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DischordVisionDischordVision SEAttle by way of WNY Posts: 532
edited December 2011 in A Moving Train
I hate to point the finger at people but Chris really?

(viewed it before playing Even Flow video on PJ's facebook post)
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,980
    if people stopped stealing music, this probably wouldnt happen

    I know its not cool, but its the way things are now
  • F5F5 Posts: 791
    Who cares... I know I don't.
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  • dasvidanadasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,349
    I find that somewhat shocking......maybe I'm just naive but Walmart? Blah!
    It's nice to be nice to the nice.
  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    I saw this Target commercial one time..

    Just sayin..
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  • DischordVisionDischordVision SEAttle by way of WNY Posts: 532
    Cavstarr313 wrote:
    I saw this Target commercial one time..

    Just sayin..

    Target doesn't shove it's co. wealth, low employee pay, drive to destroy small businesses and quest for world domination down everyone's throats.
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  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    DischordVision wrote:
    Cavstarr313 wrote:
    I saw this Target commercial one time..

    Just sayin..

    Target doesn't shove it's co. wealth, low employee pay, drive to destroy small businesses and quest for world domination down everyone's throats.
    I will give you that.. I have been to Target.. I have never set foot in a WalMart.. for those reasons and a few more
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  • jimbojones1138jimbojones1138 Posts: 3,640
    F5 wrote:
    Who cares... I know I don't.
    it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
  • orangediveorangedive Posts: 24
    You know what's weird: WalMart brings a ton of necessities to people for very low prices. Lots of poor people are able to get things like toilet paper, food, soap, etc because of their low prices. Everyone hates WalMart but no one considers that their business model allows low-income people to afford the stuff they really need.

    Oh, and about Chris Cornell...good for him.
  • DischordVisionDischordVision SEAttle by way of WNY Posts: 532
    orangedive wrote:
    You know what's weird: WalMart brings a ton of necessities to people for very low prices. Lots of poor people are able to get things like toilet paper, food, soap, etc because of their low prices. Everyone hates WalMart but no one considers that their business model allows low-income people to afford the stuff they really need.

    Oh, and about Chris Cornell...good for him.

    that's probably the most pathetic response I've ever read...that's great Wal-Mart keeps the poor in their class..."don't think you're getting anywhere in your life since you're poor and you'll stay that way YET! good ol' Wal-Mart will have you living in high class w/ all our cheap items that will keep you and your family alive!
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    DischordVision wrote:

    that's probably the most pathetic response I've ever read...that's great Wal-Mart keeps the poor in their class..."don't think you're getting anywhere in your life since you're poor and you'll stay that way YET! good ol' Wal-Mart will have you living in high class w/ all our cheap items that will keep you and your family alive!

    :roll:
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    edited December 2011
    I'm sure on a per store basic Target is just as responsible for crushing small business.
    I doubt Target employees make much more if any more than Walmart employees

    I'll bet Targets sorry they didn't have as good a business plan as Walmart.


    Walmart has a quest for world domination? Really?

    I know Walmart is very successful, but where is this shoving their success down everyone's throat happen?
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    DischordVision wrote:
    orangedive wrote:
    You know what's weird: WalMart brings a ton of necessities to people for very low prices. Lots of poor people are able to get things like toilet paper, food, soap, etc because of their low prices. Everyone hates WalMart but no one considers that their business model allows low-income people to afford the stuff they really need.

    Oh, and about Chris Cornell...good for him.

    that's probably the most pathetic response I've ever read...that's great Wal-Mart keeps the poor in their class..."don't think you're getting anywhere in your life since you're poor and you'll stay that way YET! good ol' Wal-Mart will have you living in high class w/ all our cheap items that will keep you and your family alive!

    What does shopping at Walmart have to do with a person being able to make more money?



    Let's be realistic folks and take the PJ-tinted glasses off for a sec. If you think there's something wrong with Cornell schlepping walmart's crap, then there's something wrong with PJ doin it for Target.
  • DischordVisionDischordVision SEAttle by way of WNY Posts: 532
    well truth be told PJ went through with the Target deal as a sort of one time experiment so to say...I doubt they'll be trying anything similar w/ the next album or in the future.

    I'm really just getting at the fact that Wal-Marts of America are almost in every small town and they do drive out the small guys which makes said small town less diverse and more of a commercialized hub of one brand only. There is a science when it comes to retail, merch, consumerism and there's so many other options to run a business.Target stores aren't everywhere in suburbia/small towns and they def aren't gigantic warehouses where you have to walk 2 miles to find something.

    as for Cornell, I kinda lost respect for him individually considering the Scream album and now this. I love Soundgarden which is a separate beast altogether.
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  • Bu$chlagerBu$chlager Posts: 498
    DewieCox wrote:
    Let's be realistic folks and take the PJ-tinted glasses off for a sec. If you think there's something wrong with Cornell schlepping walmart's crap, then there's something wrong with PJ doin it for Target.

    Nailed it.
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,335
    orangedive wrote:
    You know what's weird: WalMart brings a ton of necessities to people for very low prices. Lots of poor people are able to get things like toilet paper, food, soap, etc because of their low prices. Everyone hates WalMart but no one considers that their business model allows low-income people to afford the stuff they really need.

    Oh, and about Chris Cornell...good for him.

    At face value, your post seems to be logical and to make perfect sense. But in reality, all those low prices actually serve to be a long term detriment to the working class. Walmart places intense pressure on suppliers to provide products at low prices which in turn forces the manufacturers to layoff workers, reduce wages and benefits, reduce the quality of the product, or outsource the production to maintain profitability. The Walmart business model is not good for poor people. Check the link below for a great article on the hidden impact of Walmart's business model:

    http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html
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  • orangediveorangedive Posts: 24
    on2legs wrote:
    orangedive wrote:
    You know what's weird: WalMart brings a ton of necessities to people for very low prices. Lots of poor people are able to get things like toilet paper, food, soap, etc because of their low prices. Everyone hates WalMart but no one considers that their business model allows low-income people to afford the stuff they really need.

    Oh, and about Chris Cornell...good for him.

    At face value, your post seems to be logical and to make perfect sense. But in reality, all those low prices actually serve to be a long term detriment to the working class. Walmart places intense pressure on suppliers to provide products at low prices which in turn forces the manufacturers to layoff workers, reduce wages and benefits, reduce the quality of the product, or outsource the production to maintain profitability. The Walmart business model is not good for poor people. Check the link below for a great article on the hidden impact of Walmart's business model:

    http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html
    Millions upon millions of people get necessities (that is, food and toiletries, etc) not DVDs not cool zippo lighters not overpriced backpacks. Necessities. Things you and I take for granted. Millions of people get those things cheaper. I'm not saying WalMart is to be worshipped. I'm just saying that it's very "cool" to hate WM, but not many people ever mention that their are people who depend on WalMart's low prices to take care of their families.

    It's possible that more people benefit from WalMart than not.

    Economically speaking, low prices are good for people. This is an absolute truth. If WalMart started charging higher prices in order to allow distributors to charge more etc, people would accuse them of price gouging.

    Again, I'm not some lover of WM, I'm just trying to point out that WM does help people who have low incomes. I know it's not politically correct to say anything good about WM, but walk in there sometime. See who's shopping there voluntarily exchanging their money for goods they desperately need.

    BTW, I didn't mean to take the thread off track. Sorry about that.
  • Gremmie03Gremmie03 Posts: 505
    My friends cousin married a Walton. No bullshit.
    Now he flies home in a G5 to visit his family.
    Nice gig if you can get it
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  • A satellite forever orbitingA satellite forever orbiting Posts: 1,888
    Gremmie03 wrote:
    Now he flies home in a G5 to visit his family.

    i heard those are whisper quiet.
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,310
    orangedive wrote:
    on2legs wrote:
    orangedive wrote:
    You know what's weird: WalMart brings a ton of necessities to people for very low prices. Lots of poor people are able to get things like toilet paper, food, soap, etc because of their low prices. Everyone hates WalMart but no one considers that their business model allows low-income people to afford the stuff they really need.

    Oh, and about Chris Cornell...good for him.

    At face value, your post seems to be logical and to make perfect sense. But in reality, all those low prices actually serve to be a long term detriment to the working class. Walmart places intense pressure on suppliers to provide products at low prices which in turn forces the manufacturers to layoff workers, reduce wages and benefits, reduce the quality of the product, or outsource the production to maintain profitability. The Walmart business model is not good for poor people. Check the link below for a great article on the hidden impact of Walmart's business model:

    http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html
    Millions upon millions of people get necessities (that is, food and toiletries, etc) not DVDs not cool zippo lighters not overpriced backpacks. Necessities. Things you and I take for granted. Millions of people get those things cheaper. I'm not saying WalMart is to be worshipped. I'm just saying that it's very "cool" to hate WM, but not many people ever mention that their are people who depend on WalMart's low prices to take care of their families.

    It's possible that more people benefit from WalMart than not.

    Economically speaking, low prices are good for people. This is an absolute truth. If WalMart started charging higher prices in order to allow distributors to charge more etc, people would accuse them of price gouging.

    Again, I'm not some lover of WM, I'm just trying to point out that WM does help people who have low incomes. I know it's not politically correct to say anything good about WM, but walk in there sometime. See who's shopping there voluntarily exchanging their money for goods they desperately need.

    BTW, I didn't mean to take the thread off track. Sorry about that.

    there is a reason that poverty rates have increased as walmart's market share does. low prices are not good for the american worker. low prices mean that product X was made in china and not by an american. so yes, the poor oftentimes "need" to shop at walmart because that is all they can afford, but i'm guessing they'd rather make a living wage and pay a little more for toilet paper.
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,335
    orangedive wrote:
    Millions upon millions of people get necessities (that is, food and toiletries, etc) not DVDs not cool zippo lighters not overpriced backpacks. Necessities. Things you and I take for granted. Millions of people get those things cheaper. I'm not saying WalMart is to be worshipped. I'm just saying that it's very "cool" to hate WM, but not many people ever mention that their are people who depend on WalMart's low prices to take care of their families.

    It's possible that more people benefit from WalMart than not.

    Economically speaking, low prices are good for people. This is an absolute truth. If WalMart started charging higher prices in order to allow distributors to charge more etc, people would accuse them of price gouging.

    Again, I'm not some lover of WM, I'm just trying to point out that WM does help people who have low incomes. I know it's not politically correct to say anything good about WM, but walk in there sometime. See who's shopping there voluntarily exchanging their money for goods they desperately need.

    BTW, I didn't mean to take the thread off track. Sorry about that.

    Your assertion that Walmart is "good" for poor people simply because they provide low priced merchandise is naive and simplistic. It fails to take into account the behind the scenes economic forces that allow Walmart to provide those "everyday low prices".

    I encourage you to read the link I posted above. It might change your point of view on this issue.
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  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    DewieCox wrote:
    Let's be realistic folks and take the PJ-tinted glasses off for a sec. If you think there's something wrong with Cornell schlepping walmart's crap, then there's something wrong with PJ doin it for Target.

    Agreed, and for the record I think they both could have made wiser choices.

    I used to work at a Walmart as well.
  • LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    DischordVision wrote:

    as for Cornell, I kinda lost respect for him individually considering the Scream album and now this. I love Soundgarden which is a separate beast altogether.


    You lost respect for Cornell but not pearl jam after they allowed this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCYnUBXdZgg&sns=em
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Wal-Mart sells Chris Cornell stuff?
    I didn't know Chris Cornell was Chinese.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    Cosmo wrote:
    Wal-Mart sells Chris Cornell stuff?
    I didn't know Chris Cornell was Chinese.
    A wooden Cornell is from Korea, Canada, or maybe Taiwan.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Cosmo wrote:
    Wal-Mart sells Chris Cornell stuff?
    I didn't know Chris Cornell was Chinese.
    ha. sound garden's guuitar dude appears to me to be of oriental decent. maybe he just stoned as hell and his eyes went small?
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    chadwick wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Wal-Mart sells Chris Cornell stuff?
    I didn't know Chris Cornell was Chinese.
    ha. sound garden's guuitar dude appears to me to be of oriental decent. maybe he just stoned as hell and his eyes went small?

    I always thought he looked more middle-eastern. Maybe it's the beard? :lol:

    EDIT: wiki says his parents are from India
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Jason P wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Wal-Mart sells Chris Cornell stuff?
    I didn't know Chris Cornell was Chinese.
    A wooden Cornell is from Korea, Canada, or maybe Taiwan.

    :lol:

    People are really losing respect for a person for making an ad?
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    DewieCox wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Wal-Mart sells Chris Cornell stuff?
    I didn't know Chris Cornell was Chinese.
    ha. sound garden's guuitar dude appears to me to be of oriental decent. maybe he just stoned as hell and his eyes went small?

    I always thought he looked more middle-eastern. Maybe it's the beard? :lol:

    EDIT: wiki says his parents are from India
    whatever happened to this dude?
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  • orangediveorangedive Posts: 24
    on2legs wrote:
    orangedive wrote:
    Millions upon millions of people get necessities (that is, food and toiletries, etc) not DVDs not cool zippo lighters not overpriced backpacks. Necessities. Things you and I take for granted. Millions of people get those things cheaper. I'm not saying WalMart is to be worshipped. I'm just saying that it's very "cool" to hate WM, but not many people ever mention that their are people who depend on WalMart's low prices to take care of their families.

    It's possible that more people benefit from WalMart than not.

    Economically speaking, low prices are good for people. This is an absolute truth. If WalMart started charging higher prices in order to allow distributors to charge more etc, people would accuse them of price gouging.

    Again, I'm not some lover of WM, I'm just trying to point out that WM does help people who have low incomes. I know it's not politically correct to say anything good about WM, but walk in there sometime. See who's shopping there voluntarily exchanging their money for goods they desperately need.

    BTW, I didn't mean to take the thread off track. Sorry about that.

    Your assertion that Walmart is "good" for poor people simply because they provide low priced merchandise is naive and simplistic. It fails to take into account the behind the scenes economic forces that allow Walmart to provide those "everyday low prices".

    I encourage you to read the link I posted above. It might change your point of view on this issue.

    It's actually not naive and simplistic. I have spent many hours studying economic theory (I hate to pull that card, but I want you to know I'm not just spouting off to be irritating). I used to believe wholeheartedly in your perspective, but then I learned the economics they didn't teach in college.

    Here are a couple of books that helped me learn and understand what really helps pull people out of poverty:

    http://www.amazon.com/Economics-One-Les ... gy_b_img_c

    http://www.amazon.com/Road-Serfdom-Docu ... gy_b_img_c

    http://www.amazon.com/Human-Action-Pock ... 255&sr=8-1

    The other thing about the "behind-the-scenes" forces: I assume you are referring to the poor working conditions and low wages in other countries that allow us to have cheap goods (sorry, I haven't had time to get into your link). One thing that most people don't consider...while the low wages in China, for instance, seem terrible to us, they may be helping those folks in that country. What's their alternative? Not to work at all? To have no money? Just like you, I wish they could have a higher standard of living. But they are voluntarily working for those wages that seem "low" to us. Those wages are having a positive effect on their lives or else they wouldn't do that work.

    Again, I'm not saying that I'm happy about their current living conditions and wages, but we don't live in a perfect world. In America in the 1800s, for instance, the standard of living was very low compared to now. People worked for very low wages and lived in poverty. But those low wages rise over time as capital accumulates. America is a great example. In a few decades, you'll see wages rates in China (other things remaining equal, of course) rise. In fact. we've already seen a tremendous rise in the standard of living in China since the 1970s. Same with India.

    Anyway, sorry to go on about this. I will check out your link. I encourage you check out the books I posted. Especially that first one, Economics in One Lesson.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    on2legs wrote:
    orangedive wrote:
    You know what's weird: WalMart brings a ton of necessities to people for very low prices. Lots of poor people are able to get things like toilet paper, food, soap, etc because of their low prices. Everyone hates WalMart but no one considers that their business model allows low-income people to afford the stuff they really need.

    Oh, and about Chris Cornell...good for him.

    At face value, your post seems to be logical and to make perfect sense. But in reality, all those low prices actually serve to be a long term detriment to the working class. Walmart places intense pressure on suppliers to provide products at low prices which in turn forces the manufacturers to layoff workers, reduce wages and benefits, reduce the quality of the product, or outsource the production to maintain profitability. The Walmart business model is not good for poor people. Check the link below for a great article on the hidden impact of Walmart's business model:

    http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html

    welcome to corprate America...world, do you think walmart is the only company doing this ?
    I go to a lot of meeting her at work (large corp.) and the bottom line is always the same
    "we need to stay competive" and let me tell you that it's not all price cuts and hiring freezes
    it's also lay-offs as well during these times along with out sorcing as well to mexico, poland, tiwan
    and some other 3rd world countries, I don't shop walmart either but if I were a band or a mfg. looking to market my goods I would be a fool to turn them down because they have more locations and customers than just about anyone else out there so really lets do the math/homework before slinging mud at anybody

    Godfather.
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