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Jason P

Bummer, man ... Total bummer ...

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Ledbetterman10 said:

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Excessive and unnecessary. I'm a bills fan and I don't think a suspension was warranted.

Now who wanted to bet the pats will still make the super bowl this season? Because I'm willing to take your money...

Their Super Bowl odds will probably go up a bit in the coming days so that might be a pretty good bet. I mean, really, they'll go 2-2 without him if the suspension ends up being 4 games. But ya know what? They started 2-2 last year and went on to win the Super Bowl. They play in the shittiest, shit-kicking division of the 21st century, and they'll win it like they always do. I don't think it'll impact their season much at all.

I hope the pats downplay this shitty division as much as your are. The bill, dolphins, and jets are all going up quickly all the while the pats are going down the same hill. They've reached their peak.
Keep thinking they will go 2-2 during a suspension. They may be lucky with a 1-3 record. They aren't a lock with Brady playing every game.

Who wanted to bet that they'd make the super bowl? I'm to lazy to look back a couple pages. Game on if your want.

Ledbetterman10

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Ledbetterman10 said:

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Excessive and unnecessary. I'm a bills fan and I don't think a suspension was warranted.

Now who wanted to bet the pats will still make the super bowl this season? Because I'm willing to take your money...

Their Super Bowl odds will probably go up a bit in the coming days so that might be a pretty good bet. I mean, really, they'll go 2-2 without him if the suspension ends up being 4 games. But ya know what? They started 2-2 last year and went on to win the Super Bowl. They play in the shittiest, shit-kicking division of the 21st century, and they'll win it like they always do. I don't think it'll impact their season much at all.

I hope the pats downplay this shitty division as much as your are. The bill, dolphins, and jets are all going up quickly all the while the pats are going down the same hill. They've reached their peak.
Keep thinking they will go 2-2 during a suspension. They may be lucky with a 1-3 record. They aren't a lock with Brady playing every game.

Who wanted to bet that they'd make the super bowl? I'm to lazy to look back a couple pages. Game on if your want.

Eh, I'm a Dolphins fan. I know this division. Too well actually. Even when they have a chance, the Jets, Bills, and Fish just fuck it up in the end. Hopefully you're right and the tide finally turns but until it happens, there's no reason for me to believe the Pats can't win the division at like 10-6 or something Or on second thought.......

MAYBE THE DOLPHINS WIN THE DIVISION AND THEN WIN THE SUPER BOWL!!!!! What a world THAT would be to live in!



Or maybe they'll finish 8-8 like they always do.

MayDay10

The division promises to be better. The defenses should all be pretty brutal. Pieces have been added offensively. quarterbacks are all still a question mark though.

Wobbie

so, the two schmucks probably lose their jobs for doing what the multi-millionaire asks.

Typical.

Halifax2TheMax

Ledbetterman10 said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Excessive and unnecessary. I'm a bills fan and I don't think a suspension was warranted.

Now who wanted to bet the pats will still make the super bowl this season? Because I'm willing to take your money...

Their Super Bowl odds will probably go up a bit in the coming days so that might be a pretty good bet. I mean, really, they'll go 2-2 without him if the suspension ends up being 4 games. But ya know what? They started 2-2 last year and went on to win the Super Bowl. They play in the shittiest, shit-kicking division of the 21st century, and they'll win it like they always do. I don't think it'll impact their season much at all.

I hope the pats downplay this shitty division as much as your are. The bill, dolphins, and jets are all going up quickly all the while the pats are going down the same hill. They've reached their peak.
Keep thinking they will go 2-2 during a suspension. They may be lucky with a 1-3 record. They aren't a lock with Brady playing every game.

Who wanted to bet that they'd make the super bowl? I'm to lazy to look back a couple pages. Game on if your want.

Eh, I'm a Dolphins fan. I know this division. Too well actually. Even when they have a chance, the Jets, Bills, and Fish just fuck it up in the end. Hopefully you're right and the tide finally turns but until it happens, there's no reason for me to believe the Pats can't win the division at like 10-6 or something Or on second thought.......

MAYBE THE DOLPHINS WIN THE DIVISION AND THEN WIN THE SUPER BOWL!!!!! What a world THAT would be to live in!



Or maybe they'll finish 8-8 like they always do.

I'm gonna do some shrooms and stare at your whatever you call that embedded thingy majiggy dolphin thingy.

Halifax2TheMax

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Ledbetterman10 said:

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Excessive and unnecessary. I'm a bills fan and I don't think a suspension was warranted.

Now who wanted to bet the pats will still make the super bowl this season? Because I'm willing to take your money...

Their Super Bowl odds will probably go up a bit in the coming days so that might be a pretty good bet. I mean, really, they'll go 2-2 without him if the suspension ends up being 4 games. But ya know what? They started 2-2 last year and went on to win the Super Bowl. They play in the shittiest, shit-kicking division of the 21st century, and they'll win it like they always do. I don't think it'll impact their season much at all.

I hope the pats downplay this shitty division as much as your are. The bill, dolphins, and jets are all going up quickly all the while the pats are going down the same hill. They've reached their peak.
Keep thinking they will go 2-2 during a suspension. They may be lucky with a 1-3 record. They aren't a lock with Brady playing every game.

Who wanted to bet that they'd make the super bowl? I'm to lazy to look back a couple pages. Game on if your want.

Go back and look it up, donkey pit. I love the underestimation of Bill by the way. We lost Brady on the first game of the season and still went 11-5 and missed the playoffs because of the tie break with the Jets. Other teams made the playoffs with worse records, something I'll never understand if your talking "legitimacy."

igotid88

Pats will go 3-1 without Brady

Amongst the Ani

As a 49er fan at least this should end the debate between Brady and Montana for greatest ever. I never thought it was even a debate having watched Montana play his whole career. If it wasn't for his back problems he would have had 1 more. But I am also skewed in my opinion. So screw Brady. Starve Rex Ryan and let him have at Brady.

cutz

http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/11218/nfl-aware-of-game-ball-incident-during-panthers-vikings

NFL aware of game ball incident during Panthers-Vikings

Ben Goessling, ESPN Minnesota Vikings reporter

MINNEAPOLIS -- The Minnesota Vikings played their coldest home game in 38 years on Sunday, when they beat the Carolina Panthers in 12-degree temperatures at TCF Bank Stadium.

As both teams dealt with the freezing temperatures, Fox cameras showed sideline attendants using heaters to warm up game balls, which is against league rules. NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino said Monday morning on NFL Network that officials warned both the Vikings and Panthers not to heat up the balls during Sunday's game, and would remind teams this week not to heat game balls.

"You can't do anything with the footballs in terms of any artificial, whether you're heating them up, whether it's a regular game ball or kicking ball, you can't do anything to the football," Blandino said. "So that was noticed during the game, both teams were made aware of it during the game and we will certainly remind the clubs as we get into more cold weather games that you can't do anything with the football in terms of heating them up with those sideline heaters."

By rule, the home team is responsible for providing the game balls. The footage shown on NFL Network is from the Vikings' sideline, though there are attendants from both teams on both sidelines and a league source said the Vikings weren't heating up the balls during the game.

Zimmer said he hadn't heard anything from the league about it on Monday, adding, "Somebody told me (Carolina's) ball boys were doing it."

Ball boys are allowed to carry hand heaters, as Fox officiating analyst Mike Pereira pointed out, but they are not allowed to put game balls in front of sideline heaters. The Vikings have two December home games on their schedule -- this Sunday against the New York Jets and Dec. 28 against the Chicago Bears. After the league sent out a warning, it stands to reason they'll be watching the sidelines closely in cold-weather games this month.

F Me In The Brain

cdysinge said:

So screw Brady. Starve Rex Ryan and let him have at Brady.

That is a fate worse than death.

JK_Livin

imalive said:

so, the two schmucks probably lose their jobs for doing what the multi-millionaire asks.

Typical.

At least one of them received a cool nickname "The Deflator"

JK_Livin

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Halifax2TheMax said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:

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Excessive and unnecessary. I'm a bills fan and I don't think a suspension was warranted.

Now who wanted to bet the pats will still make the super bowl this season? Because I'm willing to take your money...

Their Super Bowl odds will probably go up a bit in the coming days so that might be a pretty good bet. I mean, really, they'll go 2-2 without him if the suspension ends up being 4 games. But ya know what? They started 2-2 last year and went on to win the Super Bowl. They play in the shittiest, shit-kicking division of the 21st century, and they'll win it like they always do. I don't think it'll impact their season much at all.

I hope the pats downplay this shitty division as much as your are. The bill, dolphins, and jets are all going up quickly all the while the pats are going down the same hill. They've reached their peak.
Keep thinking they will go 2-2 during a suspension. They may be lucky with a 1-3 record. They aren't a lock with Brady playing every game.

Who wanted to bet that they'd make the super bowl? I'm to lazy to look back a couple pages. Game on if your want.

Go back and look it up, donkey pit. I love the underestimation of Bill by the way. We lost Brady on the first game of the season and still went 11-5 and missed the playoffs because of the tie break with the Jets. Other teams made the playoffs with worse records, something I'll never understand if your talking "legitimacy."

Who said legitimacy? I said the pats are passed their peak. The division is getting better. Plus I see the schedule. The pats can definitely lose to Pittsburgh, buffalo, and Dallas. I'm giving you Jacksonville. Who cares what happened in 2006 or whenever Brady broke his leg? Again, who mentioned legitimacy?

JK_Livin

Division winners with a lower record than teams that don't win their division make the playoffs. The strength of divisions changes all the time. No need to change this rule.
EDIT: if you're to change that rule, you may as well just get rid of divisions because they'd be meaningless.

Ledbetterman10

Halifax2TheMax said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:

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Excessive and unnecessary. I'm a bills fan and I don't think a suspension was warranted.

Now who wanted to bet the pats will still make the super bowl this season? Because I'm willing to take your money...

Their Super Bowl odds will probably go up a bit in the coming days so that might be a pretty good bet. I mean, really, they'll go 2-2 without him if the suspension ends up being 4 games. But ya know what? They started 2-2 last year and went on to win the Super Bowl. They play in the shittiest, shit-kicking division of the 21st century, and they'll win it like they always do. I don't think it'll impact their season much at all.

I hope the pats downplay this shitty division as much as your are. The bill, dolphins, and jets are all going up quickly all the while the pats are going down the same hill. They've reached their peak.
Keep thinking they will go 2-2 during a suspension. They may be lucky with a 1-3 record. They aren't a lock with Brady playing every game.

Who wanted to bet that they'd make the super bowl? I'm to lazy to look back a couple pages. Game on if your want.

Go back and look it up, donkey pit. I love the underestimation of Bill by the way. We lost Brady on the first game of the season and still went 11-5 and missed the playoffs because of the tie break with the Jets. Other teams made the playoffs with worse records, something I'll never understand if your talking "legitimacy."

It was the Dolphins who won the tiebreaker over the Pats in 2008....not the Jets.

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On ATH, Bomani Jones said the chargers were fined $100,000 for doctoring balls. When that first came up, you don't think the chargers denied this at all? That they immediately admitted to the wrong doing and accepted the punishment? I doubt it. This was a witch hunt.

pjhawks

JK_Livin said:

since 2007 when the rule was changed to allow the offenses to be in charge of the footballs (led by suggestions by Brady and Peyton Manning apparently), the Patriots have a historically low fumble rate that far exceeds what they were prior to 2007 and far exceeds the fumble rates of all other NFL teams EVER....things that make you go hmmmm.

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And if belechick and Kraft were found to not have anything to do with this, why did they fine Kraft and take away the draft picks? This makes no sense.

Halifax2TheMax

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:

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Excessive and unnecessary. I'm a bills fan and I don't think a suspension was warranted.

Now who wanted to bet the pats will still make the super bowl this season? Because I'm willing to take your money...

Their Super Bowl odds will probably go up a bit in the coming days so that might be a pretty good bet. I mean, really, they'll go 2-2 without him if the suspension ends up being 4 games. But ya know what? They started 2-2 last year and went on to win the Super Bowl. They play in the shittiest, shit-kicking division of the 21st century, and they'll win it like they always do. I don't think it'll impact their season much at all.

I hope the pats downplay this shitty division as much as your are. The bill, dolphins, and jets are all going up quickly all the while the pats are going down the same hill. They've reached their peak.
Keep thinking they will go 2-2 during a suspension. They may be lucky with a 1-3 record. They aren't a lock with Brady playing every game.

Who wanted to bet that they'd make the super bowl? I'm to lazy to look back a couple pages. Game on if your want.

Go back and look it up, donkey pit. I love the underestimation of Bill by the way. We lost Brady on the first game of the season and still went 11-5 and missed the playoffs because of the tie break with the Jets. Other teams made the playoffs with worse records, something I'll never understand if your talking "legitimacy."

It was the Dolphins who won the tiebreaker over the Pats in 2008....not the Jets.

Thanks for the correction. I don't have an encyclopedic mind for sports and especially not for numbers and stats.