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F Me In The Brain

Yeah before this happened I would have loved (loved!) to have Watson on the team, although I didn't like the idea of what it might take to get him.
Now, he is ☢️ until this shit is ironed out.  I don't see how he comes out of any of this looking like he isn't a freak who is way out of line with women, at best, and at worst a rapist, or somewhere in between.

JeBurkhardt

F Me In The Brain said:

Yeah before this happened I would have loved (loved!) to have Watson on the team, although I didn't like the idea of what it might take to get him.
Now, he is ☢️ until this shit is ironed out.  I don't see how he comes out of any of this looking like he isn't a freak who is way out of line with women, at best, and at worst a rapist, or somewhere in between.

I am a big Jimmy G fan and think if he stays healthy, they have to be considered a contender in the NFC. However, based on his injury history it is a capital I and a capital F.

F Me In The Brain

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

JeBurkhardt

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

The other throws that could be picks but are dropped will make your heart stop too. I am a big fan of when in doubt, chuck it to a cheerleader and move onto the next play. 

F Me In The Brain

JeBurkhardt said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

The other throws that could be picks but are dropped will make your heart stop too. I am a big fan of when in doubt, chuck it to a cheerleader and move onto the next play. 

We are in agreement on most things 49ers, it would seem!

JeBurkhardt

F Me In The Brain said:

JeBurkhardt said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

The other throws that could be picks but are dropped will make your heart stop too. I am a big fan of when in doubt, chuck it to a cheerleader and move onto the next play. 

We are in agreement on most things 49ers, it would seem!

Seems so. I grew up in the Bay Area and the first memory I have of watching them was Jim Plunkett being the QB. I would have been still been in elementary school at the time. Yes, I am old.

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

In the most broad sense of the statement, perhaps.  I can see that. 

However, there are top level QBs that can still make things work with pressure. 

JimmyG is not one of those, he panics and throws into coverage.  (I'm also not talking about people hitting him and pulling on him -- more, just the pocket being tight/collapsing.) 

With blocking there are still many QBs that make idiotic reads, under or over throw receivers with regularity.  QBs that throw inexplicable picks. JimmyG would not be one of those guys.   He would be rock solid, money man, if that was the case more of the time. 

Glorified KC

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

Yeah that's one cliche that I always laugh at when an "analyst" says, he's a different quarterback when he has pressure in his face.  No shit...I can vouch for Patrick Mahomes, see Super Bowl 55.

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

In the most broad sense of the statement, perhaps.  I can see that. 

However, there are top level QBs that can still make things work with pressure. 

JimmyG is not one of those, he panics and throws into coverage.  (I'm also not talking about people hitting him and pulling on him -- more, just the pocket being tight/collapsing.) 

With blocking there are still many QBs that make idiotic reads, under or over throw receivers with regularity.  QBs that throw inexplicable picks. JimmyG would not be one of those guys.   He would be rock solid, money man, if that was the case more of the time. 

I agree some are better than others,  but no one is good without a good line. 

F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

In the most broad sense of the statement, perhaps.  I can see that. 

However, there are top level QBs that can still make things work with pressure. 

JimmyG is not one of those, he panics and throws into coverage.  (I'm also not talking about people hitting him and pulling on him -- more, just the pocket being tight/collapsing.) 

With blocking there are still many QBs that make idiotic reads, under or over throw receivers with regularity.  QBs that throw inexplicable picks. JimmyG would not be one of those guys.   He would be rock solid, money man, if that was the case more of the time. 

I agree some are better than others,  but no one is good without a good line. 

Tom Brady and Big Ben both played well behind many poor OLs.  
You are nitpicking an opinion I shared on JimmyG, who I've watched pretty much every game he has played for the Niners.  
Have you?

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

In the most broad sense of the statement, perhaps.  I can see that. 

However, there are top level QBs that can still make things work with pressure. 

JimmyG is not one of those, he panics and throws into coverage.  (I'm also not talking about people hitting him and pulling on him -- more, just the pocket being tight/collapsing.) 

With blocking there are still many QBs that make idiotic reads, under or over throw receivers with regularity.  QBs that throw inexplicable picks. JimmyG would not be one of those guys.   He would be rock solid, money man, if that was the case more of the time. 

I agree some are better than others,  but no one is good without a good line. 

Tom Brady and Big Ben both played well behind many poor OLs.  
You are nitpicking an opinion I shared on JimmyG, who I've watched pretty much every game he has played for the Niners.  
Have you?

I'm not nitpicking your analysis of Jimmy G.  I have no opinion of him.  I know Baker looked like shit when our line was shit, but this past year we had one of the best lines in football and suddenly he is the second coming of Bernie Kosar.  

F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

When pressured he throws picks.  

Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

In the most broad sense of the statement, perhaps.  I can see that. 

However, there are top level QBs that can still make things work with pressure. 

JimmyG is not one of those, he panics and throws into coverage.  (I'm also not talking about people hitting him and pulling on him -- more, just the pocket being tight/collapsing.) 

With blocking there are still many QBs that make idiotic reads, under or over throw receivers with regularity.  QBs that throw inexplicable picks. JimmyG would not be one of those guys.   He would be rock solid, money man, if that was the case more of the time. 

I agree some are better than others,  but no one is good without a good line. 

Tom Brady and Big Ben both played well behind many poor OLs.  
You are nitpicking an opinion I shared on JimmyG, who I've watched pretty much every game he has played for the Niners.  
Have you?

I'm not nitpicking your analysis of Jimmy G.  I have no opinion of him.  I know Baker looked like shit when our line was shit, but this past year we had one of the best lines in football and suddenly he is the second coming of Bernie Kosar.  

OK.  I stand behind my opinion.

I don't know much about Baker, except that I dislike his commercials and he cannot outrun cops when he is hammered, like most of us.

The Juggler

Regarding the Watson stuff....I guess I am not following very closely, but why would these women not go to the police first?

mickeyrat

The Juggler said:

Regarding the Watson stuff....I guess I am not following very closely, but why would these women not go to the police first?

$$$$$$

Poncier

49ers just gave a shit ton to the Dolphins to move from 12 to 3, obviously targeting a QB.
Belichick's master plan to get Jimmy G back is proceeding just as he has foreseen.

Merkin Baller

Poncier said:

49ers just gave a shit ton to the Dolphins to move from 12 to 3, obviously targeting a QB.
Belichick's master plan to get Jimmy G back is proceeding just as he has foreseen.

  

Poncier

And now Miami flips #12 and a 2022 first rounder (plus a late round pick swap) to Philly for #6.
Someone in Miami knows what they are doing.

Ledbetterman10

Poncier said:

And now Miami flips #12 and a 2022 first rounder (plus a late round pick swap) to Philly for #6.
Someone in Miami knows what they are doing.

Well it's about Goddamn time. 

JeBurkhardt

The 49ers draft just got really interesting! There is no way they moved up to 3 to pick anyone but Jimmy's replacement. Even if they keep him another year, his future is with another team.