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  • Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  
  • I don’t know the details of the lawsuit, or the odds of its success, I just know it’s happening according to what I’ve seen. 
  • Jumb0
    Jumb0 Posts: 910
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    edited November 2021
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah so why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  
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  • Jumb0
    Jumb0 Posts: 910
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah do why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  

    Owners protecting owners. Shift the focus to a racist coach and everyone stops talking about a team with an offensive name and an investigation into a horrible workplace. 
  • mrussel1
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    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah do why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  

    Owners protecting owners. Shift the focus to a racist coach and everyone stops talking about a team with an offensive name and an investigation into a horrible workplace. 
    You think this was good for Mark Davis?  This blew up his season,  his team and he likely made a huge payout while having to find and hire a new coach.  You're arguing that they are somehow protecting Snyder by hammering Davis.  And how did this protect the Skins or Bruce Allen?  The investigation continues. 
  • Jumb0
    Jumb0 Posts: 910
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah do why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  

    Owners protecting owners. Shift the focus to a racist coach and everyone stops talking about a team with an offensive name and an investigation into a horrible workplace. 
    You think this was good for Mark Davis?  This blew up his season,  his team and he likely made a huge payout while having to find and hire a new coach.  You're arguing that they are somehow protecting Snyder by hammering Davis.  And how did this protect the Skins or Bruce Allen?  The investigation continues. 

    You asked what incentive they would have for leaking the emails. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah do why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  

    Owners protecting owners. Shift the focus to a racist coach and everyone stops talking about a team with an offensive name and an investigation into a horrible workplace. 
    You think this was good for Mark Davis?  This blew up his season,  his team and he likely made a huge payout while having to find and hire a new coach.  You're arguing that they are somehow protecting Snyder by hammering Davis.  And how did this protect the Skins or Bruce Allen?  The investigation continues. 

    You asked what incentive they would have for leaking the emails. 
    Well true, I'm just saying it seems tenuous.  I don't know who leaked them.  It just doesn't seem rational for the NFL to do it.  
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah so why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  
    He bad mouthed dicktater Roger in one of them, incentive enough.
    Its hard to believe that out of 650,000+ emails only 3 from John Gruden got leaked by sheer coincidence...someone had it out for the guy.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah so why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  
    He bad mouthed dicktater Roger in one of them, incentive enough.
    Its hard to believe that out of 650,000+ emails only 3 from John Gruden got leaked by sheer coincidence...someone had it out for the guy.
    Someone,  yes.  Agreed.  But he has to prune it was the NFL.

    Gruden is an idiot though.  He deserved to be fired. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah so why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  
    He bad mouthed dicktater Roger in one of them, incentive enough.
    Its hard to believe that out of 650,000+ emails only 3 from John Gruden got leaked by sheer coincidence...someone had it out for the guy.
    Someone,  yes.  Agreed.  But he has to prune it was the NFL.

    Gruden is an idiot though.  He deserved to be fired. 
    Both things can be true: 

    Gruden’s a moron & had to go once those emails came to light. He also got selectively screwed by whomever leaked the emails.

    It could be a tough case to prove, but the guy has a grudge & deep pockets. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,532
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah so why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  
    He bad mouthed dicktater Roger in one of them, incentive enough.
    Its hard to believe that out of 650,000+ emails only 3 from John Gruden got leaked by sheer coincidence...someone had it out for the guy.
    Someone,  yes.  Agreed.  But he has to prune it was the NFL.

    Gruden is an idiot though.  He deserved to be fired. 
    Both things can be true: 

    Gruden’s a moron & had to go once those emails came to light. He also got selectively screwed by whomever leaked the emails.

    It could be a tough case to prove, but the guy has a grudge & deep pockets. 

    possible it was a black lesbian investigator/lawyer/reviewer going through them 
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  • mrussel1
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    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah so why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  
    He bad mouthed dicktater Roger in one of them, incentive enough.
    Its hard to believe that out of 650,000+ emails only 3 from John Gruden got leaked by sheer coincidence...someone had it out for the guy.
    Someone,  yes.  Agreed.  But he has to prune it was the NFL.

    Gruden is an idiot though.  He deserved to be fired. 
    Both things can be true: 

    Gruden’s a moron & had to go once those emails came to light. He also got selectively screwed by whomever leaked the emails.

    It could be a tough case to prove, but the guy has a grudge & deep pockets. 

    possible it was a black lesbian investigator/lawyer/reviewer going through them 
    Probably a transgender and the person sneaked into the wrong bathroom to steal the emails, while humming songs about CRT.  
  • pjhawks
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    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah so why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  
    He bad mouthed dicktater Roger in one of them, incentive enough.
    Its hard to believe that out of 650,000+ emails only 3 from John Gruden got leaked by sheer coincidence...someone had it out for the guy.
    Someone,  yes.  Agreed.  But he has to prune it was the NFL.

    Gruden is an idiot though.  He deserved to be fired. 
    Both things can be true: 

    Gruden’s a moron & had to go once those emails came to light. He also got selectively screwed by whomever leaked the emails.

    It could be a tough case to prove, but the guy has a grudge & deep pockets. 
    Gruden is gonna get a big settlement out of this though. The NFL has to settle.  No way they can let all those emails out in any depositions or trial,  
  • Wobbie
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    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah so why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  
    He bad mouthed dicktater Roger in one of them, incentive enough.
    Its hard to believe that out of 650,000+ emails only 3 from John Gruden got leaked by sheer coincidence...someone had it out for the guy.
    Someone,  yes.  Agreed.  But he has to prune it was the NFL.

    Gruden is an idiot though.  He deserved to be fired. 
    Both things can be true: 

    Gruden’s a moron & had to go once those emails came to light. He also got selectively screwed by whomever leaked the emails.

    It could be a tough case to prove, but the guy has a grudge & deep pockets. 
    Gruden is gonna get a big settlement out of this though. The NFL has to settle.  No way they can let all those emails out in any depositions or trial,  

    you may have a point…
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  • pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah so why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  
    He bad mouthed dicktater Roger in one of them, incentive enough.
    Its hard to believe that out of 650,000+ emails only 3 from John Gruden got leaked by sheer coincidence...someone had it out for the guy.
    Someone,  yes.  Agreed.  But he has to prune it was the NFL.

    Gruden is an idiot though.  He deserved to be fired. 
    Both things can be true: 

    Gruden’s a moron & had to go once those emails came to light. He also got selectively screwed by whomever leaked the emails.

    It could be a tough case to prove, but the guy has a grudge & deep pockets. 
    Gruden is gonna get a big settlement out of this though. The NFL has to settle.  No way they can let all those emails out in any depositions or trial,  
    The settlement is going to have to be huge, he already has money. 

    I have zero predictions but am very interested to see how it plays out. I would love if this got to discovery, but doubt it will. Like you said, the NFL can’t let that happen. 
  • Indifference71
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    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    Gruden’s suing the NFL. 

    I would too. 
    For what cause?  He resigned.  If he's suing because the emails were leaked then he will have to prove that the NFL did it.. not the Redskins, not anyone else.. but an NFL official.  And he will have to prove it was done to harm him.  

    Saying the NFL selectively leaked out his emails to force him out and damage his reputation. 
    Yeah so why would he NFL have the incentive to do that?  
    He bad mouthed dicktater Roger in one of them, incentive enough.
    Its hard to believe that out of 650,000+ emails only 3 from John Gruden got leaked by sheer coincidence...someone had it out for the guy.
    Yep.  This is exactly what happened.  They were going to keep leaking emails from him until he resigned or got fired.  Please let this case get to discovery!  Those 650,000 emails would prob take down several owners and coaches....
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