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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    If Belichick is willing to give up Garappolo for a draft pick with a soon to be 40 year old QB on the roster, that pretty much tells you his value.


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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,972
    Don't try to figure out Bill's roster or draft moves. And Garroppolo went 3-1 in Tom's absence with one of those wins against the Cards on the road.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    What's-his-face took the Pats to 11-5 when tommy was injured.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,972
    Jason P said:

    What's-his-face took the Pats to 11-5 when tommy was injured.

    True. And they missed the playoffs, playing in the soft AFC East.
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    Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Don't try to figure out Bill's roster or draft moves. And Garroppolo went 3-1 in Tom's absence with one of those wins against the Cards on the road.

    Tony Mandarich would go 3-1 in that system with that support.
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    Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Don't try to figure out Bill's roster or draft moves. And Garroppolo went 3-1 in Tom's absence with one of those wins against the Cards on the road.

    The 7-8-1 Cards game was not a statement game. Those Cards started out 1-3 with losses to Buffalo and the Rams to start the season along with the Pats loss. The 49ers as horrible as they were beat the Rams twice. Find a better example of why this guy is worth the 12th pick in the draft.
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,657
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Don't try to figure out Bill's roster or draft moves. And Garroppolo went 3-1 in Tom's absence with one of those wins against the Cards on the road.

    the stellar 7-8-1 Cardinals? those Cardinals?
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Jason P said:

    What's-his-face took the Pats to 11-5 when tommy was injured.

    True. And they missed the playoffs, playing in the soft AFC East.
    Brady is a system quarterback.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Jason P said:

    What's-his-face took the Pats to 11-5 when tommy was injured.

    True. And they missed the playoffs, playing in the soft AFC East.
    Yeah, but the 8-8 Chargers made the playoffs because of the dumb divisional winner rules. There should be an exception that states you must have at least have winning record in order to advance over a team that has three more wins then you do.
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    Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    In non pats news the Cards may also be royally fucked. It looks like Palmer is retiring. He removed his kids from their school in AZ. He has been non committal on coming back. The people here are freaking a little as their run may have ended on that shitty 7-8-1 season.
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,657
    ^^^ Palmer was never taking that team back to the SB.

    it's a shame, cuz besides the AFC East, the cards are in the softest division in football.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
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    Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    AFC South is the worst. At least let the Pats have that they are not in the easiest division but the second easiest.
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,657
    :no_mouth:
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,657
    who's the babe?


    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
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    Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790

    Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
    Fuckus rules all
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    Seattle
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
    Easy division?

    2013-16 regular seasons:

    Pats vs afc east: 17-7

    Pats vs rest of league: 33-7

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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,653
    Amongst the Ani said:

    In non pats news the Cards may also be royally fucked. It looks like Palmer is retiring. He removed his kids from their school in AZ. He has been non committal on coming back. The people here are freaking a little as their run may have ended on that shitty 7-8-1 season.

    Romo?
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    Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    Talk on the radio here is that they want Glennon as a bridge QB and will draft one early this year as a long term answer. They are not in good shape cap wise and couldn't afford Romo unless the Cowboys cut him and they get him cheap. Palmer retiring would free up cap space but the feeling is they would use it to resign Jefferson/Campbell and go with a cheaper option at QB. Their run is coming to a close soon anyways. Fitz maybe has one year left, Arians has health issues (and is in his late 60's) and the last couple drafts were mostly busts.
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    g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,127
    JK_Livin said:

    ATL OC Kyle Shanahan lost his bag w/ the team's gameplan in it per @MySportsUpdate Baggage handler says honest mistake


    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Don't try to figure out Bill's roster or draft moves. And Garroppolo went 3-1 in Tom's absence with one of those wins against the Cards on the road.

    Wasn't one of those wins and the loss with Jacoby Brisset at the helm?

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    CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 2,945
    Jason P said:

    What's-his-face took the Pats to 11-5 when tommy was injured.

    Tommy went 16-0 with the same team.

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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,653
    CantKeepmedown said:

    Jason P said:

    What's-his-face took the Pats to 11-5 when tommy was injured.

    Tommy went 16-0 with the same team.

    Yes, indeed, he did.


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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,373
    Wobbie said:

    who's the babe?


    Linda Holliday, Bill's SO.
    This weekend we rock Portland
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Amongst the Ani said:

    In non pats news the Cards may also be royally fucked. It looks like Palmer is retiring. He removed his kids from their school in AZ. He has been non committal on coming back. The people here are freaking a little as their run may have ended on that shitty 7-8-1 season.

    Romo?
    AZ was going to pay Palmer close to $17M next year so he can fit in the cap
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,543
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Jason P said:

    What's-his-face took the Pats to 11-5 when tommy was injured.

    True. And they missed the playoffs, playing in the soft AFC East.
    11-5 is pretty good for a first year as a starter
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,543
    g under p said:

    JK_Livin said:

    ATL OC Kyle Shanahan lost his bag w/ the team's gameplan in it per @MySportsUpdate Baggage handler says honest mistake


    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Don't try to figure out Bill's roster or draft moves. And Garroppolo went 3-1 in Tom's absence with one of those wins against the Cards on the road.

    Wasn't one of those wins and the loss with Jacoby Brisset at the helm?

    Peace
    And the 4th game he was playing injured and they barely lost
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,373
    igotid88 said:

    g under p said:

    JK_Livin said:

    ATL OC Kyle Shanahan lost his bag w/ the team's gameplan in it per @MySportsUpdate Baggage handler says honest mistake


    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Don't try to figure out Bill's roster or draft moves. And Garroppolo went 3-1 in Tom's absence with one of those wins against the Cards on the road.

    Wasn't one of those wins and the loss with Jacoby Brisset at the helm?

    Peace
    And the 4th game he was playing injured and they barely lost
    They got shut out, so I don't know if that qualifies as "barely".
    16-0 isn't all that close.
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    CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 2,945
    Cliffy6745 said:

    CantKeepmedown said:

    Jason P said:

    What's-his-face took the Pats to 11-5 when tommy was injured.

    Tommy went 16-0 with the same team.

    Yes, indeed, he did.


    Ha! Touche!

    My point was that people point to Cassel going 11-5 as some knock against Brady and that anybody schmo can QB the Pats. Cassel lost 5 more games than Brady did. Not exactly the same.

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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,653
    CantKeepmedown said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    CantKeepmedown said:

    Jason P said:

    What's-his-face took the Pats to 11-5 when tommy was injured.

    Tommy went 16-0 with the same team.

    Yes, indeed, he did.


    Ha! Touche!

    My point was that people point to Cassel going 11-5 as some knock against Brady and that anybody schmo can QB the Pats. Cassel lost 5 more games than Brady did. Not exactly the same.

    ha, I hear you. I'm just never going to pass up an opportunity to remind a Pats fan of 18-1.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,543
    Poncier said:

    igotid88 said:

    g under p said:

    JK_Livin said:

    ATL OC Kyle Shanahan lost his bag w/ the team's gameplan in it per @MySportsUpdate Baggage handler says honest mistake


    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Don't try to figure out Bill's roster or draft moves. And Garroppolo went 3-1 in Tom's absence with one of those wins against the Cards on the road.

    Wasn't one of those wins and the loss with Jacoby Brisset at the helm?

    Peace
    And the 4th game he was playing injured and they barely lost
    They got shut out, so I don't know if that qualifies as "barely".
    16-0 isn't all that close.
    it's not a blowout either. And a healthier qb makes it closer
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,657
    Cliffy6745 said:

    CantKeepmedown said:

    Jason P said:

    What's-his-face took the Pats to 11-5 when tommy was injured.

    Tommy went 16-0 with the same team.

    Yes, indeed, he did.


    TWICE!!!!! :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
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