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F Me In The Brain

I am hoping, for him, that it was "just" an evening's worth of bad decisions.  Glad to see (at least so far) that he is not a woman beater.

Horrible decisions.   When the hell will people stop driving while destroyed???  [Separate topic, but nobody really / truly / cares, which is why there is no real enforcement effort to curtail driving under the influence.  It is a shame & a blight on our society of morons.] *edit*  obviously, lots of people care.  Not enough people in power care to try and truly stop drunk driving, imo.

Will look for some of the details --- I don't like his bravado on the field but he does seem like a good dude and he certainly is a leader with the players and a well respected one. 

F Me In The Brain

Saw some items from the 911 call.
Uggh.  Sounds like he is really lucky not to have hurt anyone with his vehicle, and then not to have hurt himself.
Guy must be in a bad spot.  He's gonna have to pay for this, what a shit way to close out a really stellar career

Glad nobody was harmed.

The Juggler

tempo_n_groove said:

Sherman is a smart and articulate guy.  Hope he finds help.  This does not seem like him at all.

Agreed.

Merkin Baller

"I think perception is reality.... [your] past is what [your] past is. [Your] present is what [your] present is." 

-Richard Sherman

Jearlpam0925

This dispatcher is garbage:

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1415423008139845639?s=20

And this Defector article is on-point: "This, it feels important to note, is what is meant by calls to defund the police—not that anarchy be allowed to reign or that people in danger go unaided, but that some of the roles currently served by police be replaced by those better trained and better equipped to deal with the situation while avoiding violence. Crisis support teams, staffed by psychiatric health professionals, are one suggested solution, but for now they only exist in small local pilot programs, and there’s no consensus, even among the idea’s staunchest supporters, on whether they should act alongside or instead of law enforcement and paramedics. But that Ashley Moss, in the middle of one of the worst moments of her life, should also have to worry that her husband is large and black and have no option but to call police anyway, knowing how many times that’s resulted in unnecessary death, is a tragedy in itself. It’s scary to think how easily this could have gone far worse than it did—and depressing that officers taking Sherman down with an attack dog represents one of the better-case scenarios."

mickeyrat

 

Arrests Richard Sherman NFL Seattle Only on AP Gun politics

Father-in-law says he pepper-sprayed NFL's Richard Sherman

By GENE JOHNSON

Today

SEATTLE (AP) — Richard Sherman’s father-in-law armed himself with a handgun and fired pepper-spray at the NFL cornerback to protect his family as Sherman tried to bust in the door of his in-laws’ home, according to a police statement obtained by The Associated Press.

Sherman was arrested early Wednesday after police said he crashed his car in a construction zone and then tried to break into his in-laws’ home in the Seattle suburb of Redmond.

Sherman remained in jail Thursday and was expected to make an initial court appearance in the afternoon. It was not clear if he had an attorney who might speak on his behalf.

According to the police report, which had not been made public, Sherman’s father-in-law, Raymond Moss, told investigators that the former Seattle Seahawks and San Francisco 49ers star partially broke in the door by repeatedly ramming it with his shoulder. Sherman called out, “Come through, Ray!" in a hostile and threatening tone, Moss said.

“The family began to yell in fear,” Moss told police. “I used pepper spray on Sherman's face through the partially opened door as he was still banging and attempting to gain entry. I told him to stop. I armed myself with my handgun at this time fearing for the safety of myself and my family.”

NFL star Richard Sherman was arrested Wednesday after authorities said he crashed his SUV in a suburban Seattle construction zone, tried to break into his in-laws’ home, and fought with officers who used a police dog to apprehend him (July 14)

Sherman’s wife, Ashley Moss, called 911 late Tuesday to report that he was being belligerent, had threatened to kill himself and was driving away after drinking two bottles of hard alcohol.

“At this time, we’re going to make no statements, except he didn’t harm anybody,” she told The Seattle Times on Wednesday. “My kids were not harmed in the incident. He’s a good person and this is not his character. We’re doing all right, just trying to get him out. I want people to know no one was injured.”

In February, King County prosecutors and the sheriff obtained an “extreme risk protection order” for Sherman, which barred him from having guns after a judge determined he posed a danger to himself or others. Details of the case were sealed, and it was not immediately clear if any weapons had been seized from him.

Sherman was booked into jail Wednesday in Seattle on suspicion of resisting arrest, malicious mischief and residential burglary. The Washington State Patrol said it also would recommend charges of driving under the influence and hit-and-run.

The burglary allegation is a felony that includes a domestic violence component because it was the home of relatives. Sherman did not enter the home, strike or try to hit any family members, authorities said.

Shortly before 1:30 a.m. Wednesday, the Washington State Patrol received a 911 call from a construction crew working along a freeway east of Seattle. The caller said an apparently intoxicated driver had entered the closed construction zone. As the vehicle left the area, it struck a barricade, causing significant damage on the driver’s side, Patrol Capt. Ron Mead told reporters.

The vehicle soon became completely disabled, Mead said.

Just before 2 a.m., Redmond police received a 911 call from the in-laws’ home, reporting that Sherman was trying to break in, Police Chief Darrell Lowe said.

Officers and state troopers responded and tried to calm the situation by developing a rapport with the football star, authorities said.

It initially seemed to work, but Sherman’s demeanor changed when the officers told him he was under arrest, Lowe said. He began walking away rapidly and fought as police tried to take him into custody, and a K-9 officer released the dog to subdue him.

Sherman got minor cuts to his lower leg and was treated at a hospital before being taken to jail. At his first court hearing, a judge will determine if there is probable cause to believe he committed a crime.

Sherman, 33, became a Seattle sports legend during seven seasons with Seahawks. The cornerback was a star in their run to a 2014 Super Bowl victory, making a game-saving play to deflect a pass in the NFC Championship Game against the 49ers.

He left the Seahawks after the 2017 season and played three seasons with San Francisco. He is now a free agent.

igotid88

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

JeBurkhardt

igotid88 said:

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

Cue the "I am never watching them again" reactions.

tempo_n_groove

igotid88 said:

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

JeBurkhardt said:

igotid88 said:

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

Cue the "I am never watching them again" reactions.

Just drop the anthems all together if it makes so many people upset.

pjhawks

igotid88 said:

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

Not something I care about because I don't go to the games and just turn on TV when the game starts.   That being said, is there anything the NFL wouldn't exploit for their own gain?  

JeBurkhardt

pjhawks said:

igotid88 said:

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

Not something I care about because I don't go to the games and just turn on TV when the game starts.   That being said, is there anything the NFL wouldn't exploit for their own gain?  

Absolutely nothing from what I have been able to observe.

Jason P

Perhaps the Pit of Unhappiness, AKA A Moving Train needs a separate NFL thread and we can keep this one for discussing football.  Unless the NFL decides it wants to be a political sports organization.  Personally, I’m done with politics.  It’s a fool’s errand to get engrossed in politics when only 10% of Americans approved of politicians across the board … and that was years before we were socially divided by social media.

 

The biggest change for me is that I can no longer tolerate the constant commercials and advertising in sports … having a year off made me realize how much time is spent and wasted watching commercials.  And time is really the most important commodity we have.  More than money, for sure.

mrussel1

JeBurkhardt said:

pjhawks said:

igotid88 said:

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

Not something I care about because I don't go to the games and just turn on TV when the game starts.   That being said, is there anything the NFL wouldn't exploit for their own gain?  

Absolutely nothing from what I have been able to observe.

I think this is a player driven initiative.  The owners would love to stay out of this, but the players are all in. 

Meltdown99

tempo_n_groove said:

igotid88 said:

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

JeBurkhardt said:

igotid88 said:

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

Cue the "I am never watching them again" reactions.

Just drop the anthems all together if it makes so many people upset.

I’ve been saying drop the anthem at all events…it’s just a fucking song, hymn or whatever…and it a dumb song…all it is meant to do is indoctrinate and create patriotism…

JeBurkhardt

mrussel1 said:

JeBurkhardt said:

pjhawks said:

igotid88 said:

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

Not something I care about because I don't go to the games and just turn on TV when the game starts.   That being said, is there anything the NFL wouldn't exploit for their own gain?  

Absolutely nothing from what I have been able to observe.

I think this is a player driven initiative.  The owners would love to stay out of this, but the players are all in. 

That won't stop the league from trying to find a way to monetize it or use to try to make themselves look better.

mrussel1

JeBurkhardt said:

mrussel1 said:

JeBurkhardt said:

pjhawks said:

igotid88 said:

"Lift Every Voice And Sing" the Black National Anthem is coming back to the NFL

Not something I care about because I don't go to the games and just turn on TV when the game starts.   That being said, is there anything the NFL wouldn't exploit for their own gain?  

Absolutely nothing from what I have been able to observe.

I think this is a player driven initiative.  The owners would love to stay out of this, but the players are all in. 

That won't stop the league from trying to find a way to monetize it or use to try to make themselves look better.

Well  yeah... lemons, lemonade, etc. In general, they definitely want no part of culture issues.

MayDay10

I'm sure if there was a button the nfl could press that would do away with the whole national anthem thing without angering the cletuses,  they would have smashed it on ago

F Me In The Brain

MayDay10 said:

I'm sure if there was a button the nfl could press that would do away with the whole national anthem thing without angering the cletuses,  they would have smashed it on ago

Agree.  Not worth the money they took to highlight the anthem in the first place.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

MayDay10 said:

I'm sure if there was a button the nfl could press that would do away with the whole national anthem thing without angering the cletuses,  they would have smashed it on ago

Agree.  Not worth the money they took to highlight the anthem in the first place.

They got flack for that too and returned the money.

mickeyrat

F Me In The Brain said:

MayDay10 said:

I'm sure if there was a button the nfl could press that would do away with the whole national anthem thing without angering the cletuses,  they would have smashed it on ago

Agree.  Not worth the money they took to highlight the anthem in the first place.

no. paid to highlight local service members. then let it be infered it was done as a team driven thing.....