God did help Tim win. In the sense that Tebow's sense of faith in himself and his teammates stems from his faith in God. He believes anything is possible because he is able to believe that God does the impossible...
This kid didn't ask you to like him, but his belief in God is certainly an odd reason to hate him.
Aren't there worse things to care about
also
anyone have a link to that actual questions asked in the survey?
There's a pdf file in the article, but it shows that there was only one question: Do you believe that any of Tim Tebow's success can be attributed to divine intervention? (AMONG THOSE AWARE OF TEBOW)
Also, this thread has more to do with religion and the results of the poll, which are meant to represent the sentiments of the American public. Whether they do or not, is up for debate (new thread)
Edit - one addition... I watched MoneyBall last night, great movie btw... but, in it, they showed that baseball players were often cast off if they played unconventionally. For example, they showed a pitcher who was valued very low because of his odd throwing style, but yet his statistics were through the roof. I think Tebow fits this sort of mold. He's got a very, very odd and slow throwing motion and he doesn't seem terribly accurate, but like I said above, he makes up for that in other areas.
good points. I look forward to seeing that movie too.
I don't ever think Tebow will be outstanding, but I do think he needs more time. He will improve. I saw him complete some incredible passes recently... I feel he has more potential.
tebow's strength is his ability to run and not get tackled (strong guy) ... defenses have to protect against the run which allows him to pass with less coverage ...
God did help Tim win. In the sense that Tebow's sense of faith in himself and his teammates stems from his faith in God. He believes anything is possible because he is able to believe that God does the impossible...
This kid didn't ask you to like him, but his belief in God is certainly an odd reason to hate him.
Aren't there worse things to care about
also
anyone have a link to that actual questions asked in the survey?
now for me that is a trollish statement ... it got me upset and I'm not even a Christian!
so much hate and disrespect :?
you get what you give, I guess.
Like I told my mother... "you want me to stop calling Christians on their hypocritical bullshit? Well, get them to stop spouting bullshit. Don't blame me for pointing out the hypocritical bullshit."
now for me that is a trollish statement ... it got me upset and I'm not even a Christian!
so much hate and disrespect :?
you get what you give, I guess.
Like I told my mother... "you want me to stop calling Christians on their hypocritical bullshit? Well, get them to stop spouting bullshit. Don't blame me for pointing out the hypocritical bullshit."
exactly "you get what you give" so I wonder what others think you give
with statements like that?
Calling all Christians hypocritical ...
very much generalizing, very much biased your statement,
in my opinion.
We know it is not all. Yet you insult and attempt to hurt all Christians.
Perhaps they don't deserve that.
Perhaps some are getting what they do not deserve from you.
now for me that is a trollish statement ... it got me upset and I'm not even a Christian!
so much hate and disrespect :?
you get what you give, I guess.
Like I told my mother... "you want me to stop calling Christians on their hypocritical bullshit? Well, get them to stop spouting bullshit. Don't blame me for pointing out the hypocritical bullshit."
Yeah, I know where your anger comes from here and it's justified, except I don't think it's all Christians and you have to wonder if it's Christianity or the current version we have perverted by the leadership. I don't know.
I just know that when you stoop to their level in the discussion, you won't be helping to change any minds. And I suppose that's your choice.
God did help Tim win. In the sense that Tebow's sense of faith in himself and his teammates stems from his faith in God. He believes anything is possible because he is able to believe that God does the impossible...
This kid didn't ask you to like him, but his belief in God is certainly an odd reason to hate him.
Aren't there worse things to care about
also
anyone have a link to that actual questions asked in the survey?
Well put. I hate him because of the 2010 Sugar Bowl and the Steeler game.
Calling all Christians hypocritical ...
very much generalizing, very much biased your statement,
in my opinion.
We know it is not all. Yet you insult and attempt to hurt all Christians.
Perhaps they don't deserve that.
Perhaps some are getting what they do not deserve from you.
Maybe.
Like I always snap back to that...
If you don't want to be lumped in with the Rick Santorums, do something to differentiate yourself. How about YOU do something to show me you're different. And by doing something, I don't mean getting in my face and saying "we're not ALL like that you know" and not standing up to the Rick Santorums of the world.
Calling all Christians hypocritical ...
very much generalizing, very much biased your statement,
in my opinion.
We know it is not all. Yet you insult and attempt to hurt all Christians.
Perhaps they don't deserve that.
Perhaps some are getting what they do not deserve from you.
Maybe.
Like I always snap back to that...
If you don't want to be lumped in with the Rick Santorums, do something to differentiate yourself. How about YOU do something to show me you're different. And by doing something, I don't mean getting in my face and saying "we're not ALL like that you know" and not standing up to the Rick Santorums of the world.
get it?
Are you speaking to me personally or generalizing again to all Christians?
And how do you know some Christians are not doing just that?
My point it is biased so say all Christians are hypocritical .... period
and a biased person is much more inclined to behave in a hypocritical manner.... in my opinion
I've tried to treat people well and been rewarded with things like Proposition 8, the New Hampshire Government voting to repeal and dissolve all same-sex marriages, the State of Oklahoma reinstating DADT for their national guard, laws passed in Michigan and Alabama with BROAD Christian support that say it's OK to bully a teenager to death and call him "faggot" so long as you say "but that's what God wanted me to do" and Rick Santorum riding high in the polls based only on his "arrest and jail gay people for having sex in the privacy of their own homes."
Let's maybe mention Christians picketing a community theater performance of RENT because there's a gay person with HIV in it.
I'm sick and tired of being the the one who treats others how I want to be treated while they shit on my head with abandon. Fuck. That. Shit.
Tell you what... you go attack the vast majority of Christians who support all the bullshit above and I'll stop spitting on Christians, pissing on their churches, calling their kids "victims" and asking Catholics how much of their money goes to the Pedophile Legal Defense Fund.
I've tried to treat people well and been rewarded with things like Proposition 8, the New Hampshire Government voting to repeal and dissolve all same-sex marriages, the State of Oklahoma reinstating DADT for their national guard, laws passed in Michigan and Alabama with BROAD Christian support that say it's OK to bully a teenager to death and call him "faggot" so long as you say "but that's what God wanted me to do" and Rick Santorum riding high in the polls based only on his "arrest and jail gay people for having sex in the privacy of their own homes."
Let's maybe mention Christians picketing a community theater performance of RENT because there's a gay person with HIV in it.
I'm sick and tired of being the the one who treats others how I want to be treated while they shit on my head with abandon. Fuck. That. Shit.
Tell you what... you go attack the vast majority of Christians who support all the bullshit above and I'll stop spitting on Christians, pissing on their churches, calling their kids "victims" and asking Catholics how much of their money goes to the Pedophile Legal Defense Fund.
Deal?
well I guess you are treating others the way you want to be treated
and no better than them
hate perpetrates more hate
one might think you would be better than those people just to be better
and to make a better world
well I guess you are treating others the way you want to be treated
and no better than them
This sentence makes no sense whatsoever. not even if you read it backwards in the mirror. What are you talking about?
hate perpetrates more hate
I hope you also say this to Christians who attack me and my family for kicks.
one might think you would be better than those people just to be better
and to make a better world
Good Gravy, who are you, Enya?
And why would one think I'd want to do that? To make a better world for whom? Them?
I'm sick and tired of being told to be the "better" person. I'm done with it. All it's gotten me is "treated worse."
If all my treating of people well and trying to bring on positive change with your BS hippy-dippy chicken soup for the soul has only lead to more Christians attacking me for sport, why would I want to do anything but spit on them? Hate DOES perpetuate more hate. And if they stop the hate I will stop returning it.
You get back what you give in this life... unless you're a minority, I guess.. then you get shit on and get told to "be the better person." Screw that, screw them.
And are you stopping anyone or anything with more hate? No, I don't think so.
If anything everyone shuts down in the midst of hate.
Their little rule book says "an eye for an eye."
So... they get what they give.
I know a lot of gay people and they are not so angry ... they are not hating
just the opposite
My word for people like that is "doormat."
I want you to do the same for others, otherwise our world is doomed in my opinion.
don't hang your baggage on me.
The state of the world is not my fault and I'm tired of being blamed for it. Don't tell me that if I don't lie down in the ditch and wait for them to come get me that it's my fault the world is doomed. I agree the world is doomed but it's because not enough of us fight back against the people like them...
And are you stopping anyone or anything with more hate? No, I don't think so.
If anything everyone shuts down in the midst of hate.
Their little rule book says "an eye for an eye."
So... they get what they give.
I know a lot of gay people and they are not so angry ... they are not hating
just the opposite
My word for people like that is "doormat."
I want you to do the same for others, otherwise our world is doomed in my opinion.
don't hang your baggage on me.
The state of the world is not my fault and I'm tired of being blamed for it. Don't tell me that if I don't lie down in the ditch and wait for them to come get me that it's my fault the world is doomed. I agree the world is doomed but it's because not enough of us fight back against the people like them...
my baggage... :?
You are being blamed for the state of the world :? really?
the world is doomed because people can not, will not understand each other
if you want to be a part of that so be it but know and own the fact then that you
are part of the problem
I know no 'doormats' in fact they are stronger because they can love and understand
even those who they do not agree with. There is no need to retaliate nor provoke
change comes from understanding, deaf ears fall upon the offensive.
I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
so what does that make us?
Absolutely nothing. Which is what you are about to become.
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
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There's a pdf file in the article, but it shows that there was only one question: Do you believe that any of Tim Tebow's success can be attributed to divine intervention? (AMONG THOSE AWARE OF TEBOW)
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Also, this thread has more to do with religion and the results of the poll, which are meant to represent the sentiments of the American public. Whether they do or not, is up for debate (new thread)
good points. I look forward to seeing that movie too.
I don't ever think Tebow will be outstanding, but I do think he needs more time. He will improve. I saw him complete some incredible passes recently... I feel he has more potential.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/318731/late-night-with-jimmy-fallon-tebowie
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so much hate and disrespect :?
you get what you give, I guess.
Like I told my mother... "you want me to stop calling Christians on their hypocritical bullshit? Well, get them to stop spouting bullshit. Don't blame me for pointing out the hypocritical bullshit."
with statements like that?
Calling all Christians hypocritical ...
very much generalizing, very much biased your statement,
in my opinion.
We know it is not all. Yet you insult and attempt to hurt all Christians.
Perhaps they don't deserve that.
Perhaps some are getting what they do not deserve from you.
Yeah, I know where your anger comes from here and it's justified, except I don't think it's all Christians and you have to wonder if it's Christianity or the current version we have perverted by the leadership. I don't know.
I just know that when you stoop to their level in the discussion, you won't be helping to change any minds. And I suppose that's your choice.
Well put. I hate him because of the 2010 Sugar Bowl and the Steeler game.
Maybe.
Like I always snap back to that...
If you don't want to be lumped in with the Rick Santorums, do something to differentiate yourself. How about YOU do something to show me you're different. And by doing something, I don't mean getting in my face and saying "we're not ALL like that you know" and not standing up to the Rick Santorums of the world.
get it?
Are you speaking to me personally or generalizing again to all Christians?
And how do you know some Christians are not doing just that?
My point it is biased so say all Christians are hypocritical .... period
and a biased person is much more inclined to behave in a hypocritical manner....
in my opinion
not really relevant. I didn't say that. In fact I said some just whisper "we're not all like that" and hope Rick Santorum, doesn't hear them.
hes doing to to test your faith(in your team)... just like he did with job.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
perhaps your motto is 'do unto others as they do unto you'
I don't know
but that kind of thinking makes me feel doomed about our world in general
the golden rule brings a more hopeful outcome
Not for me, it doesn't.
I've tried to treat people well and been rewarded with things like Proposition 8, the New Hampshire Government voting to repeal and dissolve all same-sex marriages, the State of Oklahoma reinstating DADT for their national guard, laws passed in Michigan and Alabama with BROAD Christian support that say it's OK to bully a teenager to death and call him "faggot" so long as you say "but that's what God wanted me to do" and Rick Santorum riding high in the polls based only on his "arrest and jail gay people for having sex in the privacy of their own homes."
Let's maybe mention Christians picketing a community theater performance of RENT because there's a gay person with HIV in it.
I'm sick and tired of being the the one who treats others how I want to be treated while they shit on my head with abandon. Fuck. That. Shit.
Tell you what... you go attack the vast majority of Christians who support all the bullshit above and I'll stop spitting on Christians, pissing on their churches, calling their kids "victims" and asking Catholics how much of their money goes to the Pedophile Legal Defense Fund.
Deal?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
and no better than them
hate perpetrates more hate
one might think you would be better than those people just to be better
and to make a better world
then to lower yourself to insults and attacks
we are doomed when this is our world
maybe God just looked away for a moment
that was an awesome close game ... loved it!
This sentence makes no sense whatsoever. not even if you read it backwards in the mirror. What are you talking about?
I hope you also say this to Christians who attack me and my family for kicks.
Good Gravy, who are you, Enya?
And why would one think I'd want to do that? To make a better world for whom? Them?
I'm sick and tired of being told to be the "better" person. I'm done with it. All it's gotten me is "treated worse."
If all my treating of people well and trying to bring on positive change with your BS hippy-dippy chicken soup for the soul has only lead to more Christians attacking me for sport, why would I want to do anything but spit on them? Hate DOES perpetuate more hate. And if they stop the hate I will stop returning it.
You get back what you give in this life... unless you're a minority, I guess.. then you get shit on and get told to "be the better person." Screw that, screw them.
And screw anyone who tells me any different.
But... what you're telling me to do is just enable people like them to continue to attack minorities for fun and profit.
How does that make the world a better place?
I mean, I guess it makes the world a bit easier for them... not sure how that's "everyone," exactly.
And are you stopping anyone or anything with more hate? No, I don't think so.
If anything everyone shuts down in the midst of hate.
I know a lot of gay people and they are not so angry ... they are not hating
just the opposite
I want people to give you
Respect
Appreciation
Forgiveness
Trust
because you deserve this
I want you to do the same for others, otherwise our world is doomed in my opinion
and no it's not easy to do ... it's damn hard for everyone.
Their little rule book says "an eye for an eye."
So... they get what they give.
My word for people like that is "doormat."
don't hang your baggage on me.
The state of the world is not my fault and I'm tired of being blamed for it. Don't tell me that if I don't lie down in the ditch and wait for them to come get me that it's my fault the world is doomed. I agree the world is doomed but it's because not enough of us fight back against the people like them...
You are being blamed for the state of the world :? really?
the world is doomed because people can not, will not understand each other
if you want to be a part of that so be it but know and own the fact then that you
are part of the problem
I know no 'doormats' in fact they are stronger because they can love and understand
even those who they do not agree with. There is no need to retaliate nor provoke
change comes from understanding, deaf ears fall upon the offensive.
one of my favorite movie lines of all time...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."