Please bring back RATIONALISM into our lives!!!
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especially on a debate forum, reason has precedence over "faith" or any other way of acquiring knowledge or expressing your opinion. We can find the truth through science and deduction of reasoning. Just because we are sometimes unable to come up with a reasonable answer right away, that doesn't mean we should automatically affix "God" to that problem.
It may not be the only path to knowledge, but it certainly is the best one. It certainly is better than "god" in that regard.
I wish that things could be like there were 10 years in the future! Because tradition is old people's and dead people's baggage. Let it go and embrace the 2nd law of thermodynamics; in a closed system chaos (entropy) will always increase, and any attempts to control chaos only INCREASE the amount of chaos in that system.
If the right would just go back to being classically liberal (like the party was in the 18th century) it would be a lot more respectable. Nobody wants to hear about your damn "moral compass" or the way of life you deem we all should be living. Live it yourself and get a shovel out, because apparently your "god" takes Tuesdays off.
It may not be the only path to knowledge, but it certainly is the best one. It certainly is better than "god" in that regard.
I wish that things could be like there were 10 years in the future! Because tradition is old people's and dead people's baggage. Let it go and embrace the 2nd law of thermodynamics; in a closed system chaos (entropy) will always increase, and any attempts to control chaos only INCREASE the amount of chaos in that system.
If the right would just go back to being classically liberal (like the party was in the 18th century) it would be a lot more respectable. Nobody wants to hear about your damn "moral compass" or the way of life you deem we all should be living. Live it yourself and get a shovel out, because apparently your "god" takes Tuesdays off.
Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
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Godfather.
see, this is the type of presumptious ignorance that gets me. What type of "baggage" is it that you assume that I have? A desire to not live in world full of mystical and ethereal explanations that are not necessary? The world and universe as it is - that's enough for me. Life is a long and strange trip and I am loving it. Based on your statement about "a risky gamble" I'm going to assume that you lean on God because you can't deal with the FEAR that is in your heart about not really knowing what happens when you die.
..... ahhhhhh sky cake.
I hear ya. The republican party has been hijacked by the "social conservatives" ... which is another term for extremely religious people that think everyone should make their personal life choices the same way. It's sad. I'm with them on only 1 topic really and they do more harm than good.
If we could get people to stop worrying about other's personal choices (get rid of social conservatives) and then hold people accountable for their own personal choices (get rid of fiscal liberals), we'd be much better off.
wow... we agree completely on something? how is that possible?
are you voting for Gary Johnson?
I am considering it.
Though I'm also considering voting for Mitt in an effort to move the republican party, if ever so slightly, away from where they are. I really wish Jon Hunstman had a chance in hell.
No one I agree with even close to 100% so I'm really just not sure.
faith and choices that's all, and the baggage you assume others have is a reflection of your own baggage...how can you have yours and others have not ?
Godfather.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Ah yes, the old "it can't hurt to believe, so why not? What if you're wrong?" argument.
Sorry if I don't want to live my life believing in something just in hopes of getting into "heaven".
I'm pretty sure that if "god" exists, (s)he won't really care about which denomination of which faith we chose to belong to, but rather would look at our overall body of work. I live my life trying to be a good person: Not because of the repercussions of judgement day, but because it's the right thing to do.
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This. I'm gonna be a good person, if there is a god, he should know that I was a good person. And if he's that petty that he doesn't think I'm worth because I didn't think there was enough evidence.. Fuck him.
you can't lie to your heart, you can't lie to God
either you believe there is one or you don't and some are not sure
enough to commit
you can lie to a religion and pretend when your heart does not agree
with its principles, you can lie to others and say you believe when you
don't
but you cannot lie to God
I have seen many non believers believe as they are passing from this world
a sudden revelation, a path complete who's to say
I have seen young atheists grow over a lifetime and with life's experience,
experience God in them and believe
I have seen people turn away from God from disappointment,
from religions they feel are lies.
But God does not lie and God is not religion
because something is impossible does not mean it is not possible
and when science can finally prove God exists
God's purpose is gone
the purpose of God is to learn faith
in my opinion
amen
what are you on, bro? you told me that I have baggage... so for a bit o' schadenfreude I reversed the accusation... now you are telling me that I shouldn't assume that you have baggage because it is a "reflection" of my own baggage?
your logic leaves a lot to be desired.
ohhhh sky cake...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55h1FO8V_3w
Godfather.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Really?! That's fascinating. How many? What did they say?
We wouldn't want to hurt our brains by actually thinking, Brian!
Same thing occurs with game-ending field goals as well.
Ya know, now that you mention it... I think I'm getting a headache. So I think I'll log off and go watch TV for a while. Just kidding!
Oh, but I do have to run!....
later gators!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
http://vi.sualize.us/view/8f555e91f8539 ... a2c41b5a6/
So sad, but true.
What's the difference between Christianity and Greek Mythology?
Judaism and Egyptian Mythology?
Islam and Mayan Mythology?
faith.
Godfather.
those religions don't have faith?
well you did not use the word mythology when you mentioned Christinity and was going to say "mythology"
is the difference but I knew how you might counter that so I just posted "faith"
but yes I am sure everybody has faith in something ..even you might have faith in something right ?
Godfather.
Got to be one of the dumbest posts ever. Only inteted to insult people of Faith- namely Christians.
1. If "the right" would only be "like the left", then the right would be "respectable". -
-Well, no shit. Replace "right" and "left" with any two opposing entities in the world, and it's still
a true statement. Way to go Capt. Obvious.
2. What "right" but "classicly liberal party of the 1700's" are you referring to?
The Whigs?! Even then, try another CENTURY.
-Since the GOP wasn't formed until the 1850's, AND founded by anti-slavery expansionists, I really have no idea what you are talking about, and it is obvious that you don't either.
Since you have stated that you feel the "classicly liberal party" is "respectable", I guess you support racism, segregation, and Jim Crow.
So just one question: Are you inherently racist, or was it taught to you by your parents?
the difference between Christianity, religion and mythology is a matter of semantics. they're all really the same thing. to the Greeks it was a religion but over time it has become myth because no one believes in it anymore. Most people refer to the Pagan religion as a myth for the same reason and I think the Catholic church has played a major part in this (the "devil" in Christianity is Pan's doppelganger).
as far as "faith" I believe in living an authentic life and a way of virtue that cannot be summarized in a paragraph, let alone a single word.