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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,299
    Obviously pulling for the Seahawks, Seattle being a "loser" city like Cleveland, Buffalo and my hometown. Also, it's been an obscenely easy road to the Super Bowl for the Patriots. Even the 2022 Eagles had to injure the Conference Championship opposing QB themselves. But hey, you can only beat the teams you play.
    Yes, beating in order the #5, #1 and #2 defenses in the league is obscenely easy. Teams do it routinely.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,887
    edited 4:31AM
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    TahoeJeff said:


    I’ve got my fingers crossed!
    Time for a hedge.
    Solid bet on Pats +4 and you could possibly middle the game.
    Or just throw a couple hundred on Pats money line to ensure you come out ahead.
    He bet $20 dude... All he has to do is bet 20 on the pats pretty much and break even.
    Breaking even is not the point of hedging in his position.
    As he is a Seahawks fan obviously, he will be thinking with his heart and rooting for them to win so hedging is a tough choice.
    But he can guarantee himself up to $700 with a hedge or let it ride and guarantee nothing. Plus, with SEA as a 4-point favorite he has a unique opportunity using the spread. Example: Put $700 on the Pats +4 and if Seattle wins by 1, 2 or 3 and he gets 2,100.  If they win by 4 he gets 1,400. Any other outcome he gets 700. And can do a lesser amount just to guarantee some payout.

    Do nothing and Seahawks win he gets 1400, Pats win he gets nothing.
    Is it really worth to hedge a bet when the original ticket is a $20 gamble?
    Post edited by pearldavidson at
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,299
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    TahoeJeff said:


    I’ve got my fingers crossed!
    Time for a hedge.
    Solid bet on Pats +4 and you could possibly middle the game.
    Or just throw a couple hundred on Pats money line to ensure you come out ahead.
    He bet $20 dude... All he has to do is bet 20 on the pats pretty much and break even.
    Breaking even is not the point of hedging in his position.
    As he is a Seahawks fan obviously, he will be thinking with his heart and rooting for them to win so hedging is a tough choice.
    But he can guarantee himself up to $700 with a hedge or let it ride and guarantee nothing. Plus, with SEA as a 4-point favorite he has a unique opportunity using the spread. Example: Put $700 on the Pats +4 and if Seattle wins by 1, 2 or 3 and he gets 2,100.  If they win by 4 he gets 1,400. Any other outcome he gets 700. And can do a lesser amount just to guarantee some payout.

    Do nothing and Seahawks win he gets 1400, Pats win he gets nothing.
    Is it really worth to hedge a bet when the original ticket is a $20 gamble?
    Depends on what you want to get, I laid it out, it's an opportunity to guarantee money vs letting the bet ride and watching MacDonald opt to not hand off to Walker at the 1 and have Darnold throw it to Marcus Jones.
    Personal choice.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 32,195
    edited 10:32AM
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    TahoeJeff said:


    I’ve got my fingers crossed!
    Time for a hedge.
    Solid bet on Pats +4 and you could possibly middle the game.
    Or just throw a couple hundred on Pats money line to ensure you come out ahead.
    He bet $20 dude... All he has to do is bet 20 on the pats pretty much and break even.
    Breaking even is not the point of hedging in his position.
    As he is a Seahawks fan obviously, he will be thinking with his heart and rooting for them to win so hedging is a tough choice.
    But he can guarantee himself up to $700 with a hedge or let it ride and guarantee nothing. Plus, with SEA as a 4-point favorite he has a unique opportunity using the spread. Example: Put $700 on the Pats +4 and if Seattle wins by 1, 2 or 3 and he gets 2,100.  If they win by 4 he gets 1,400. Any other outcome he gets 700. And can do a lesser amount just to guarantee some payout.

    Do nothing and Seahawks win he gets 1400, Pats win he gets nothing.
    Is it really worth to hedge a bet when the original ticket is a $20 gamble?
    Max out to the best of your ability.
    The math there shows locking in a net of at least $680 on a $20 bet.


    Post edited by F Me In The Brain at
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  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,887
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    TahoeJeff said:


    I’ve got my fingers crossed!
    Time for a hedge.
    Solid bet on Pats +4 and you could possibly middle the game.
    Or just throw a couple hundred on Pats money line to ensure you come out ahead.
    He bet $20 dude... All he has to do is bet 20 on the pats pretty much and break even.
    Breaking even is not the point of hedging in his position.
    As he is a Seahawks fan obviously, he will be thinking with his heart and rooting for them to win so hedging is a tough choice.
    But he can guarantee himself up to $700 with a hedge or let it ride and guarantee nothing. Plus, with SEA as a 4-point favorite he has a unique opportunity using the spread. Example: Put $700 on the Pats +4 and if Seattle wins by 1, 2 or 3 and he gets 2,100.  If they win by 4 he gets 1,400. Any other outcome he gets 700. And can do a lesser amount just to guarantee some payout.

    Do nothing and Seahawks win he gets 1400, Pats win he gets nothing.
    Is it really worth to hedge a bet when the original ticket is a $20 gamble?
    Depends on what you want to get, I laid it out, it's an opportunity to guarantee money vs letting the bet ride and watching MacDonald opt to not hand off to Walker at the 1 and have Darnold throw it to Marcus Jones.
    Personal choice.
    SB 49 vibes.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,299
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    TahoeJeff said:


    I’ve got my fingers crossed!
    Time for a hedge.
    Solid bet on Pats +4 and you could possibly middle the game.
    Or just throw a couple hundred on Pats money line to ensure you come out ahead.
    He bet $20 dude... All he has to do is bet 20 on the pats pretty much and break even.
    Breaking even is not the point of hedging in his position.
    As he is a Seahawks fan obviously, he will be thinking with his heart and rooting for them to win so hedging is a tough choice.
    But he can guarantee himself up to $700 with a hedge or let it ride and guarantee nothing. Plus, with SEA as a 4-point favorite he has a unique opportunity using the spread. Example: Put $700 on the Pats +4 and if Seattle wins by 1, 2 or 3 and he gets 2,100.  If they win by 4 he gets 1,400. Any other outcome he gets 700. And can do a lesser amount just to guarantee some payout.

    Do nothing and Seahawks win he gets 1400, Pats win he gets nothing.
    Is it really worth to hedge a bet when the original ticket is a $20 gamble?
    Max out to the best of your ability.
    The math there shows locking in a net of at least $680 on a $20 bet.


    Exactly.
    And you can actually guarantee more. Pats are +198 on money line currently. So, let's just call it +200.
    You lay 500 on the Pats and you win $1,000 for a net win of 980 or if Seahawks win you net win is 900 (you could do exact math and guarantee a win of about 950 no matter what happens in the game).

    And like I said before the middle option is intriguing (line is up to 4.5).
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,355
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    TahoeJeff said:


    I’ve got my fingers crossed!
    Time for a hedge.
    Solid bet on Pats +4 and you could possibly middle the game.
    Or just throw a couple hundred on Pats money line to ensure you come out ahead.
    He bet $20 dude... All he has to do is bet 20 on the pats pretty much and break even.
    Breaking even is not the point of hedging in his position.
    As he is a Seahawks fan obviously, he will be thinking with his heart and rooting for them to win so hedging is a tough choice.
    But he can guarantee himself up to $700 with a hedge or let it ride and guarantee nothing. Plus, with SEA as a 4-point favorite he has a unique opportunity using the spread. Example: Put $700 on the Pats +4 and if Seattle wins by 1, 2 or 3 and he gets 2,100.  If they win by 4 he gets 1,400. Any other outcome he gets 700. And can do a lesser amount just to guarantee some payout.

    Do nothing and Seahawks win he gets 1400, Pats win he gets nothing.
    Is it really worth to hedge a bet when the original ticket is a $20 gamble?
    Max out to the best of your ability.
    The math there shows locking in a net of at least $680 on a $20 bet.


    Exactly.
    And you can actually guarantee more. Pats are +198 on money line currently. So, let's just call it +200.
    You lay 500 on the Pats and you win $1,000 for a net win of 980 or if Seahawks win you net win is 900 (you could do exact math and guarantee a win of about 950 no matter what happens in the game).

    And like I said before the middle option is intriguing (line is up to 4.5).
    Hedge 
    Guarantee yourself $950 or so, to me it would be the correct move. But thats me.

    The Chef may be saying, "No fucking way am I going to put down any bet against my beloved Seahawks!!"

    And I completely understand that. 
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,971
    Also wanted to chime on the stupid passing up of FGs, which is an epidemic at this point. Was there not snow in the forecast for the 2nd half? You have a backup QB - get the damn points!

    Also, why bother having anyone try to catch a punt at the 10-yard line? Then he called a TO without challenging that play - WTF. Crazy how the Rams screwed up this season. You hate to see it.

    Just terrible coaching this weekend.

    I want to go to NFL officials' houses and pelt them with expensive eggs when they call Taunting. Gimme a fucking break. I saw plenty of guys taunting this year that never got called. Hey ref, go to hell!

    yeah that was just a stupid coaching decision. 

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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 32,024
    I suspect the chef is a fan; not a degenerate gambler.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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