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F Me In The Brain

Jack del Rio is a guy with great takes on things.
He should work for the Browns!

What a dope he is.  I'm embarrassed for him.

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Browns gonna Brown
Of course he did it.  No way this many women are making shit up.

What's the crime?   The grand jury failed to indict him.  Propositioning for sex? Is that illegal?  Is that civil suit worthy? 

You can choose to believe what you want - I choose to believe the likelihood that this guy isn't a giant bag of shit is very small given what has been reported.
A grand jury failing to indict a celebrity does not mean they didn't do anything wrong.  
Yes, the supposed actions are illegal.  As they should be.  
I don't like the Browns.  I used to like him.  Now I don't like him and this confirms what I already think about the leadership of the Browns.  
All my opinions.  Yes, I feel strongly about them.  

Perhaps I am wrong.  

Perhaps you are right and we should believe the one guy vs the 20+ women accusing him.

Perhaps the team is fine to give the largest (by far) guaranteed contract ever to someone in this sort of position. 

And every girl has the same attorney. 

The bar to indictment by a grand jury is very low,, as in sure you know.  The defense can't cross,  call witnesses or counter.  

He might be and probably is a bag of shit.  That doesn't mean he committed a crime or should lose his livelihood.  

You'll also notice that the Times called it "troubling behavior" and other publications call it"sexual misconduct".  These are not crimes and not legal terms.  Words matter. 

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

Jack del Rio is a guy with great takes on things.
He should work for the Browns!

What a dope he is.  I'm embarrassed for him.

Yeah! Who are other guys I hate that I can link to the Browns? Ben? Kobe?

The Juggler

Gonna take a wild guess and say Jack Del Rio gets his news from Fox. 

F Me In The Brain

The "not a crime" is bs stuff his shitbag attorney is peddling to help public sentiment re:his client.
The Times references two issues, since you reference them:


The grabbing of a woman's vagina is a crime, even in Texas:

F Me In The Brain

The Juggler said:

Gonna take a wild guess and say Jack Del Rio gets his news from Fox. 

I hate that this fool has a soapbox.
I preferred to like him as the linebacker at SC and NFL and even as Randy Johnsons catcher playing ball in college.
Instead he opens his yap again and proves what a dolt he is.

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

The "not a crime" is bs stuff his shitbag attorney is peddling to help public sentiment re:his client.
The Times references two issues, since you reference them:


The grabbing of a woman's vagina is a crime, even in Texas:

1. You're quoting a penal code that makes oral sex "deviant" and has no carve out for consent.  Under this 1973 code, any woman providing oral (or vice versa) is guilty of deviant sexual behavior and it's a crime.  You'll have to spare me the eye roll.  

2. The two women who accused him of actual assault were the two cases brought before the Grand Jury, if I'm not mistaken.  They declined to indict. 

3. Sexual misconduct and coercive behavior..  Nothing prevents anyone from suing anyone else.  I feel pretty good that many men here on the boards probably engaged in 'coercive' behavior against women in their lives.  Maybe more than once.  It's not criminal.  Is it bad?  Sure.  Should he be sued?  Sure.  Should he lose his livelihood?  Nope.  

I read a carve out today (can't recall where) and the accuser said that she was not forced into sex but had sex with him twice because she didn't know how to say "no".  She later blocked him.  She's part of the suit.  That makes me roll my eyes a bit too. 

F Me In The Brain

We have different opinions as to what grabbing someone by the vagina should end up in.
Losing your job?  Going to jail?
Hell
Yes.

Already stated I believe the women.  I get that you don't, we can disagree.

I give zero shits if anyone here has done the same thing, gabbing a woman by the vagina....whipping it out and jacking off in front of them.  If so, f them.  They are also shitbags.

In America, the admission of this type of sexual assault makes one qualified for election as President.

Quite the world we live in.

Wobbie

I’m completely on F’me’s side. Deshaun SHOULD lose his “livelihood”…..especially when it’s $230M to throw a fucking football. the browns should be ashamed. anyone else accused of all this shit would be losing their “livelihoods”, whatever that livelihood might be.

too many privileged people in this world think they can do whatever the fuck they want.

Indifference71

Hey Deshaun, just hire some high class call girls and have them massage you.  What a fucking idiot.

F Me In The Brain

Wobbie said:

I’m completely on F’me’s side. Deshaun SHOULD lose his “livelihood”…..especially when it’s $230M to throw a fucking football. the browns should be ashamed. anyone else accused of all this shit would be losing their “livelihoods”, whatever that livelihood might be.

too many privileged people in this world think they can do whatever the fuck they want.

Well, they sort of can. 

Interested to see how this plays out.

mrussel1

Wobbie said:

I’m completely on F’me’s side. Deshaun SHOULD lose his “livelihood”…..especially when it’s $230M to throw a fucking football. the browns should be ashamed. anyone else accused of all this shit would be losing their “livelihoods”, whatever that livelihood might be.

too many privileged people in this world think they can do whatever the fuck they want.

I appreciate the significant virtue signaling. 

pjhawks

How the hell do the Rams have all these high priced players and still under the cap?  Every year my Eagles have to restructure deals to get under cap but the Rams have like 6 guys making huge money. 

mrussel1

pjhawks said:

How the hell do the Rams have all these high priced players and still under the cap?  Every year my Eagles have to restructure deals to get under cap but the Rams have like 6 guys making huge money. 

Good question.  These are large deals

Ten Backspaced Riot Actors

mrussel1 said:

pjhawks said:

How the hell do the Rams have all these high priced players and still under the cap?  Every year my Eagles have to restructure deals to get under cap but the Rams have like 6 guys making huge money. 

Good question.  These are large deals

Maybe because the high priced players that you are referring to playing for the Rams are more willing to work with the organization towards a contract that can work for the overall team if they perceive that a Super Bowl is possible

mrussel1

Ten Backspaced Riot Actors said:

mrussel1 said:

pjhawks said:

How the hell do the Rams have all these high priced players and still under the cap?  Every year my Eagles have to restructure deals to get under cap but the Rams have like 6 guys making huge money. 

Good question.  These are large deals

Maybe because the high priced players that you are referring to playing for the Rams are more willing to work with the organization towards a contract that can work for the overall team if they perceive that a Super Bowl is possible

Is that the case with them? Are they going to be in salary cap hell in 2 years instead?

F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

Wobbie said:

I’m completely on F’me’s side. Deshaun SHOULD lose his “livelihood”…..especially when it’s $230M to throw a fucking football. the browns should be ashamed. anyone else accused of all this shit would be losing their “livelihoods”, whatever that livelihood might be.

too many privileged people in this world think they can do whatever the fuck they want.

I appreciate the significant virtue signaling. 

Another silly term people love to use when talking smack on people these days.
As if discussing things like this doesn't makes the positions one holds clear enough....

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

We have different opinions as to what grabbing someone by the vagina should end up in.
Losing your job?  Going to jail?
Hell
Yes.

Already stated I believe the women.  I get that you don't, we can disagree.

I give zero shits if anyone here has done the same thing, gabbing a woman by the vagina....whipping it out and jacking off in front of them.  If so, f them.  They are also shitbags.

In America, the admission of this type of sexual assault makes one qualified for election as President.

Quite the world we live in.

We have different opinions as to what grabbing someone by the vagina should end up in.
Losing your job?  Going to jail?

Becoming President...

F Me In The Brain

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

We have different opinions as to what grabbing someone by the vagina should end up in.
Losing your job?  Going to jail?
Hell
Yes.

Already stated I believe the women.  I get that you don't, we can disagree.

I give zero shits if anyone here has done the same thing, gabbing a woman by the vagina....whipping it out and jacking off in front of them.  If so, f them.  They are also shitbags.

In America, the admission of this type of sexual assault makes one qualified for election as President.

Quite the world we live in.

We have different opinions as to what grabbing someone by the vagina should end up in.
Losing your job?  Going to jail?

Becoming President...

Exactly.  Such a messed up fact.

mrussel1

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

We have different opinions as to what grabbing someone by the vagina should end up in.
Losing your job?  Going to jail?
Hell
Yes.

Already stated I believe the women.  I get that you don't, we can disagree.

I give zero shits if anyone here has done the same thing, gabbing a woman by the vagina....whipping it out and jacking off in front of them.  If so, f them.  They are also shitbags.

In America, the admission of this type of sexual assault makes one qualified for election as President.

Quite the world we live in.

We have different opinions as to what grabbing someone by the vagina should end up in.
Losing your job?  Going to jail?

Becoming President...

People get to vote.  Being a felon is not a disqualifier for president, neither is being a sexual predator.  That's the beauty of America.. your opinion matters exactly the same as the other 300MM people that get to vote.  No veto.