GOP's 10 Most Extreme Attacks On a Woman's Right to Choose..

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    _ wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    _ wrote:
    The Hyde Amendment to the annual Health & Human Services appropriations bill has explicitly forbid the use of federal funds to pay for abortions since 1976. Since 1993, the only exceptions have been in cases of rape/incest or when abortion is necessary to save the life of the mother.
    then why do republicans in congress repeatedly say that government, and more specifically the federal funding of planned parenthood goes directly to funding abortions??

    i am guessing it is the usual fearmongering and self righteous fact distorting bullcrap that they always spew.

    Exactly. They're like political trolls; they think if they repeat the same bullshit loudly & often enough people will actually believe it - and, sadly, they're right. :(
    that is why people like us exist. to tell people that what they have been told is wrong. unfortunately our voices are not loud enough...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    How are abortions funded in our country?

    Only by the private sector then?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    pandora wrote:
    How are abortions funded in our country?

    Only by the private sector then?
    people pay for them???
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    you can be pro choice and not pro abortion. pro means in favor of or in support of. i strongly support the right to choose, thus i am pro choice. i do not like the procedure that is abortion, but i realize that as long as there are human beings there will be abortions. why not make it as safe as possible so that women don't have to go to a back alley place for an abortion or have to resort to throwing themselves down a staircase to end the pregnancy?

    if i were in the situation where i got a woman pregnant i would want her to keep the baby. that is the selfish side of me. i mean, that child is half mine, since i contributed to creating it. but i realize that it is not my body that has to carry that baby and i can not be selfish in that situation.

    i strongly support the law that allows women the choice to decide what happens within her own body. and i strongly believe that any changes to that law and any restrictions on women's rights relating to their reproductive health care would be a huge step backwards for this country.
    that is not selfish at all ...

    what is selfish is a woman not giving up 9 months out of the 900 of her lifetime
    9 months to give life to another human being

    this a choice she will make and may regret one day
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    How are abortions funded in our country?

    Only by the private sector then?
    people pay for them???
    not the clinic I had experience with in the past decade

    the women could not afford them they were on aid
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    pandora wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    you can be pro choice and not pro abortion. pro means in favor of or in support of. i strongly support the right to choose, thus i am pro choice. i do not like the procedure that is abortion, but i realize that as long as there are human beings there will be abortions. why not make it as safe as possible so that women don't have to go to a back alley place for an abortion or have to resort to throwing themselves down a staircase to end the pregnancy?

    if i were in the situation where i got a woman pregnant i would want her to keep the baby. that is the selfish side of me. i mean, that child is half mine, since i contributed to creating it. but i realize that it is not my body that has to carry that baby and i can not be selfish in that situation.

    i strongly support the law that allows women the choice to decide what happens within her own body. and i strongly believe that any changes to that law and any restrictions on women's rights relating to their reproductive health care would be a huge step backwards for this country.
    that is not selfish at all ...

    what is selfish is a woman not giving up 9 months out of the 900 of her lifetime
    9 months to give life to another human being

    this a choice she will make and may regret one day

    the thing is, it is not 9 months she is "giving up".

    if it is an unplanned or unwanted child it is the rest of her life she is going to sacrifice to nurture, care for, and raise that child.

    unless it is a wanted and planned for child. in that case we would not even be discissing abortion or women's reprodctive healh and rights..
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Just a side note: Based on the language used to describe the top ten attacks, no liberal should have a problem with a conservative using a term like "death panels".

    Not that I would use either, but just calling a spade a spade.
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    the thing is, it is not 9 months she is "giving up".

    if it is an unplanned or unwanted child it is the rest of her life she is going to sacrifice to nurture, care for, and raise that child.

    unless it is a wanted and planned for child. in that case we would not even be discissing abortion or women's reprodctive healh and rights..
    You make is sound soooooo bad......
    You should probably have a child before you go throwing around adivce on the "challenges" of having one.
    You make it sound as if its not worth it...
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    Blockhead wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    the thing is, it is not 9 months she is "giving up".

    if it is an unplanned or unwanted child it is the rest of her life she is going to sacrifice to nurture, care for, and raise that child.

    unless it is a wanted and planned for child. in that case we would not even be discissing abortion or women's reprodctive healh and rights..
    You make is sound soooooo bad......
    You should probably have a child before you go throwing around adivce on the "challenges" of having one.
    You make it sound as if its not worth it...
    i will have one some day. when my gal and i are ready for it.

    and if the woman is in poverty or if the child is unwanted, or if the mother is an unmarried teenager it is a sacrifice. do you have evidence to the contrary?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    I think the social issues will be the downfall of the GOP as we approach a society where more people get involved and more people see government for what it was intended to be and what it actual has become.

    The attacks on abortion rights are the same thing. I understand the crusade to want to save babies...even the ugly ones are cute...

    as far as publically funded abortions...they certainly take a side route to get there...but if the federal government gives money to a clinic program, even if it is specifically designed for other areas of spending, it frees up capital for those clinics to provide services like abortion to women, possibly on a sliding fee scale...

    I don't know for sure, but just like in all politics, I am sure there is some measure of truth among the over-generalized hyperbole about government funded baby killing, no matter how small the sliver may be..
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,887
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and if the woman is in poverty or if the child is unwanted, or if the mother is an unmarried teenager it is a sacrifice. do you have evidence to the contrary?


    Every child is a sacrifice.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    the thing is, it is not 9 months she is "giving up".

    if it is an unplanned or unwanted child it is the rest of her life she is going to sacrifice to nurture, care for, and raise that child.

    unless it is a wanted and planned for child. in that case we would not even be discissing abortion or women's reprodctive healh and rights..
    You make is sound soooooo bad......
    You should probably have a child before you go throwing around adivce on the "challenges" of having one.
    You make it sound as if its not worth it...
    i will have one some day. when my gal and i are ready for it.

    and if the woman is in poverty or if the child is unwanted, or if the mother is an unmarried teenager it is a sacrifice. do you have evidence to the contrary?
    Just because something is a sacrifice does not means its not rewarding. You can't just call things quits when something goes "unplanned" especially when that decision revolves around (teminating) another human life.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    you can be pro choice and not pro abortion. pro means in favor of or in support of. i strongly support the right to choose, thus i am pro choice. i do not like the procedure that is abortion, but i realize that as long as there are human beings there will be abortions. why not make it as safe as possible so that women don't have to go to a back alley place for an abortion or have to resort to throwing themselves down a staircase to end the pregnancy?

    if i were in the situation where i got a woman pregnant i would want her to keep the baby. that is the selfish side of me. i mean, that child is half mine, since i contributed to creating it. but i realize that it is not my body that has to carry that baby and i can not be selfish in that situation.

    i strongly support the law that allows women the choice to decide what happens within her own body. and i strongly believe that any changes to that law and any restrictions on women's rights relating to their reproductive health care would be a huge step backwards for this country.
    that is not selfish at all ...

    what is selfish is a woman not giving up 9 months out of the 900 of her lifetime
    9 months to give life to another human being

    this a choice she will make and may regret one day

    the thing is, it is not 9 months she is "giving up".

    if it is an unplanned or unwanted child it is the rest of her life she is going to sacrifice to nurture, care for, and raise that child.

    unless it is a wanted and planned for child. in that case we would not even be discissing abortion or women's reprodctive healh and rights..
    give the child up for adoption of course give life a chance
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    pandora wrote:
    How are abortions funded in our country?

    Only by the private sector then?

    They're funded out of pocket, by private insurance, or - in a few states - by state Medicaid funds.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,887
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    as far as publically funded abortions...they certainly take a side route to get there...but if the federal government gives money to a clinic program, even if it is specifically designed for other areas of spending, it frees up capital for those clinics to provide services like abortion to women, possibly on a sliding fee scale...


    Exactly.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    Blockhead wrote:
    Just because something is a sacrifice does not means its not rewarding. You can't just call things quits when something goes "unplanned" especially when that decision revolves around (teminating) another human life.
    again do you have evidence to the contrary that it is not a sacrifice?

    the fact remains, abortion is legal. this thread is not to debate when life begins. it is to talk about the conservative attacks on women's reproductive rights.

    women should not be forced to jump through a bunch of bullshit hoops or be guilted into deciding against her own wishes. that is precisely what these laws are designed to do.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    Just because something is a sacrifice does not means its not rewarding. You can't just call things quits when something goes "unplanned" especially when that decision revolves around (teminating) another human life.
    again do you have evidence to the contrary that it is not a sacrifice?

    the fact remains, abortion is legal. this thread is not to debate when life begins. it is to talk about the conservative attacks on women's reproductive rights.

    women should not be forced to jump through a bunch of bullshit hoops or be guilted into deciding against her own wishes. that is precisely what these laws are designed to do.
    Who is disputing its a sacrifice??? You sound like Ayn Rand.
    You will understand the mintue you have a child, where I come from on this topic.
    Sure women should shouldn't be guilted into deciding againster her own wishes/body, but were not talking about removing a wart here, were talking about ending a humans life, whatever you classify it as it, its still a developing human.
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    pandora wrote:
    what is selfish is....

    Just not, lest ye be judged, Pandora.
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Every problem in the world boils down to over population, instead of banning abortion we should be limiting how many children you can legally produce.
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    BinauralJam wrote:
    Every problem in the world boils down to over population, instead of banning abortion we should be limiting how many children you can legally produce.
    woah buddy, post your source...
    If you can tell people how many kids they can have, do you also support deciding WHO should be having the kids that populate this earth

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