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I was a paying member and tried to log on 15 mins ago to upload some holiday pics for friends...no explanation of what happened, no notice given, nothing...seems to be widespread. Looks to me like "US officials" are trying to gain a monopoly on internet content. If this continues it could mean a major assault on freedom of speech and information on the net but I suppose this was always a possibility. Reminds me of public broadcasting (tv and radio) selling out to advertising and becoming something else. Other thoughts?
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could this go into court with customers suing ? if you guys paid for a service that was running illegal stuff
with out knowing,is that grounds to sue ? I'm not the sue happy type but this could piss off a lot of paying customers....or was it free ?
I was a paying member and tried to log on 15 mins ago to upload some holiday pics for friends...no explanation of what happened, no notice given, nothing...seems to be widespread. Looks to me like "US officials" are trying to gain a monopoly on internet content. If this continues it could mean a major assault on freedom of speech and information on the net but I suppose this was always a possibility. Reminds me of public broadcasting (tv and radio) selling out to advertising and becoming something else. Other thoughts?
As per usual American officials being too big for their boots and trying to police the internet. They'll fail because when one door shuts another always opens. I've downloaded loads of stuff from Megaupload and it's all been legal. New Zealand authorities when asked to arrest these guys should have said "NO". Hope fully Megaupload will sue the pants off the US authorities for this.
I was a paying member and tried to log on 15 mins ago to upload some holiday pics for friends...
That's my fucking beef with all of this bullshit. Not everything on there is illegal. You simply wanted to upload pictures for friends to see.
If a grocery store is also selling cocaine...don't they close the whole store down?
Not if it's one of their customers selling it.
megaupload doesn't upload it's own content for public consumption. It's basically a bigass ftp site. And there are already a LOT of sites like it operating. This grandstanding, making an example, is a joke.
That's my fucking beef with all of this bullshit. Not everything on there is illegal. You simply wanted to upload pictures for friends to see.
If a grocery store is also selling cocaine...don't they close the whole store down?
Not if it's one of their customers selling it.
megaupload doesn't upload it's own content for public consumption. It's basically a bigass ftp site. And there are already a LOT of sites like it operating. This grandstanding, making an example, is a joke.
Right, people should be able to steal, huh?
in reality this situation is very complicated. There is a fine line to doing nothing and doing what they did, so I understand the frustration.
If a grocery store is also selling cocaine...don't they close the whole store down?
Not if it's one of their customers selling it.
megaupload doesn't upload it's own content for public consumption. It's basically a bigass ftp site. And there are already a LOT of sites like it operating. This grandstanding, making an example, is a joke.
Right, people should be able to steal, huh?
in reality this situation is very complicated. There is a fine line to doing nothing and doing what they did, so I understand the frustration.
Did I say that? No...I poked a hole in your weak analogy. I understand that it's complicated...but I don't really understand the fine line you're talking about? Do or do not....pretty black and white to me.
Should government be allowed to confiscate your legally obtained property, when you haven't broken any laws, because of a crime completely unrelated to you?
Not if it's one of their customers selling it.
megaupload doesn't upload it's own content for public consumption. It's basically a bigass ftp site. And there are already a LOT of sites like it operating. This grandstanding, making an example, is a joke.
Right, people should be able to steal, huh?
in reality this situation is very complicated. There is a fine line to doing nothing and doing what they did, so I understand the frustration.
Did I say that? No...I poked a hole in your weak analogy. I understand that it's complicated...but I don't really understand the fine line you're talking about? Do or do not....pretty black and white to me.
Should government be allowed to confiscate your legally obtained property, when you haven't broken any laws, because of a crime completely unrelated to you?
Hahaha that's priceless.
If a grocery store knowingly allows someone to set up a stand to sell heroin to people...it's the same thing. They know what is being put up is illegal. Its there whole purpose. People are kidding themselves.
The only shocker is that they are actually trying to do something about it now.
I think they certainly have the right to confiscate it as part of an investigation. When it's over, if the person is found to not have any part in illegal activity, it would be returned...like all other investigations. I think people are mad at the wrong people.
Did I say that? No...I poked a hole in your weak analogy. I understand that it's complicated...but I don't really understand the fine line you're talking about? Do or do not....pretty black and white to me.
Should government be allowed to confiscate your legally obtained property, when you haven't broken any laws, because of a crime completely unrelated to you?
Hahaha that's priceless.
If a grocery store knowingly allows someone to set up a stand to sell heroin to people...it's the same thing. They know what is being put up is illegal. Its there whole purpose. People are kidding themselves.
The only shocker is that they are actually trying to do something about it now.
I think they certainly have the right to confiscate it as part of an investigation. When it's over, if the person is found to not have any part in illegal activity, it would be returned...like all other investigations. I think people are mad at the wrong people.
It is NOT their whole purpose, and people have stated as much in this thread. I've used these sites for work purposes as well, to share files that are too large to email.
In your grocery store analogy, yes, if a store was aware that a customer set up a heroin stand and did nothing about it, they'd be negligent.....But if some guy was just meeting people in the store to sell them the heroin without the knowledge of the store, the store would not be responsible. From my understanding, megaupload are extremely diligent in responding to copyright claims. Moreso than many similar sites. Users agree not to share copyrighted material when uploading/signing up...so yes, the wrong people are being targeted.
Not to mention the fact that, as mentioned, there are a lot of similar sites on the net....so if the basis of your argument is that 'they know what is being put up is illegal', shouldnt ALL of these sites be shut down immediately? Why is it ok to make an example of just one company when it's perfectly clear that other sites offer the exact same service, and they're allowed to continue? That's not justice, it's politics.
Not to mention the fact that, as mentioned, there are a lot of similar sites on the net....so if the basis of your argument is that 'they know what is being put up is illegal', shouldnt ALL of these sites be shut down immediately?
I would think so, and I think this is the test. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. I do find it extremely humorous that the people that steal music, movies, etc are bitching about it though.
They know what is being put up is illegal. Its there whole purpose. People are kidding themselves.
I've never downloaded anything illegal from the site. Audience recordings of shows or old PJ boots that are no longer available and linked from this website are all I've used it for. I can't speak for anyone else, but that site is why 50% of my iPod are PJ boots.
They know what is being put up is illegal. Its there whole purpose. People are kidding themselves.
I've never downloaded anything illegal from the site. Audience recordings of shows or old PJ boots that are no longer available and linked from this website are all I've used it for. I can't speak for anyone else, but that site is why 50% of my iPod are PJ boots.
Right, but they are making $ off of it right? And there was illegal activity? It'll be very interesting to see what their culpability is in all of this. Especially since they were making $ off memberships. Different animal then a completely free to use site I would think.
Let me ask some questions.
Do you think they knew it was being used for illegal activity?
If so, I'm betting that they just didn't believe they could be held accountable for it as it was always someone else uploading and downloading, they just provided the location.
Right, but they are making $ off of it right? And there was illegal activity? It'll be very interesting to see what their culpability is in all of this. Especially since they were making $ off memberships. Different animal then a completely free to use site I would think.
Let me ask some questions.
Do you think they knew it was being used for illegal activity?
If so, I'm betting that they just didn't believe they could be held accountable for it as it was always someone else uploading and downloading, they just provided the location.
I never paid anything to them. I just had a slower download speed as a result.
It all depends if they can present evidence that they reacted properly when notified of illegal content. If they can, then the whole case is bogus. You might as well arrest Google for providing links to their website if otherwise.
It all depends if they can present evidence that they reacted properly when notified of illegal content. If they can, then the whole case is bogus. You might as well arrest Google for providing links to their website if otherwise.
Right and that is what the gov't is trying to do. Which is why I think it's an interesting case.
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with out knowing,is that grounds to sue ? I'm not the sue happy type but this could piss off a lot of paying customers....or was it free ?
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That's my fucking beef with all of this bullshit. Not everything on there is illegal. You simply wanted to upload pictures for friends to see.
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If a grocery store is also selling cocaine...don't they close the whole store down?
megaupload doesn't upload it's own content for public consumption. It's basically a bigass ftp site. And there are already a LOT of sites like it operating. This grandstanding, making an example, is a joke.
Right, people should be able to steal, huh?
in reality this situation is very complicated. There is a fine line to doing nothing and doing what they did, so I understand the frustration.
Should government be allowed to confiscate your legally obtained property, when you haven't broken any laws, because of a crime completely unrelated to you?
Hahaha that's priceless.
If a grocery store knowingly allows someone to set up a stand to sell heroin to people...it's the same thing. They know what is being put up is illegal. Its there whole purpose. People are kidding themselves.
The only shocker is that they are actually trying to do something about it now.
I think they certainly have the right to confiscate it as part of an investigation. When it's over, if the person is found to not have any part in illegal activity, it would be returned...like all other investigations. I think people are mad at the wrong people.
In your grocery store analogy, yes, if a store was aware that a customer set up a heroin stand and did nothing about it, they'd be negligent.....But if some guy was just meeting people in the store to sell them the heroin without the knowledge of the store, the store would not be responsible. From my understanding, megaupload are extremely diligent in responding to copyright claims. Moreso than many similar sites. Users agree not to share copyrighted material when uploading/signing up...so yes, the wrong people are being targeted.
Not to mention the fact that, as mentioned, there are a lot of similar sites on the net....so if the basis of your argument is that 'they know what is being put up is illegal', shouldnt ALL of these sites be shut down immediately? Why is it ok to make an example of just one company when it's perfectly clear that other sites offer the exact same service, and they're allowed to continue? That's not justice, it's politics.
I would think so, and I think this is the test. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. I do find it extremely humorous that the people that steal music, movies, etc are bitching about it though.
Right, but they are making $ off of it right? And there was illegal activity? It'll be very interesting to see what their culpability is in all of this. Especially since they were making $ off memberships. Different animal then a completely free to use site I would think.
Let me ask some questions.
Do you think they knew it was being used for illegal activity?
If so, I'm betting that they just didn't believe they could be held accountable for it as it was always someone else uploading and downloading, they just provided the location.
It all depends if they can present evidence that they reacted properly when notified of illegal content. If they can, then the whole case is bogus. You might as well arrest Google for providing links to their website if otherwise.
Right and that is what the gov't is trying to do. Which is why I think it's an interesting case.
:roll: