Parents hides childs gender from public !

chadwick

idiots.

chadwick

the kid should tell the media that his/her parents are dumber than elephant turds.

everyone wants to be a modern day peace loving freedom garden growin hippy who lives purely with the earth and has no ties that bind them to catergories. again failure catches up with most of us no matter our beliefs.
i think these people are out of their damn minds and seek attention.

someone oughta say, "we could give a damn about you and your kid" or "your kid sucks because you made it that way" or "you are the equlivalent of (expletive deleted)"

pjfan31

Cate are you trying to say that this is alright?
or are you just enjoying the debate... ?

Claireack

Personally, I think that the only way this could have worked to make the first five years of this lads life work as gender neutral would be if the parents themselves were doing the same themselves. As soon as he saw his parents naked he would realise that he was like his dad and that is dad wore certain clothes and his mum who was physically different and wore different clothes.

Without both parents and immediate family all following the same rules I think all it's doing is testing other peoples attitudes and not doing the child any favours.

But that's just my opinion.

chadwick

Claireack wrote:

Personally, I think that the only way this could have worked to make the first five years of this lads life work as gender neutral would be if the parents themselves were doing the same themselves. As soon as he saw his parents naked he would realise that he was like his dad and that is dad wore certain clothes and his mum who was physically different and wore different clothes.

Without both parents and immediate family all following the same rules I think all it's doing is testing other peoples attitudes and not doing the child any favours.

But that's just my opinion.

thank you. and you;re right.

chadwick

betcha a million bucks this was the mother's idea and the father just goes along with what mom says. one of those postnatal depression things that lasted 5 years due to stubborn bullshit

SatansFuton

Claireack wrote:

Personally, I think that the only way this could have worked to make the first five years of this lads life work as gender neutral would be if the parents themselves were doing the same themselves.

I don't think the point of this, regardless of what they say, was for the child to be gender neutral and choose their own path. The story from about 6 months ago about the Canadian couple doing a similar thing was more along those lines because they apparently (at least according to the story) let the child choose to wear whatever he/she wanted. This child is being steered towards wearing the feminine clothes. So it's not really an "experiment" as much as it's just a case of these parents trying to steer the child into dressing like a girl. The fact they told him that masculine shirts and cargo pants are a "no-no" but the second he dresses in a shiny pink girls swimsuit it gets photographed and sent out to all their friends and family tells you what the parents agenda is. They don't want a gender neutral child, they want a girl.

TS96221

Claireack wrote:

Personally, I think that the only way this could have worked to make the first five years of this lads life work as gender neutral would be if the parents themselves were doing the same themselves. As soon as he saw his parents naked he would realise that he was like his dad and that is dad wore certain clothes and his mum who was physically different and wore different clothes.

Without both parents and immediate family all following the same rules I think all it's doing is testing other peoples attitudes and not doing the child any favours.

But that's just my opinion.

I don't think he has a dad. He has two mothers.

catefrances

chadwick wrote:

betcha a million bucks this was the mother's idea and the father just goes along with what mom says. one of those postnatal depression things that lasted 5 years due to stubborn bullshit

thanks for the sexist viewpoint chad.

catefrances

pjfan31 wrote:

Cate are you trying to say that this is alright?
or are you just enjoying the debate... ?

whos to say it isnt alright? i have no problem with it. the flipside is a child deciding to dress himself and then coming out wearing his sisters dress and the parents freaking out and saying no no no johnny boys dont wear dresses. and when little johnny asks why not.. the parents struggle to find an answer that doesnt make them look like idiots.. cause in my opinion 'just cause' or' its just not done in our society' or 'boys dont wear dresses', when clearly all throughout history they actually have, are not good responses to a child expressing him/herself.

oh and yes of course im enjoying the debate.

catefrances

stargirl69 wrote:

I agree with your parenting but this article is about far more than that.By the very fact the article exists will have people assuming,debating,agreeing,disagreeing that is what we do when faced with something that makes us evaluate and question our own experiences and those of others.
It would not be my choice to parent that way,I see no wrong in confirming a child's gender.

and i see nothing wrong in not confirming it or choosing not to share it.

all you gotta do is see the hesitation on peoples faces when confronted with a baby in neutral coloured clothing to see that even from birth we are defined by what sex were born. its like oh shit its not wearing pink.... or blue... what is it? what does it matter. its healthy thats all that matters. if a baby is constantly reassured by the use of its name rather than 'arent you a clever boy' or whatever then imo that can only benefit the child. they become more than just their sex... they become themselves.

chadwick

catefrances wrote:

chadwick wrote:

betcha a million bucks this was the mother's idea and the father just goes along with what mom says. one of those postnatal depression things that lasted 5 years due to stubborn bullshit

thanks for the sexist viewpoint chad.

i can't help it that this is what happened. and i sure as hell am not sexist, catefrances.

pineapplesandwaves.

catefrances wrote:

and i see nothing wrong in not confirming it or choosing not to share it.

all you gotta do is see the hesitation on peoples faces when confronted with a baby in neutral coloured clothing to see that even from birth we are defined by what sex were born. its like oh shit its not wearing pink.... or blue... what is it? what does it matter. its healthy thats all that matters. if a baby is constantly reassured by the use of its name rather than 'arent you a clever boy' or whatever then imo that can only benefit the child. they become more than just their sex... they become themselves.

I totally support providing children with a variety of toys and clothing choices, but I don't understand hiding the child's gender. You can tell him (and others) he's a boy while allowing him to make his own choices. I'm a teacher and I know many girls who gravitate towards "boy" toys and vice versa, particularly around the age of 3-6. Boys love to play house and dress up as much as girls like to play with cars and legos. I often see little boys wearing high heels with a purse slung over their shoulder. They're curious.

Maybe through their "social experiment", they're trying to prove that when gender norms aren't forced upon children, they're as likely to gravitate towards the norms of the opposite gender as their own gender; however, as others have stated, their "social experiment" is flawed because they seem to be encouraging their son towards female "norms", while discouraging male "norms".

catefrances

chadwick wrote:

catefrances wrote:

chadwick wrote:

betcha a million bucks this was the mother's idea and the father just goes along with what mom says. one of those postnatal depression things that lasted 5 years due to stubborn bullshit

thanks for the sexist viewpoint chad.

i can't help it that this is what happened. and i sure as hell am not sexist, catefrances.

its sexist supposition in this instance.. yeah it had to be a postnatal depression thingy right cause BOTH parents couldnt have come to this decision equally. :roll: tis akin to saying a woman is 'on the rag' cause shes a bit angry about something. 'bad time of the month is it?' how does fuck off dickhead sound?*


* this is not directed at you chad.

SxDx1982

I have no problem with them hiding the kid's gender. Basically what they're doing is just making sure that the kid doesn't turn into some sort of a stereotype.
I mean, my mom let me dress and act like a boy and I turned out okay.