Why do police almost always shoot to kill?

maj4e

Only one side of the story to tell.

DS1119

musicismylife78 wrote:

i also think perception of police is alot like anything else, its race and socio economic related. You ask someone in Beverly Hills or the OC, their perception of police and you ask someone from Compton, or Bed Stuy or South Los Angeles their opinion of police and i'd say its going to differ wildly.

Can you police beverly hills the same way you police Compton? Come on man. Seriously? You expect peace officers to risk their own lives while trying to disarm someone who has ill intentions? Shoot the fuck and talk about it later.

Cliffy6745

Cue the fucking violins. If you don't want to get shot and killed by a cop, don't pull a weapon on them. It's really not that fucking difficult.

If I am putting my life on the line everyday to protect people and the city, and someone threatens my life, you better fucking believe I am going to take care of business and make sure I get home safe.

DS1119

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Cue the fucking violins. If you don't want to get shot and killed by a cop, don't pull a weapon on them. It's really not that fucking difficult.

If I am putting my life on the line everyday to protect people and the city, and someone threatens my life, you better fucking believe I am going to take care of business and make sure I get home safe.

+1

musicismylife78

i guess we all have our own heroes. you guys never watched the wire? i'd say its the most accurate and truthful portrayal of police ever filmed. portrays police how i view them.

jackrabbit slim

DS1119 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Cue the fucking violins. If you don't want to get shot and killed by a cop, don't pull a weapon on them. It's really not that fucking difficult.

If I am putting my life on the line everyday to protect people and the city, and someone threatens my life, you better fucking believe I am going to take care of business and make sure I get home safe.

+1

Exactly man. You can't hug a tweeked out methhead. He claims to be a pacifist so he will never understand a cop. Just be glad there are police. Because if there weren't you wouldn't be a pacifist for long.

CAVSTARR313

musicismylife78 wrote:

i guess we all have our own heroes. you guys never watched the wire? i'd say its the most accurate and truthful portrayal of police ever filmed. portrays police how i view them.

Suppose you had a child at that school. Suppose it was a real gun. Suppose the cops killing that fucking idiot saved your child's life.. Are you still gonna sing that same song? I highly fucking doubt it..

DS1119

musicismylife78 wrote:

i guess we all have our own heroes. you guys never watched the wire? i'd say its the most accurate and truthful portrayal of police ever filmed. portrays police how i view them.

Not to be a dick but you do realize that the police is the first form of protection that allows you the freedom to watch shows like the wire? Guess tomorrow we should eliminate all police squads...you can go buy a peace sign and some incense and hope for the best.

Cliffy6745

musicismylife78 wrote:

i guess we all have our own heroes. you guys never watched the wire? i'd say its the most accurate and truthful portrayal of police ever filmed. portrays police how i view them.

The Wire? Really dude? Yeah, I watched it, probably my favorite show ever, actually going through it for a second time right now. I would love to know what time you have spent in the hood to support these views.

And if you want to relate it to the wire, if I saw the shit they did on a daily basis, including a female colleague getting shot ruthlessly, you better fucking believe I would be trigger happy too.

photogirlliz

musicismylife78 wrote:

Bad police arent the exception. they are the rule. police are brutal by nature.

Wow...making a blanket statement about an entire profession based on cases of abuse (cases which are highlighted in the media, of course...because "good cop" just doesn't make as interesting of a story) is incredibly unfounded. If you honestly believe this, do you also believe all teachers sleep with their students? All priests molest children? All coaches rape? All accountants steal money? Etc... I think doing this is extremely similar to the profiling you are complaining about police doing, right? You are stereotyping and basing your opinion on an entire group off of the fact that there are some "bad apples" in the bunch.

SatansFuton

musicismylife78 wrote:

SatansFuton wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

Bad police arent the exception. they are the rule. police are brutal by nature.

OK, so what happened, you get a ticket today? I've met plenty of nice cops and know a few cops. As with anything, you're going to have assholes and people who aren't assholes. There isn't a "rule" or "nature" that covers all of them. That's just silly.

youve been on this board awhile. my stance on issues like capitalism, greed,violence, police and war havent changed since i joined in 2003.

And its not like police are this paragon of good. the laundry list of past and current grievances people have against police is too long to detail here, but youve got curruption, taking drugs and money from suspects and not reporting it to superiors, the long and sordid racist and homophobic and sexist culture inside police departments nationwide including the collusion of the the KKK and the police in the south, racial profiling and outright murder in the cases of Amadou Dialo, and the rape of abner louima, Rodney King, false arrests, sketchy tactics in confession rooms, the whole mentality of shoot first ask questions later. And yeah its not all the police departments fault, its also the governments, state and local, and the beaurocracy of it all.

people legitimately can and do have numerous grievances against the Police.

I'm aware of that, but that doesn't make ALL cops brutal by nature.

Also, the thread title is VERY misleading, and VERY untrue. As has been pointed out, you're just hearing about the ones that go South. It's sort of like asking "Why do all traffic stops end in a high speed chase?" just because the only traffic stops you hear about on the news are the ones that end up that way. Not all cops shoot first and ask questions later, or shoot to kill.

If you have something against cops, or whatever, that's fine. I don't have THAT much love for them as a whole. But it's pretty silly to make such broad generalizations, and I think you know that.

South of Seattle

photogirlliz wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

Bad police arent the exception. they are the rule. police are brutal by nature.

Wow...making a blanket statement about an entire profession based on cases of abuse (cases which are highlighted in the media, of course...because "good cop" just doesn't make as interesting of a story) is incredibly unfounded. If you honestly believe this, do you also believe all teachers sleep with their students? All priests molest children? All coaches rape? All accountants steal money? Etc... I think doing this is extremely similar to the profiling you are complaining about police doing, right? You are stereotyping and basing your opinion on an entire group off of the fact that there are some "bad apples" in the bunch.

+1

Although I somewhat agree with disarming the suspect instead of shooting to kill whenever possible. There was and issue in Seattle recently when the cops shot a Native American woodcarver because he was wandering around with his knife out. The cops shot him when he didn't put the knife down after several verbal commands to drop the weapon. After the fact they found out the guy was deaf.

Comparing reality to fiction is pointless. I loved the Wire too, but that is not real life. It's real life told through art.

DS1119

South of Seattle wrote:

Comparing reality to fiction is pointless.

What!!! You mean all doctors aren't like House????

CAVSTARR313

DS1119 wrote:

South of Seattle wrote:

Comparing reality to fiction is pointless.

What!!! You mean all doctors aren't like House????

Wait, what do you mean boxing is nothing like the Rocky films?

South of Seattle

DS1119 wrote:

South of Seattle wrote:

Comparing reality to fiction is pointless.

What!!! You mean all doctors aren't like House????

Nope, they're more like Jack from Lost. :ugeek:

DS1119

Cavstarr313 wrote:

Wait, what do you mean boxing is nothing like the Rocky films?

Come on!! The next thing you'll tell me is the show The Real World is nothing like the real world?? :shock:

photogirlliz

DS1119 wrote:

Cavstarr313 wrote:

Wait, what do you mean boxing is nothing like the Rocky films?

Come on!! The next thing you'll tell me is the show The Real World is nothing like the real world?? :shock:

tybird

Sgt. Martaugh said to shoot 'em in the leg where you could ask them questions, but Riggs always seem to shoot to kill..... :ugeek:

The Juggler

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SPEEDY MCCREADY

The Juggler wrote:

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