulldozers, almost every use is not war. Are they selling directly to the Israeli military?

Byrnzie

cincybearcat wrote:

Caterpillar is making bulldozers, almost every use is not war. Are they selling directly to the Israeli military?

Almost every use is not war? Where did you come up with that? They are used primarily for illegal house demolitions in the occupied territories. And, yes, they are sold directly to the Israeli military. Though even if they weren't sold directly to the Israeli military their acquisition and use by the Israeli military would still breach international law which prohibits the sale of arms or any other type of machinery that can be used against innocent civilians.

unsung

I think you really have too much time on your hands, and like Cincy said Cat doesn't make them for this reason.

Should the boot supplier of the Israeli military be boycotted? What if they wear Hanes brand underwear? That Michael Jordan must condone this, after all he is a Hanes spokesman.

MookiesLaw

The bulldozers are sold directly to the Israeli government and they in turn use these vehicles to destroy Palestinian homes, roads and olive groves. They are also used to build the illegal seperation wall which has been condemned by the International Court of Justice.

Now they maintain they have neither the legal right nor the means to police individual use of that equipment which is true to some extent but what about their moral right? Caterpillar provides the Israeli military with these bulldozers, knowing full well what they will be used for in Palestine. The cold facts are that Caterpillar knowingly sold machines used to violate human rights and continues to do so.

gimmesometruth27

MookiesLaw wrote:

The bulldozers are sold directly to the Israeli government and they in turn use these vehicles to destroy Palestinian homes, roads and olive groves. They are also used to build the illegal seperation wall which has been condemned by the International Court of Justice.

Now they maintain they have neither the legal right nor the means to police individual use of that equipment which is true to some extent but what about their moral right? Caterpillar provides the Israeli military with these bulldozers, knowing full well what they will be used for in Palestine. The cold facts are that Caterpillar knowingly sold machines used to violate human rights and continues to do so.

i completely agree.

and as such, i am glad that i burnt the CAT hat i had as a kid...

brianlux

Byrnzie wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Caterpillar is making bulldozers, almost every use is not war. Are they selling directly to the Israeli military?

Almost every use is not war? Where did you come up with that? They are used primarily for illegal house demolitions in the occupied territories. And, yes, they are sold directly to the Israeli military. Though even if they weren't sold directly to the Israeli military their acquisition and use by the Israeli military would still breach international law which prohibits the sale of arms or any other type of machinery that can be used against innocent civilians.

Not to mention innocent natural places. We're all part of that war, all of us. Good reasons not to support war and good reasons to learn to conserve, use less, destroy less.

Drowned Out

cincybearcat wrote:

Well, let's look at it objectively. Those other companies are manufacturing for the intent of war, right?

Caterpillar is making bulldozers, almost every use is not war. Are they selling directly to the Israeli military?

These aren't bulldozers you see on jobsites around town...


Boycott, Divest, Sanction...
http://www.cjpme.org/TabbedEnhancedItem ... 1000000366

Boycott Campaigns in Progress:

CJPME has prepared tools and resources for individuals wishing to participate in CJPME’s “consumer boycott” activities. The focus of the resources and tools below is to help individual consumers add their voice – whether addressing company execs, local store managers, or others – to those who refuse to patronize establishments which support the Israeli government’s unlawful and unethical practices.

Ahava Labs Ltd.
Canadian Tire
Caterpillar
COSTCO
H&M
Home Depot
IBM
IKEA
Indigos
Mountain Equipment Co-op
Pizza Hut
Provincial Liquor Boards
Toys ‘R Us
Western Union


Cultural Boycott Strategy:

CJPME is tracking performers who have performed, or intend to perform in Israel. CJPME encourages its adherents to add their voice to those who call such performances to stop, until Israel respects international law, and respects the human rights of Palestinians.


Artists who cancelled shows in Israel, or spoke out in support of the cultural boycott of Israel
Encourage them!


Natacha Atlas
Andy McKee
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Roger Waters
Pete Seeger
Thomas Quasthoff
Vanessa Paradis
Tindersticks
Mike Leigh
Gil Scott Heron
Massive Attack
Santana
The Pixies
Devendra Banhart
Elvis Costello
Leftfield
Gorillaz Sound System
Klaxons
Snoop Dogg



Artists who recently performed in Israel or who are planning to perform in Israel soon
Hold them accountable!

Paul Anka
Riverdance
Wikimania
Bon Jovi
Coldplay
Design Exchange
The Fall
Jeff Beck
Scorpions
Ozzy Osbourne
Public Image Ltd.
Thirty Seconds to Mars
LCD Soundsystem
Diana Krall
Suzanne Vega
Missy Elliot
Rod Stewart
Placebo
Joan Armatrading
Elton John
Rihanna

SweetChildofMine

A bit off topic however drawn to this thread by the fact ... I was just going to add that Catapillar demanded money from the state of Illinois "or else" it was pulling its factory and jobs from the state in another thread.

F@#! Why go to a bank with a gun? Just hold up your local state or federal government hostage and demand money.

F@#! these people.

Byrnzie

unsung wrote:

Should the boot supplier of the Israeli military be boycotted? What if they wear Hanes brand underwear? That Michael Jordan must condone this, after all he is a Hanes spokesman.

Boots and underwear don't knock down peoples houses and kill people. The bulldozers that CAT supplies to the Israeli's are not normal bulldozers, as the Youtube piece above points out - did you bother to watch it? They are armoured bulldozers designed for the purpose of destroying homes in the occupied territories. The destruction of Palestinian homes in the occupied territories is illegal under international law.

SweetChildofMine

Im all over Boycott Ahava... DIRT THEIVES!

Byrnzie

Drowned Out wrote:

Artists who recently performed in Israel or who are planning to perform in Israel soon
Hold them accountable!

Paul Anka
Riverdance
Wikimania
Bon Jovi
Coldplay
Design Exchange
The Fall
Jeff Beck
Scorpions
Ozzy Osbourne
Public Image Ltd.
Thirty Seconds to Mars
LCD Soundsystem
Diana Krall
Suzanne Vega
Missy Elliot
Rod Stewart
Placebo
Joan Armatrading
Elton John
Rihanna

You can add Morrissey to that list too.

THE LOOK

Wow....really? Good luck with that! :shock: