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imalive wrote:

uggggh :twisted:

Dude? Calm it down....


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Newch91

This is turning into one of the most boring Super Bowls I've ever watched.

Newch91

https://twitter.com/andylevy/status/298244134509101057

Newch91

Fuck :evil:

peacefrompaul

Horseshit... obvously a pass interference

It's human nature that the ref didn't throw a flag? Shut up

SatansFuton

There was pass interference going on all night long by both sides, and the refs were letting them play.

Plus, it looked to me like they were interfering with each other, if they called a penalty on Baltimore they should have called one on SF too.

Plus, the ball didn't even look catchable.

I hate to see Ray win a ring as much as anybody, but I see no foul play here. Let's take our lumps here and not blame the refs.

peacefrompaul

Meh.

rick1zoo2

Steve Biscotti looks like ed

eeriepadave

Decent game i thought. Flacco was great! Kapernick had his moments but made some bad plays. Power outage>Halftime show. Commercials

The Waiting Trophy Man

SatansFuton wrote:

Plus, the ball didn't even look catchable.

I disagree; that ball was very catchable. And it did look like a hold. Kaepernick could've and should've just run it in.

I kind of didn't want the Niners to win anyway. Kaepernick has only started 10 games. No one should win a SuperBowl with so little experience.

The Waiting Trophy Man

He could have caught it:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/03/football/gallery/super-bowl/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Edit: Sorry, it's the 10th picture in.

SatansFuton

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:

SatansFuton wrote:

Plus, the ball didn't even look catchable.

I disagree; that ball was very catchable. And it did look like a hold. Kaepernick could've and should've just run it in.

I kind of didn't want the Niners to win anyway. Kaepernick has only started 10 games. No one should win a SuperBowl with so little experience.

Could be. I actually didn't notice the path of the ball until the very last replay I saw. Like most people I had been looking at the contact between the two (they both looked guilty to me), and on the last replay I saw I though it looked well out of bounds, maybe not completely uncatchable, but it would have taken a hell of a catch to get it, but that could have just been the angle.

Between what both players were doing, and the fact that most of the game they had been letting them play and not calling a lot of stuff like that, I thought it was a pretty good no-call.

lukin2006

If you winning comes down to good refereeing then I wish everyone good luck ... but as SatansFuton said they were not calling a lot of that stuff ... overall the refereeing is what I expect ... average. The only reason this game was close was because of the power outage, Baltimore lost all the momentum and were flat through the rest of the 3rd quarter, they did get it together in the 4th and salvaged what was looking like a disaster of a collapse, good for Baltimore, they showed some good character in the end.

SatansFuton

lukin2006 wrote:

If you winning comes down to good refereeing then I wish everyone good luck ... but as SatansFuton said they were not calling a lot of that stuff ... overall the refereeing is what I expect ... average. The only reason this game was close was because of the power outage, Baltimore lost all the momentum and were flat through the rest of the 3rd quarter, they did get it together in the 4th and salvaged what was looking like a disaster of a collapse, good for Baltimore, they showed some good character in the end.

Personally I didn't buy into the light thing. I mean, it could have had some affect, but they're professionals and shouldn't come out playing like shit (and they did) just because of a game delay.

Newch91

How he wasn't ejected is beyond me.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... --nfl.html

The Waiting Trophy Man

SatansFuton wrote:

Could be. I actually didn't notice the path of the ball until the very last replay I saw. Like most people I had been looking at the contact between the two (they both looked guilty to me), and on the last replay I saw I though it looked well out of bounds, maybe not completely uncatchable, but it would have taken a hell of a catch to get it, but that could have just been the angle.

Between what both players were doing, and the fact that most of the game they had been letting them play and not calling a lot of stuff like that, I thought it was a pretty good no-call.

Actually you're right. I just saw a couple more replays and I don't think it was catchable. Probably a good no-call too because even if he was held, he had no chance at the ball.

peacefrompaul

Newch91 wrote:

How he wasn't ejected is beyond me.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... --nfl.html

I saw that!

lukin2006

SatansFuton wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

If you winning comes down to good refereeing then I wish everyone good luck ... but as SatansFuton said they were not calling a lot of that stuff ... overall the refereeing is what I expect ... average. The only reason this game was close was because of the power outage, Baltimore lost all the momentum and were flat through the rest of the 3rd quarter, they did get it together in the 4th and salvaged what was looking like a disaster of a collapse, good for Baltimore, they showed some good character in the end.

Personally I didn't buy into the light thing. I mean, it could have had some affect, but they're professionals and shouldn't come out playing like shit (and they did) just because of a game delay.

The evidence of them losing momentum after the power outage was clear, I doubt they went from great in the first half to looking like a deer caught in headlights in the 3rd quarter ... whatever the reason that 1/2 delay plus half time really didn't help Flacco ... and by the 4th quarter the ravens seemed fine on offence ... they seemed a little tired on defence ... either way they got the job done.

I agree with you they are professionals but football is a game in which emotion and momentum play big parts and SF somehow seized momentum from that power outage. I think they just were in too big a hole at that point.

But that was fine it made for a good Super Bowl in the end.

SatansFuton

lukin2006 wrote:

SatansFuton wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

If you winning comes down to good refereeing then I wish everyone good luck ... but as SatansFuton said they were not calling a lot of that stuff ... overall the refereeing is what I expect ... average. The only reason this game was close was because of the power outage, Baltimore lost all the momentum and were flat through the rest of the 3rd quarter, they did get it together in the 4th and salvaged what was looking like a disaster of a collapse, good for Baltimore, they showed some good character in the end.

Personally I didn't buy into the light thing. I mean, it could have had some affect, but they're professionals and shouldn't come out playing like shit (and they did) just because of a game delay.

The evidence of them losing momentum after the power outage was clear, I doubt they went from great in the first half to looking like a deer caught in headlights in the 3rd quarter ... whatever the reason that 1/2 delay plus half time really didn't help Flacco ... and by the 4th quarter the ravens seemed fine on offence ... they seemed a little tired on defence ... either way they got the job done.

I agree with you they are professionals but football is a game in which emotion and momentum play big parts and SF somehow seized momentum from that power outage. I think they just were in too big a hole at that point.

But that was fine it made for a good Super Bowl in the end.

I didn't think they were playing all that great myself. They had some big plays (like the kick return), and some SF turnovers, but they weren't impressing me too much.

I can see if Baltimore came out just stale, but they came out sucking. San Fran had to sit there just like Baltimore.

As a Cowboy fan, you saw plenty of big comebacks this season (some of which came up a little short, like SF) and the lights didn't go out in any of those games. I think Baltimore just got too comfortable with their lead.

Like I said, I'm sure it had some effect. But just like you said that if SF needed good refereeing to win, then good luck, if Baltimore couldn't take care of business because of a power outage... same thing.

I understand what you're saying about everything, and I'm not completely disagreeing with you, but some of the stuff Baltimore did was just stupid. The lights didn't make them run into the kicker on what would have been a missed FG for example. I'm just saying SF deserves a little credit for mounting the comeback. Nothing like that can happen and NOT affect the game, we could get into butterfly effect and all that, but just like I don't blame the refs for "giving" Baltimore the game on that one call, I wouldn't have blamed the lights if SF won.

Besides, right after the lights came back on SF had the ball and failed to convert on third down and punted. It's not like they came right out and scored on the first play.

It was just such a weird situation.

The Juggler

SatansFuton wrote:

There was pass interference going on all night long by both sides, and the refs were letting them play.

Plus, it looked to me like they were interfering with each other, if they called a penalty on Baltimore they should have called one on SF too.

Plus, the ball didn't even look catchable.

I hate to see Ray win a ring as much as anybody, but I see no foul play here. Let's take our lumps here and not blame the refs.

i agree. looked like a hold and a push off, with a ball that may or may not have been catchable. but it was consistent with how they called the rest of the game...which i enjoyed. the ref's let them play. you don't want a championship coming down to a call like that. some thoughts:

i really enjoyed the game. part of that has to do with me having the ravens in multiple bets, but it was entertaining from start to finish.

people, i assume, will now have to stop ripping on flacco. marvelous game by joe. on point all night. his audible on 3rd and 1 with about 6 minutes left--where he hit boldin on the shoulder, was as good a play as you will see any quarterback make.

happy to see john harbough win. great coach/underrated no longer. he was with the eagles so long--it's nice to see him get over the hump. i thought he made a huge mistake on the fake fg, though. you can't leave points on the table. showed the confidence he had in his defense at the time though. still--9 yards is a long way to go.

the balanced attack by both teams brought a smile to this guy's face.

ray lewis can go to hell. i'm glad he's done. i tried to avoid his nonsense these few weeks and just focus on the game.

power outage definitely helped the niners. sure they didn't convert a 3rd and 13 on the first play after it, but i think the ravens went 3 and out and then the niners started scoring for the rest of the quarter. it definitely felt like it sapped the ravens momentum.

the ravens are worthy of a championship. they beat the league's 2 best teams in a row for the title.



....and the nfl remains this country's greatest reality show. there was more drama packed into the super dome last night than all the shows on all the channels in the world. good times, indeed.