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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Mahomes should sue his receiving corps for non-support.
    Clearly they were never going to pay him what he wanted, but how much different would they have looked Thursday night with Tyreek Hill in the lineup? They could have withstood the loss of Kelce if they still had a weapon like him.
    Now if Kelce is out for any length of time, Mahomes will learn what Tom Brady had to endure in the 2006 season when he was throwing to the likes of Reche Caldwell, Doug Gabriel and Jabar Gaffney.
       You can’t blow wads of money on a WR and be able to keep the rest of your roster deep.   
    AJ Brown's contract with the Eagles is almost as much as Hill with Miami (and probably something Hill would have taken from KC), and they have the deepest roster in the NFL.

    how many championships have the Eagles won with Brown?  How many has KC won without Hill?
    Wasn't really the argument. But yes, the Chiefs barely beat the Eagles by a shirt tug in the one season that meets the criteria you posted.
    You said, "you can't blow a wad of money on a WR and be able to keep the rest of your roster deep", and I supplied an example (and there are others including Miami where Hill now plays) that says otherwise.

    How much are they paying Tua?  Give me an example of a team with a QB who's not on a rookie contract.  I also didn't see the Dolphins hoisting the Lombardi trophy last year.  You can underscore KC's championship all you want, but flags fly forever.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,888
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Mahomes should sue his receiving corps for non-support.
    Clearly they were never going to pay him what he wanted, but how much different would they have looked Thursday night with Tyreek Hill in the lineup? They could have withstood the loss of Kelce if they still had a weapon like him.
    Now if Kelce is out for any length of time, Mahomes will learn what Tom Brady had to endure in the 2006 season when he was throwing to the likes of Reche Caldwell, Doug Gabriel and Jabar Gaffney.
       You can’t blow wads of money on a WR and be able to keep the rest of your roster deep.   
    AJ Brown's contract with the Eagles is almost as much as Hill with Miami (and probably something Hill would have taken from KC), and they have the deepest roster in the NFL.

    how many championships have the Eagles won with Brown?  How many has KC won without Hill?
    Wasn't really the argument. But yes, the Chiefs barely beat the Eagles by a shirt tug in the one season that meets the criteria you posted.
    You said, "you can't blow a wad of money on a WR and be able to keep the rest of your roster deep", and I supplied an example (and there are others including Miami where Hill now plays) that says otherwise.

    How much are they paying Tua?  Give me an example of a team with a QB who's not on a rookie contract.  I also didn't see the Dolphins hoisting the Lombardi trophy last year.  You can underscore KC's championship all you want, but flags fly forever.
    I never underscored KC's title, not sure where you got that and why you have your back up about it. I said that the receivers they have given Mahomes this year are dog shit (last year he still had Juju and Hardiman until he got hurt), reminds me of the 2006 Pats. And once Kelce was lost, it just made that fact much more glaring.

    As for the example of a team without a cheap QB:
    Should I mention Philly for the 3rd time?
    Hurts singed a monster extension in the offseason
    His cash is low this year at 24.3 Mil then jumps to 40 Mil next, then 42, then 51 for the next 3. And they have a very high priced WR, what was his name again...oh yeah AJ Brown. And they have the deepest roster in the league, and lost the Superb Owl last year by a shirt tug.
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Mahomes should sue his receiving corps for non-support.
    Clearly they were never going to pay him what he wanted, but how much different would they have looked Thursday night with Tyreek Hill in the lineup? They could have withstood the loss of Kelce if they still had a weapon like him.
    Now if Kelce is out for any length of time, Mahomes will learn what Tom Brady had to endure in the 2006 season when he was throwing to the likes of Reche Caldwell, Doug Gabriel and Jabar Gaffney.
       You can’t blow wads of money on a WR and be able to keep the rest of your roster deep.   
    AJ Brown's contract with the Eagles is almost as much as Hill with Miami (and probably something Hill would have taken from KC), and they have the deepest roster in the NFL.

    how many championships have the Eagles won with Brown?  How many has KC won without Hill?
    Wasn't really the argument. But yes, the Chiefs barely beat the Eagles by a shirt tug in the one season that meets the criteria you posted.
    You said, "you can't blow a wad of money on a WR and be able to keep the rest of your roster deep", and I supplied an example (and there are others including Miami where Hill now plays) that says otherwise.

    How much are they paying Tua?  Give me an example of a team with a QB who's not on a rookie contract.  I also didn't see the Dolphins hoisting the Lombardi trophy last year.  You can underscore KC's championship all you want, but flags fly forever.
    I never underscored KC's title, not sure where you got that and why you have your back up about it. I said that the receivers they have given Mahomes this year are dog shit (last year he still had Juju and Hardiman until he got hurt), reminds me of the 2006 Pats. And once Kelce was lost, it just made that fact much more glaring.

    As for the example of a team without a cheap QB:
    Should I mention Philly for the 3rd time?
    Hurts singed a monster extension in the offseason
    His cash is low this year at 24.3 Mil then jumps to 40 Mil next, then 42, then 51 for the next 3. And they have a very high priced WR, what was his name again...oh yeah AJ Brown. And they have the deepest roster in the league, and lost the Superb Owl last year by a shirt tug.

    Fine you say you aren't underscoring it, I'm still taking it that way.  How many rings has Philly won now that Hurts has been paid and you have Brown on his deal?  I guess it was a shirt tug away from proving your point.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,888
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Mahomes should sue his receiving corps for non-support.
    Clearly they were never going to pay him what he wanted, but how much different would they have looked Thursday night with Tyreek Hill in the lineup? They could have withstood the loss of Kelce if they still had a weapon like him.
    Now if Kelce is out for any length of time, Mahomes will learn what Tom Brady had to endure in the 2006 season when he was throwing to the likes of Reche Caldwell, Doug Gabriel and Jabar Gaffney.
       You can’t blow wads of money on a WR and be able to keep the rest of your roster deep.   
    AJ Brown's contract with the Eagles is almost as much as Hill with Miami (and probably something Hill would have taken from KC), and they have the deepest roster in the NFL.

    how many championships have the Eagles won with Brown?  How many has KC won without Hill?
    Wasn't really the argument. But yes, the Chiefs barely beat the Eagles by a shirt tug in the one season that meets the criteria you posted.
    You said, "you can't blow a wad of money on a WR and be able to keep the rest of your roster deep", and I supplied an example (and there are others including Miami where Hill now plays) that says otherwise.

    How much are they paying Tua?  Give me an example of a team with a QB who's not on a rookie contract.  I also didn't see the Dolphins hoisting the Lombardi trophy last year.  You can underscore KC's championship all you want, but flags fly forever.
    I never underscored KC's title, not sure where you got that and why you have your back up about it. I said that the receivers they have given Mahomes this year are dog shit (last year he still had Juju and Hardiman until he got hurt), reminds me of the 2006 Pats. And once Kelce was lost, it just made that fact much more glaring.

    As for the example of a team without a cheap QB:
    Should I mention Philly for the 3rd time?
    Hurts singed a monster extension in the offseason
    His cash is low this year at 24.3 Mil then jumps to 40 Mil next, then 42, then 51 for the next 3. And they have a very high priced WR, what was his name again...oh yeah AJ Brown. And they have the deepest roster in the league, and lost the Superb Owl last year by a shirt tug.

    Fine you say you aren't underscoring it, I'm still taking it that way.  How many rings has Philly won now that Hurts has been paid and you have Brown on his deal?  I guess it was a shirt tug away from proving your point.
    Ha, obviously you're just ignoring my main point. I mean look at the first post in this quote chain, all I said was KC's current WRs look bad, how much better would they have looked Thursday with Hill since Kelce was out. You said it wasn't possible to pay a WR that kind of money and still have a deep roster and I replied with a concrete example of a team doing so. I never said anything about last season's title until you asked how many titles the Eagles won with Brown and how many KC won without Hill. I am discussing this season and what I saw last Thursday night, and if I were a Chief's fan, I wouldn't like what I saw.


    This will be the first season with Hurts earning big bucks, so we'll see how things shake out. He's no Mahomes, but his supporting cast is much better this season.
     And "I" don't have Brown on his deal, I'm not an Eagles fan, was just using them as an example of how a team could pay a top WR top money and still have a deep talented roster.
    Your Chiefs currently have the best QB in the league by a long shot. The guy will likely end up at minimum a top 5 all time QB if he stays healthy, to me it's a fire-able offense to surround that guy in his absolute prime with the WR corps he has this year. It's the way I felt about what the Pats surrounded Brady with in 2006, in his prime. It was complete crap, and they lost to the Colts in the AFCCG, then retooled the next year with Moss, Welker and Stallworth, allowing prime Brady to have a then historic season. I would think you'd want the Chiefs to give Mahomes some quality receivers, but maybe not.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited September 2023
    Glorified KC said:
    Poncier said:
    Mahomes should sue his receiving corps for non-support.
    Clearly they were never going to pay him what he wanted, but how much different would they have looked Thursday night with Tyreek Hill in the lineup? They could have withstood the loss of Kelce if they still had a weapon like him.
    Now if Kelce is out for any length of time, Mahomes will learn what Tom Brady had to endure in the 2006 season when he was throwing to the likes of Reche Caldwell, Doug Gabriel and Jabar Gaffney.
    I could make the argument they don’t win the Super Bowl last year if they had paid Hill.  He was becoming over-reliant on Hill and Kelce to where it was getting a lot easier to defend him and the offense.  If they want to keep up this run of Super Bowl contention, they’re going to have to develop skill position players.  They drafted Hill in the fifth and round helped him become what he is today.  You can’t blow wads of money on a WR and be able to keep the rest of your roster deep.  I’ll give this game a pass for now, but if this is the same story at the end of the month with the drops then I will get out my torch and pitchfork.
    It took Andy 5 years to bring in a receiver of any value here and they steamrolled to the Super Bowl that year. Had he done that sooner, he likely would've won a Lombardi trophy in those early years.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,635
    3 plays in and Rodgers is hurt 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,600
    igotid88 said:
    3 plays in and Rodgers is hurt 
    It’s unreal it almost feels scripted and he looked really slow 
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,811
    Sorry for Jets fans but I cannot stand Wroggers
    Hope Wilson lights it up. (Doubtful)
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,600
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Sorry for Jets fans but I cannot stand Wroggers
    Hope Wilson lights it up. (Doubtful)
    No my Jets will get shut out this team is cursed I’m convinced! 
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,811
    josevolution said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Sorry for Jets fans but I cannot stand Wroggers
    Hope Wilson lights it up. (Doubtful)
    No my Jets will get shut out this team is cursed I’m convinced! 
    No curse, just the pain of being a fan!
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,888
    Looks like his Achilles to me.
    D-O-N-E.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Poncier said:
    Looks like his Achilles to me.
    D-O-N-E.
    They said ankle a few times...  
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,888
    edited September 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Looks like his Achilles to me.
    D-O-N-E.
    They said ankle a few times...  
    Eh, I'm not a doctor and I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, what do I know?

    :lol:
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  • ZoSoTim
    ZoSoTim Posts: 1,281
    Poncier said:
    Looks like his Achilles to me.
    D-O-N-E.
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,828
    Damn

    i got tix jets v cowboys next week while on pj trip

    terrible 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Looks like his Achilles to me.
    D-O-N-E.
    They said ankle a few times...  
    Eh, I'm not a doctor and I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, what do I know?

    :lol:
    Now Schefter is saying you could see the calf reverberate.  I remember when we watched Durant lose his Achilles on live tv.  That was pretty gross.  
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    CROJAM95 said:
    Damn

    i got tix jets v cowboys next week while on pj trip

    terrible 
    I’ll tell you what…Dak is one of my fantasy QB’s….not playing him against this Jets D. :nuh_uh:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,828
    Wobbie said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    Damn

    i got tix jets v cowboys next week while on pj trip

    terrible 
    I’ll tell you what…Dak is one of my fantasy QB’s….not playing him against this Jets D. :nuh_uh:
    Who’s the other qb?

    gonna be defensive slugfest next week

    doinTexas game too


  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    RIP Toe Rogan.

    This contract is guaranteed at least through next year right?

    I mean at least Jets fans can take solace in that the Jets "only" gave up a 2nd round pick in 2024 for him now.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    By far the funniest injury in the history of sports 

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