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  • Wobbie said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's a breakdown of the current starting QBs and where they graduated from.  If you count Hurts as a starter, OU has the most starting QBs right now.  Outside of that Louisville and Cal are the only other schools with more than 1.
    • Bills - Allen, Wyoming
    • Dolphins - Tua, Alabama or Fitzmagic, Harvard
    • Pats - Cam, Auburn
    • Jets - Darnold, USC
    • Ravens - Lamar, Louisville
    • Bengals - Burrow, LSU
    • Browns - Baker, OU
    • Steelers - Big Ben, Miami OH
    • Texans - Watson, Clemson
    • Colts - Rivers, NC State
    • Jags - Minshew, Wash State
    • Titans - Tannehill, Texas A&M
    • Broncos - Lock, Mizzou
    • Chiefs - Mahomes, Texas Tech
    • Raiders - Carr, Fresno State
    • Chargers - Herbert, Oregon
    • Cowboys - Dak, Mississippi State
    • Giants - Jones, Duke
    • Eagles - Wentz, NDSU or Hurts, OU
    • WFT - Smith, Utah
    • Bears - Mitch, UNC
    • Packers - Rodgers, Cal
    • Lions - Stafford, Georgia
    • Vikes - Cousins, Michigan State
    • Falcons - Ryan, Boston College
    • Panthers - Bridgewater, Louisville
    • Saints - Brees, Purdue
    • Bucs - Brady, Michigan
    • Cards - Murray, OU
    • Rams - Goff, Cal
    • 49ers - Jimmy G, Eastern Illinois
    • Seahawks - Wilson, NC State/Wisconsin
    This continues to make my point.  Even more so, Rodgers and Goff came from two different coaching staffs.  So other than playing at Berkley, there's nothing in common.  I believe the same is the case for Louisville.  Hurts is barely a starter, and definitely not "good".  So you have Oklahoma, that's it.  And they have had their share of busts quarterbacks too.

    I think we get that.  The other side is that you are not looking at the other point -- which is not that OSU has not produced a good starter in the league now...it is that it never has.
    Thus, people will scoff at an OSU QB being drafted up top.

    Nothing awful about that - it is an understandable reaction.

    @Wobbie gives me an unending stream of shit about USC QBs. 
    I like it.
    He has 12 favorite teams so arguing football with him is fun.  ;)
    hey, fuckwad...I have 5...THEosu, ohio u., utah, wyoming, cowboys and kinda green bay.

    also, whoever’s playing bama, ND, NE, michigan, seabags, BYU and/or the ravens.

    Hahahaha.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,676
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's a breakdown of the current starting QBs and where they graduated from.  If you count Hurts as a starter, OU has the most starting QBs right now.  Outside of that Louisville and Cal are the only other schools with more than 1.
    • Bills - Allen, Wyoming
    • Dolphins - Tua, Alabama or Fitzmagic, Harvard
    • Pats - Cam, Auburn
    • Jets - Darnold, USC
    • Ravens - Lamar, Louisville
    • Bengals - Burrow, LSU
    • Browns - Baker, OU
    • Steelers - Big Ben, Miami OH
    • Texans - Watson, Clemson
    • Colts - Rivers, NC State
    • Jags - Minshew, Wash State
    • Titans - Tannehill, Texas A&M
    • Broncos - Lock, Mizzou
    • Chiefs - Mahomes, Texas Tech
    • Raiders - Carr, Fresno State
    • Chargers - Herbert, Oregon
    • Cowboys - Dak, Mississippi State
    • Giants - Jones, Duke
    • Eagles - Wentz, NDSU or Hurts, OU
    • WFT - Smith, Utah
    • Bears - Mitch, UNC
    • Packers - Rodgers, Cal
    • Lions - Stafford, Georgia
    • Vikes - Cousins, Michigan State
    • Falcons - Ryan, Boston College
    • Panthers - Bridgewater, Louisville
    • Saints - Brees, Purdue
    • Bucs - Brady, Michigan
    • Cards - Murray, OU
    • Rams - Goff, Cal
    • 49ers - Jimmy G, Eastern Illinois
    • Seahawks - Wilson, NC State/Wisconsin
    This continues to make my point.  Even more so, Rodgers and Goff came from two different coaching staffs.  So other than playing at Berkley, there's nothing in common.  I believe the same is the case for Louisville.  Hurts is barely a starter, and definitely not "good".  So you have Oklahoma, that's it.  And they have had their share of busts quarterbacks too.

    I think we get that.  The other side is that you are not looking at the other point -- which is not that OSU has not produced a good starter in the league now...it is that it never has.
    Thus, people will scoff at an OSU QB being drafted up top.

    Nothing awful about that - it is an understandable reaction.

    @Wobbie gives me an unending stream of shit about USC QBs. 
    I like it.
    He has 12 favorite teams so arguing football with him is fun.  ;)
    But the point has no merit.  Is Wyoming suddenly QBU because Allen looks to be having a good career?  Will five stars drop OSU from their top 5 and replace it with Wyoming?  No of course not.  Jones, Haskins, Troy Smith and Tomczak are bad because they went to Ohio State, so Fields will be bad.  Then naturally the next Wyoming QB will be good.  

    If one side of argument is true, then the other side of the equation must be true as well.  

    Never vs. at least 1 from so many other schools.

    If you don't get it, you don't get it.  I think it is obvious, but clearly that is the way I am seeing it.


    I don't get the premise.  Justin Fields won't be good because he went to Ohio State.  That's honestly a stupid assessment.  You want to say "there's never been a good Buckeye QB in the NFL".. I'll agree with that.  That wasn't the premise. 
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    GO PACK GO!

    Bills, too.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • I cannot stand the Packers.  
    However, I like them more than I like the Bradys.
    Pack win.

    Rooting for Bills but I do like Andy and Patty Ma.  
    Will be rooting for the AFC representative in the SB, for sure.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Championship Sunday! 

    The question remains....does your Juggler break his dry January streak today or does he plow through for one more week? 
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  • If you set out to do it for a month, keep at it!
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  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Great games today..Who do you bet against? 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    If you set out to do it for a month, keep at it!
    Yeah....Championship Sunday though. Fuck
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  • If you set out to do it for a month, keep at it!
    Yeah....Championship Sunday though. Fuck




    Slay the demon some other way.
    Eat something you would never eat.
    Do push-ups for every score.
    Some other obvious things come to mind which are perhaps not for all ages websites.  ;)

    Plan for Super Bowl Sunday.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    If you set out to do it for a month, keep at it!
    Yeah....Championship Sunday though. 

    Plan for Super Bowl Sunday.
    championship sunday > super bowl sunday.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,676
    Wobbie said:
    If you set out to do it for a month, keep at it!
    Yeah....Championship Sunday though. 

    Plan for Super Bowl Sunday.
    championship sunday > super bowl sunday.
    Agreed.  And divisional weekend is at least equal or better.  Last week is the highlight to me. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Yeah today is definitely better than two weeks from now
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,066
    Hoping for Buffalo/Green Bay in the Super Bowl
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • erebuserebus Posts: 566
    C’mon man, what is Evans wearing on his hands, suction cup gloves? Those cannot be legal lol
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    LaFleur kicking field goal was terrible. Brady 10 Supet Bowls is incredible
  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,659
    lol
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,992
    brady. the luckiest player in the nfl
    I miss igotid88
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,454
    Unbefuckinglievable
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Maybe not a system QB lol
  • Yeah, I think Brady is a total turd but the dude is a hell of a QB.  I've never argued that, as much as I dislike him.
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  • Just read that Brady has 17 playoff wins since turning 35. Montana is second all-time in career playoff wins with 16. Insane. 
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,066
    FUCK! Go AFC!
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    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • Hey atleast Aaron still got the Rodgers rate on his car insurance
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  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,251
    Hey atleast Aaron still got the Rodgers rate on his car insurance
    There IS no Rodgers rate!
  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Rodgers rate is you pay me a ton of money to do some ads....
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    :sick:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
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    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,693
    Love Brady.  Happy for him.  Incredible to start a Super Bowl in 3 different decades. 
  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    10 Super bowls played in...thats up there with 56 game hitting streak..never to be repeated
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672
    CHIEEEEEEFS!!

    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
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