Just goes to prove.....Guns save lives

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http://gma.yahoo.com/okla-woman-shoots- ... 06413.html

A young Oklahoma mother shot and killed an intruder to protect her 3-month-old baby on New Year's Eve, less than a week after the baby's father died of cancer.
Sarah McKinley says that a week earlier a man named Justin Martin dropped by on the day of her husband's funeral, claiming that he was a neighbor who wanted to say hello. The 18-year-old Oklahoma City area woman did not let him into her home that day.

On New Year's Eve Martin returned with another man, Dustin Stewart, and this time was armed with a 12-inch hunting knife. The two soon began trying to break into McKinley's home.

As one of the men was going from door to door outside her home trying to gain entry, McKinley called 911 and grabbed her 12-gauge shotgun.

McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO that she quickly got her 12 gauge, went into her bedroom and got a pistol, put the bottle in the baby's mouth and called 911.

"I've got two guns in my hand -- is it okay to shoot him if he comes in this door?" the young mother asked the 911 dispatcher. "I'm here by myself with my infant baby, can I please get a dispatcher out here immediately?"

The 911 dispatcher confirmed with McKinley that the doors to her home were locked as she asked again if it was okay to shoot the intruder if he were to come through her door.

"I can't tell you that you can do that but you do what you have to do to protect your baby," the dispatcher told her. McKinley was on the phone with 911 for a total of 21 minutes.

When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife, the teen mom shot and killed the 24-year-old. Police are calling the shooting justified.

"You're allowed to shoot an unauthorized person that is in your home. The law provides you the remedy, and sanctions the use of deadly force," Det. Dan Huff of the Blanchard police said.

Stewart soon turned himself in to police.

McKinley said that she was at home alone with her newborn that night because her husband just died of cancer on Christmas Day.

"I wouldn't have done it, but it was my son," McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO. "It's not an easy decision to make, but it was either going to be him or my son. And it wasn't going to be my son. There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child."
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  • Poor girl... 18 and already a mother, already buried her husband to cancer, and now has been forced to choose between killing another human or being violently killed herself...

    This world, sometimes....
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Poor girl... 18 and already a mother, already buried her husband to cancer, and now has been forced to choose between killing another human or being violently killed herself...

    This world, sometimes....

    You and I never agree on anything, but we agree here.
  • Poor girl... 18 and already a mother, already buried her husband to cancer, and now has been forced to choose between killing another human or being violently killed herself...

    This world, sometimes....

    You and I never agree on anything, but we agree here.


    Do we not?

    Well, I am glad that we agree on this one. There are stories like this every day, in every city it seems, and it just keeps happening, and happening...

    so sad.
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    CH156378 wrote:


    saw that after i posted :(

    different story tho :)
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  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    81 wrote:
    CH156378 wrote:


    saw that after i posted :(

    different story tho :)

    just messing with you man. you always pull that shit in aet :lol:
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
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    CH156378 wrote:
    81 wrote:
    CH156378 wrote:


    saw that after i posted :(

    different story tho :)

    just messing with you man. you always pull that shit in aet :lol:


    :|:lol::lol:
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Poor girl... 18 and already a mother, already buried her husband to cancer, and now has been forced to choose between killing another human or being violently killed herself...

    This world, sometimes....

    You and I never agree on anything, but we agree here.


    Do we not?

    Well, I am glad that we agree on this one. There are stories like this every day, in every city it seems, and it just keeps happening, and happening...

    so sad.

    as clint eastwoods character in unforgiven said.. its a hell of a thing killing a man sadly, as was the case here... sometimes its necessary.
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  • oona leftoona left Posts: 1,677
    Can you imagine how long those 21 minutes she was on the phone with 911 felt? Good lord.

    Justified killing indeed.
  • 21 MINUTES!!!!

    What were these tools? Amateurs! They deserved to get shot for taking that much time to find a way in.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

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    21 minutes??!!??

    When seconds count, the police are only minutes (21 or more) away.
  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    Read about this...Fucking awesome. AWESOME! So proud of her.
    And if guns are not for you then fine but dont ask me for help if the time comes and you need one.
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  • Read about this...Fucking awesome. AWESOME! So proud of her.
    And if guns are not for you then fine but dont ask me for help if the time comes and you need one.

    Soooooooooooooo, you don't have to waste my tax dollars phoning the police if you have a gun? You can just take care of things. I think I get it.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • Read about this...Fucking awesome. AWESOME! So proud of her.
    And if guns are not for you then fine but dont ask me for help if the time comes and you need one.

    I don't know, man. I don't think stuff like this is something that should be glorified. It is unfortunate that she was put in a position such as this in the first place, to have to defend herself. I'm glad she did defend herself and I feel her actions were justified, but I don't know if this is something I would call "fucking awesome".
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Read about this...Fucking awesome. AWESOME! So proud of her.
    And if guns are not for you then fine but dont ask me for help if the time comes and you need one.

    I don't know, man. I don't think stuff like this is something that should be glorified. It is unfortunate that she was put in a position such as this in the first place, to have to defend herself. I'm glad she did defend herself and I feel her actions were justified, but I don't know if this is something I would call "fucking awesome".

    I was playing tug of war on this one.. I agree it shouldnt be glorified, but I'm happy to think that maybe there are some potential thugs out there that might hear this story and think twice about breaking into someones house that they might consider defenseless. Frankly, i'm surprised anyone would break into a house these days with the firepower that so many people seem to have!
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    Guns don't save lives, people save lives. ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • aennilaennil Posts: 415
    Does this story prove that guns have lifesaving abilities? -one life seems too be lost.... and the poor girl is now a murder.
    Terrible story
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    aennil wrote:
    Does this story prove that guns have lifesaving abilities? -one life seems too be lost.... and the poor girl is now a murder.
    Terrible story

    a murder ? :lol: try self defense....and alive to care for her family.

    Godfather.
  • aennilaennil Posts: 415
    Godfather. wrote:
    aennil wrote:
    Does this story prove that guns have lifesaving abilities? -one life seems too be lost.... and the poor girl is now a murder.
    Terrible story

    a murder ? :lol: try self defense....and alive to care for her family.

    Godfather.


    Thank you Godfather. ;) -i need to practice on my english skills, it seems...
  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    aennil wrote:
    Does this story prove that guns have lifesaving abilities? -one life seems too be lost.... and the poor girl is now a murder.
    Terrible story

    she's alive and unharmed. her kid is alive and unharmed. a douche bag is no more.

    sounds like a win/win/win
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    aennil wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    aennil wrote:
    Does this story prove that guns have lifesaving abilities? -one life seems too be lost.... and the poor girl is now a murder.
    Terrible story

    a murder ? :lol: try self defense....and alive to care for her family.

    Godfather.


    Thank you Godfather. ;) -i need to practice on my english skills, it seems...


    :lol: ask anybody here I'm no english/spelling teacher. but check this out...seems to be a lot of this making the news lately.
    http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/90-year-o ... hpt=ju_bn6

    Godfather.
  • GUNS DO SAVE LIVES in a country like ours! Its a big country and there are MANY bad people here......the one thing we all know......is that there are 80 million armed people who will defend their lives and freedoms! We also know that there is hope when bad people have bad thoughts!

    If you take away the good peoples guns....the bad people will be licking their chopps!!!!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    GUNS DO SAVE LIVES in a country like ours! Its a big country and there are MANY bad people here......the one thing we all know......is that there are 80 million armed people who will defend their lives and freedoms! We also know that there is hope when bad people have bad thoughts!

    If you take away the good peoples guns....the bad people will be licking their chopps!!!!


    your country must be fucked three ways to sunday cause her in my country we dont have guns and the bad people here arent exactly licking their chops... and hell we were founded as a penal colony so...


    sure there is crime involving guns but its not a free for all like you intimate it would collapse into in regards to your country. though perhaps your country is just less civilised hence the need to be armed... oh the paradox. ;)
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  • GUNS DO SAVE LIVES in a country like ours! Its a big country and there are MANY bad people here......the one thing we all know......is that there are 80 million armed people who will defend their lives and freedoms! We also know that there is hope when bad people have bad thoughts!

    If you take away the good peoples guns....the bad people will be licking their chopps!!!!


    your country must be fucked three ways to sunday cause her in my country we dont have guns and the bad people here arent exactly licking their chops... and hell we were founded as a penal colony so...


    sure there is crime involving guns but its not a free for all like you intimate it would collapse into in regards to your country. though perhaps your country is just less civilised hence the need to be armed... oh the paradox. ;)

    All I know is I feel a lot safer where individuals can own firearms then I do with our megalomaniac "leaders" and the power they have at their disposal. The last people I want telling me what I can and cannot do are these power mongers we let run things.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    GUNS DO SAVE LIVES in a country like ours! Its a big country and there are MANY bad people here......the one thing we all know......is that there are 80 million armed people who will defend their lives and freedoms! We also know that there is hope when bad people have bad thoughts!

    If you take away the good peoples guns....the bad people will be licking their chopps!!!!


    your country must be fucked three ways to sunday cause her in my country we dont have guns and the bad people here arent exactly licking their chops... and hell we were founded as a penal colony so...


    sure there is crime involving guns but its not a free for all like you intimate it would collapse into in regards to your country. though perhaps your country is just less civilised hence the need to be armed... oh the paradox. ;)
    Same here, we don't have the attachment to guns that the USA does, yet the bad guy's aren't licking their chops.

    Hmm...
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  • Poor girl... 18 and already a mother, already buried her husband to cancer, and now has been forced to choose between killing another human or being violently killed herself...

    This world, sometimes....
    True, and this is why i support responsible gun owners having the right to defend themselves.

  • All I know is I feel a lot safer where individuals can own firearms then I do with our megalomaniac "leaders" and the power they have at their disposal. The last people I want telling me what I can and cannot do are these power mongers we let run things.

    I'm just happy that I live in a country where we don't feel that handguns are a god-given right. I still can't fathom how Americans will quietly surrender their 1st amendment rights in the name of security but will scream bloody murder as soon as somebody suggests regulating firearms. Perhaps the "power mongers" you speak of are the byproduct of a culture obsessed with violence.

    Still, I don't have a problem with Americans owing guns. It's your country. For many of us non-Americans, you're gun-culture is inherently alien. It's probably not something you could understand, but I feel safer in a world where guns are the exception rather than the norm.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... -colorado/

    A 3 year old shot a 5 year old... Any lives saved here?
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