methadone.

chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
edited October 2012 in All Encompassing Trip
http://youtu.be/vHOjxI0P-aY

anyone know anything about this drug? my doctor just gave me a scrip for it. i hear methadone in a pj song here and i understand heroin addicts use it too overcome heroin addiction.

full of opiates these days, that's me, front and center. percocet and methadone. this outta be interesting.

the good news is i am seeing a new knee specialist next month. maybe get myself a metal knee or two.

anyone?
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  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    I work with heroin addicts on meth programmes for reduction,know a lot about it's effects.
    “There should be a place where only the things you want to happen, happen”
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    such as?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    positives or negatives?
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    everything you know about it, both positive and negative.

    thank you.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Its a "crutch" drug. People hide behind the true meaning of their physical pain and rather than deal with the pain they keep switching from one pain killer to the next. I assume this is at least drug number 6 to deal with you "pain".
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,861
    Fuck that Chad. Ask your Doc if he has a plan to get you free from all these narcs when your knees get fixed. BAd road my friend. seek other alternatives before you head down this path.
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  • ZiggyStarZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    My bf's uncle smashed his leg in a car accident 25 years ago and has been on full on painkillers his whole life. He was on methadone for a period (years) but had all sorts of problems with it becoming addictive and weaning off etc. Turned him into a fuckhead too....just like other certain drugs he takes. We lived with him for 5 months and for 4 months he was perfect....started a brand new painkiller and literally overnight he turned into the worst person in the world to live with....2 weeks later we were out of there. Apparently he was worse on methadone. Fuck living with that.

    Are there other options?
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  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    edited December 2011
    The side effects you should have been told about prior to accepting to use it include,but are not exclusive too,dizziness,nausea,difficulty peeing,constipation,drowsiness,contentment,warmth,vomiting,skin rashes,increased sweating,flushed skin,vision problems,lowered sex drive,inability to perform sexually,missed periods,weight gain,loss of appetite,tooth decay,abdominal pain,mood changes,hives,itching,rash,seizures.

    Signs of possible overdose are confusion,low blood pressure,weak pulse,muscle spasms,difficulty breathing,bluish skin,bluish fingernails,bluish lips,clammy skin,small pupils,passing out,coma

    You must take it as prescribed with no deviation,if you deviate you will gouch and be unable to function,brush your teeth as soon as possible after you have taken it as it will rot your teeth,even the sugar free stuff.

    Keep it well away from kids,ask for a medi box with lock to keep it in.

    Try not to use any other drugs with it,grass etc,this can be a huge challenge as people on meth's usually need the calming affect grass can have,but in truth it just adds to any possible addiction that may occur.

    In all honesty I'd be trying any other alternate therapy if it's for pain,the toxicology of meth is far more dangerous than heroin,I am sorry to say that in 20 years working with addicts many become more addicted to meth than they do to heroin.

    I have info about alternative pain relief/CBT/Transpersonal for pain.



    That is some of what I know,there is more but your doctor must have discussed this with prior to prescribing,no?

    So sorry .. Anything else ...ask
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  • ZiggyStarZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    stargirl69 wrote:
    lowered sex drive,inability to perform sexually

    No Chad....NOOOOOO!!!!!
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  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    stargirl69 wrote:
    lowered sex drive,inability to perform sexually

    No Chad....NOOOOOO!!!!!


    A heroin/meth user has no interest in anything but when they can next take their meds,never mind sex
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  • voidofmanvoidofman Posts: 4,009
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    stargirl69 wrote:
    lowered sex drive,inability to perform sexually

    No Chad....NOOOOOO!!!!!

    Stay away from it!! Faaaar awaaay!!
  • stargirl69 wrote:
    missed periods
    :wtf:
    This is where I'm saying "No, Chad, NOOOOO!"
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  • mikalinamikalina Posts: 7,206
    chadwick wrote:
    http://youtu.be/vHOjxI0P-aY

    anyone know anything about this drug? my doctor just gave me a scrip for it. i hear methadone in a pj song here and i understand heroin addicts use it too overcome heroin addiction.

    full of opiates these days, that's me, front and center. percocet and methadone. this outta be interesting.

    the good news is i am seeing a new knee specialist next month. maybe get myself a metal knee or two.

    anyone?


    what kind of a doctor are you going to ???!!!!

    You already take several pain pills and now Methadone.

    I agree - DO NOT TAKE THIS DRUG

    btw - all of this information you can look up yourself on the internet.
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Its a "crutch" drug. People hide behind the true meaning of their physical pain and rather than deal with the pain they keep switching from one pain killer to the next. I assume this is at least drug number 6 to deal with you "pain".

    So if you fuck up your knees or something rather than take medicine you'll just meditate on the true meaning of it, and won't have any "pain" I take it. The dude has knee problems, cut him some slack. I don't know what he should be taking, or if he should take this (I thought it was just for heroin addicts) but no need to be condescending.

    By the way chad, what exactly is wrong with your knees?
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  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    edited December 2011
    Its a "crutch" drug. People hide behind the true meaning of their physical pain and rather than deal with the pain they keep switching from one pain killer to the next. I assume this is at least drug number 6 to deal with you "pain".

    So if you fuck up your knees or something rather than take medicine you'll just meditate on the true meaning of it, and won't have any "pain" I take it. The dude has knee problems, cut him some slack. I don't know what he should be taking, or if he should take this (I thought it was just for heroin addicts) but no need to be condescending.

    By the way chad, what exactly is wrong with your knees?


    It's not just for heroin addicts,far from it,it is usually the very last option for various pains,fibromyalgia,chronic joint pain,but all it does is knock the pain into oblivion,when and if a pain patient stops using meths the pain returns,it is best to be given the support to treat it long term with less destructive effects.

    I would be very worried if anyone I knew took meth for pain relief
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    stargirl69 wrote:


    It's not just for heroin addicts,far from it,it is usually the very last option for various pains,fibromyalgia,chronic joint pain,but all it does is knock the pain into oblivion,when and if a pain patient stops using meths the pain returns,it is best to be given the support to treat it long term with less destructive effects.

    Well, sounds like he's going to a specialist and might get some "metal knees" or whatever, so it sounds like this isn't meant to be a long term plan.
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    stargirl69 wrote:


    It's not just for heroin addicts,far from it,it is usually the very last option for various pains,fibromyalgia,chronic joint pain,but all it does is knock the pain into oblivion,when and if a pain patient stops using meths the pain returns,it is best to be given the support to treat it long term with less destructive effects.

    Well, sounds like he's going to a specialist and might get some "metal knees" or whatever, so it sounds like this isn't meant to be a long term plan.

    I hope for Chad's sake this will be the case.
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  • mikalinamikalina Posts: 7,206
    I read that he is going to see a knee specialist and hopefully will get his knees fixed.

    Maybe going on methadone is just temporary....
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    chadwick wrote:
    http://youtu.be/vHOjxI0P-aY

    anyone know anything about this drug? my doctor just gave me a scrip for it. i hear methadone in a pj song here and i understand heroin addicts use it too overcome heroin addiction.

    full of opiates these days, that's me, front and center. percocet and methadone. this outta be interesting.

    the good news is i am seeing a new knee specialist next month. maybe get myself a metal knee or two.

    anyone?


    I don't have any experience with the drug but I would say trust your instincts and if your instincts are making you question this prescription seek a second opnion from another physician. I have a good friend who is a doctor and he has told me that a good doctor will never be offended if a patient seeks another opinion. Not everything in the medical world is cut and dried so the more educated input you can get, the better decision you can make for yourself. Best of luck.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Fuck that Chad. Ask your Doc if he has a plan to get you free from all these narcs when your knees get fixed. BAd road my friend. seek other alternatives before you head down this path.

    this

    no amount of opiates is going to solve your knee pain...if the pain is that bad, get them replaced...in the interim, grin and bear the pain...it beats becoming (possibly) a junkie
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    norm wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Fuck that Chad. Ask your Doc if he has a plan to get you free from all these narcs when your knees get fixed. BAd road my friend. seek other alternatives before you head down this path.

    this

    no amount of opiates is going to solve your knee pain...if the pain is that bad, get them replaced...in the interim, grin and bear the pain...it beats becoming (possibly) a junkie

    Grin and bear it is not always a workable strategy. Maybe he has a job and has to make it through the day and function. Pain can be so debilitating that sometimes you can't do anything at all except lie there. I hope it all works out for Chadwick but we are not in his body and don't know what kind of pain he is dealing with. And knee replacement is thousands of dollars, plus being out of commission and needing a lot of help. I believe his own mother is quite ill - who is going to help him if he is out of commission while getting knee replacements? Chadwick I hope you can get some safe pain meds.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,717
    Chalk another one down down for the don't fuck with it camp if you can help it. I don't want come off as offending anyones profession and my reasons are not from a pain related perspective but my girlfriends brother is a junkie and this shit does nothing but give him something different to get high on for a couple weeks and pretend he's getting clean. I haven't seen any good come from it.
  • IMO the dr is prescribing the methadone cause he wants him off the opiates. They would not prescribe him both at once. It could kill him. Methadone is a substitute for opiates. It's to help get him off of them. Ask for suboxin, it's less evil so to speak than methadone. You start taking that and your gonna need it just as bad. You miss taking it your gonna be hurting.
    Methadone does nothing for pain. It's for withdraw of opiates.
    Just, not enough.
    I need more.
    Nothing seems to satisfy.
    I said, I dont want it.
    I just need it.
    To breathe, to feel, to know Im alive.
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    no real difference between now and my days and nights without.

    one 5milligram rectangle twice daily.
    512s - the grand prarie and moving numbness band
    this being displayed at 5-325 intersection
    where oceans crossed do sing
    this the war hammers
    the battle table
    one single task
    all are one in the uphilled

    none will ever win
    the crown stays put
    where axes grind cartilage, bone and ligament tying muscle down
    with twisted up shocked jolts
    and in full cavity through the exploding patella-patellar and lonely tibia that has been shifted...
    all of which have rushed down to the ending of one's own
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    chadwick wrote:
    no real difference between now and my days and nights without.

    one 5milligram rectangle twice daily.
    512s - the grand prarie and moving numbness band
    this being displayed at 5-325 intersection
    where oceans crossed do sing
    this the war hammers
    the battle table
    one single task
    all are one in the uphilled

    none will ever win
    the crown stays put
    where axes grind cartilage, bone and ligament tying muscle down
    with twisted up shocked jolts
    and in full cavity through the exploding patella-patellar and lonely tibia that has been shifted...
    all of which have rushed down to the ending of one's own


    Chad, you know i love drugs, but this is one of those i would pause at, just keep being aware and honest with your Doctor, tell the addict inside to F off, good luck.
  • mikalinamikalina Posts: 7,206
    chadwick wrote:
    no real difference between now and my days and nights without.

    one 5milligram rectangle twice daily.
    512s - the grand prarie and moving numbness band
    this being displayed at 5-325 intersection
    where oceans crossed do sing
    this the war hammers
    the battle table
    one single task
    all are one in the uphilled

    none will ever win
    the crown stays put
    where axes grind cartilage, bone and ligament tying muscle down
    with twisted up shocked jolts
    and in full cavity through the exploding patella-patellar and lonely tibia that has been shifted...
    all of which have rushed down to the ending of one's own


    Chad, you know i love drugs, but this is one of those i would pause at, just keep being aware and honest with your Doctor, tell the addict inside to F off, good luck.


    I agree ...
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  • rollingsrollings Posts: 7,124
    chadwick wrote:
    no real difference between now and my days and nights without.

    one 5milligram rectangle twice daily.
    512s - the grand prarie and moving numbness band
    this being displayed at 5-325 intersection
    where oceans crossed do sing
    this the war hammers
    the battle table
    one single task
    all are one in the uphilled

    none will ever win
    the crown stays put
    where axes grind cartilage, bone and ligament tying muscle down
    with twisted up shocked jolts
    and in full cavity through the exploding patella-patellar and lonely tibia that has been shifted...
    all of which have rushed down to the ending of one's own

    was this supposed to be in poetry?
  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    IMO the dr is prescribing the methadone cause he wants him off the opiates. They would not prescribe him both at once. It could kill him. Methadone is a substitute for opiates. It's to help get him off of them. Ask for suboxin, it's less evil so to speak than methadone. You start taking that and your gonna need it just as bad. You miss taking it your gonna be hurting.
    Methadone does nothing for pain. It's for withdraw of opiates.

    This is a cause and effect situation.

    Methadone is predominately used to break the cycle of heroin addiction,the principle is that it will be substituted and take the addict out of the life cycle of scoring heroin,removing them from the addicts world of only knowing other addicts,criminal activity and any other activity that sustains their addiction.

    But methadone is a synthetic opioid,a transference from one opiate to another,the difference in theory being the methadone will be monitored by the medic who prescribed,the patient will be seen regularly and the long term plan will be gradual reduction over time.

    It is a highly effect treatment for chronic pain,but this only treats the effect of the pain the patient is experiencing,sooner or later the cause of the pain needs to be treated with a long term plan.

    The concern is that the patient will then become addicted to the methadone before the long term pain cause is identified and treated.

    Long term pain whether is be emotional,cognitive or physical needs to be dealt with,if it is not all that happens is the patient is further addicted with no break in cycle.

    Methadone addicts are just as sad,beaten and destroyed as heroin addicts and there is still significant death rates,at least in Britain,from Methadone overdose than there is from street heroin overdose.

    Consider being pro-active in your desire to be pain/drug free rather than relying on the medical profession handing out sickly sweet green liquid that will put you in a bubble where you can't hear,feel,see or think.

    This is not a poetic option for anyone who wants to one day be drug and/or pain free,seriously it is not to be messed with.
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    i am sorry. i find it (some y'all) all so very light and comical. y'all... as in whomever whichever and then some


    what the fuck ever.
    nothing at all is what is your almost accurate knowledge is. a bit of professionalism mixed with something unguided without agony and the continuance of too do so.

    not one individual or mass group can be more brutal to take the pain, none and never. but self does go there and in unrest erect my home and stand.

    your little pills, your little problems mean almost nothing next to what is endless and in paradise or gutter. i actually smirk at all of it and can't quite laugh at the bullshit lived across the bit of time we do have...or not.

    functioning lasts in short not ever in length none the matter but all of it matters
    what matters?

    it is like that of a dove and a stick of dynamite as one unit
    this being how i am as living and always been
    nothing is the matter here
    the roadside signs tell me so

    i want to see you beautiful people eat a handfull of opiates for your debilitating grind
    in that which you much dwell
    and swim two miles only after northern lights takes you away and home
    then go to the forest and chop with axe the woodpile
    walk with a cane having 9 girlfriends, one for everyday the week.

    what is weakness?
    the exact opposite of where i stand

    your pills make me laugh
    but i am grateful for the help in which they are made for
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    my doctor asked, "chad, how's the pain today?" my reply, "i hurt like a real bastard as always, Doc"
    "and it isn't just the knee(s), my entire body has pain."
    "pain from living, Doc" "car and motorcycle wrecks, fighting. i've had a hard life"
    "it hurts worst when lying down at night, my knee explodes, shooting jolts of torture down the entire length of my leg."

    Doctor... i am prescribing you medication for extended relief. it is a long acting pain reliever. (and i agree...i think we finally found a good working team of pain relievers in methadone combined with percocet) (i think this'll work.) (all i need now is a couple knees)

    so i put his words in my own thoughts... methadone must be a longer lasting pain reliever than percocet and maybe i'll be getting off percocet?

    which i have cut my percocet use done by half well before getting this methadone stuff and without the doctor even knowing and asking me too do so. i went from eating around 8 percocets to eating 3 or 4, all by myself with zero complications and without drug rehab meetings. and as always swam 13 miles a day. :twisted:

    and i stopped taking my speed pills cold turkey. haven't had the Mine-meds in weeks. again cold turkey.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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