Ed swearing during songs.

djklambake

Eh... It is a little difficult to listen to boots with the kids in the car, but I can't fault a man for getting a few good words out.

Kevinman

Oh, she walks slowly, across a young man's room
She said "I'm ready to fuck you"

Adds more meaning to the song. I'm sure your kids aren't listening as close as you think they are. Probably don't even notice it. If they do hear it, oh well, you can't ear muff them forever.

satansbed

GotMeABigWave wrote:

veddertown wrote:

I'm no prude and am not the kind of person to get offended by anything really and I'm not saying it offends me but when Ed throws swear words into songs that don't have them normally it doesn't really do anything for the song and put's you right off singing along. It's also pretty inconvenient as I have to cough in the car or at home so the kids don't hear!

Faithful - "through all of this fuckin noise I'm through with screamin'"
Severed Hand - "You'll see dragons after 3 or 4 I said fuck yeah"
Sleight Of Hand - "Trapped on a road he fuckin' knew by heart"
There's even a version of Black with, "I fuckin' know you'll be a sun, in somebody elses sky"

There are tons more I can't remember right now but it really does fuck all for me!!

Ha ha. I do recognise this. I am no prude either nor am I a stranger to swearing myself, but I do not swear in front of my children and I skip the songs containing profanities when I play PJ to my kids. Or I very suddenly develop a censored version of Tourette's.

My 7 year old son's favourite album is Satchel's Heartache and Honey and the first song (The Return Of...) contains the phrase "fucking heartache and honey..." so I always start with song no. 2...

I know children will learn swear words at some stage, but I want to be able to at least exercise some control over it and avoid situation like when we had our neighbours' 5 year old for dinner, who expressed his surprise by exclaiming "Fucking Hell"!

That said, I do enjoy the occasional "fuck"

My dad onced said to me "There is no need to curse as much as you fucking do" made laugh. If I have kids il be of the view if it's good enough for me it's good enough for them

Kathi

I dig it. I like my ed angry.

and judging from boots I've heard so far, his swearing's not too bad. especially in between songs. but that could also be cause I'm used to dave grohl's banter, which has loooots of fucks.

but yeah, nothing they won't pick up at school at the latest. my dad's first grade pupils call each other gay as an insult without remotely understanding what it even means, I find that to be much worse than a few fucks and shits.

Hussa

"What the fuck is this world running to, u didn't leave a message, at least I..."

Lament

Better Dan wrote:

veddertown wrote:

I'm no prude and am not the kind of person to get offended by anything really and I'm not saying it offends me but when Ed throws swear words into songs that don't have them normally it doesn't really do anything for the song and put's you right off singing along. It's also pretty inconvenient as I have to cough in the car or at home so the kids don't hear!

Faithful - "through all of this fuckin noise I'm through with screamin'"
Severed Hand - "You'll see dragons after 3 or 4 I said fuck yeah"
Sleight Of Hand - "Trapped on a road he fuckin' knew by heart"
There's even a version of Black with, "I fuckin' know you'll be a sun, in somebody elses sky"

There are tons more I can't remember right now but it really does fuck all for me!!

I like or don't mind all the ones you mentioned, but the one added "fuck" that I can't stand is the one he adds to Present Tense...just takes something away from the song for me. I don't think it's the "fuck" I don't like as much as the delivery of it. Anyone else?

Agreed on Present Tense, though the Sleight of Hand one is ridiculous. There are times when it's appropriate (Rearviewmirror), times when it's neither here nor there (Faithfull), and times when it distracts from a great set of lyrics and goes against the atmosphere of the music (Sleight of Hand). The third kind is when it makes me cringe.

pjfan31

The waitin drove me mad

You're finally here and I'm a fuckin mess...

your move now

shit... you should all keep me the fuck away from your children then..

DewieCox

veddertown wrote:

Faithful - "through all of this fuckin noise I'm through with screamin'"
Severed Hand - "You'll see dragons after 3 or 4 I said fuck yeah"
Sleight Of Hand - "Trapped on a road he fuckin' knew by heart"
There's even a version of Black with, "I fuckin' know you'll be a sun, in somebody elses sky"

I think some of these are kinda painful in a Old School wedding band sorta way. Sleight of Hand and Black don't need the fucks. There's already plenty of emotion packed into those songs.

Riverrunner

DS1119 wrote:

Funny the OP brought this up. My best bud and I have been listening to PJ for years. We are in his minivan (yeah I know) and he has his kids with us (6 and 4) and he's playing Why Go. Its get to the :

"She's been diagnosed
By some stupid fuck
And mommy agrees" part.

Well he turns the volume way up and him and the kids sing instead She's been diagnosed...by some stupid duck"! It was hilarious.

veddertown

81 wrote:

it's fuckin rock and roll...not church

Hey, I'm not anti-profanity, plenty artists I listen to have swearing in their songs and it's fine because it fits but if it wasn't there in the first place it takes away a little fluency in the lyrics when you add it live and it doesn't make the song sound better for it. Especially on something like Sleight Of Hand or Black? When he sings "aimed at my fuckin' head, won't you help me" in SOLAT it fits the song perfectly but it doesn't always work. I mean if he sang, "I wish I was the fucking full moon shining off your Camaro's hood" or "Waiting, watching the fucking clock it's four o clock" then it would sound really out of place. If swearing adds a bit of drive or anger in an uptempo song then it's great but I used Sleight Of Hand as an example as I think it's lyrically one of the bands strongest moments and hearing "lost on a road he fucking knew by heart" changed the way the line sounded too much and the same with No Way, so absurd sounds more fluent without a fucking crammed into the line.

veddertown

your move now wrote:

shit... you should all keep me the fuck away from your children then..

Jamie_The_CFH

This is an interesting thread...

I'm afraid my 2 cents are in favour of 'Team Rock and Roll'...I feel it would be unrealistic for adult artists to censor themselves in case children are listening. Fair enough, I wouldn't let my niece listen to a song with swearing in it, as she's still too young to understand and respect the linguistic power of a good curse! Although swearing is often used lazily, I feel a good 'CUNTING FUCKER' often provides the only release from a fucked up world!

I'm certain I'm not exaggerating by suggesting that the majority of people in this world swear (even to themselves) when at a moment of utter frustration; it's as if we're programmed to search for a taboo word to articulate our frustration...therefore, I believe that Ed's swearing is merely mirroring reality. Of course, that's not to suggest that I would force it down children's throats. I would also cough or talk over the swearing in the car to protect my precious niece! HOWEVER...when my niece is old enough...when the time comes, I'd want her to hear her swearing from someone like Ed, who really does have something worthwhile to 'express' through his cursing. Yeah, sometimes Ed swears lazily...but he's human too! Yes, let's protect our kids...but let Pearl Jam also be the educator of the ugly, crass side of life!




Sorry to come across like a twat...a few whiskeys and I'm ranting away as if anyone gives a shit! :oops: :?


Regards,

Jamie

jimbojones1138

i think ill throw, these FUCKING PILLS AWAY!!!!


i listen to them live so much that its almost hard for me to not sing a long without the curses he puts in

The Oracle

fortheloveofpearljam wrote:

I don't have kids so I love the swearing! I just sometime get embarrassed at red lights and will admit that I sometimes turn my music down if I am next to an old man or woman or young children. I can curse like a sailor and nothing beats listening to Eddie say "fuck!" for me.

Works for me too. My grandfather was a sailor, so I was exposed very early to all the profanities, but I know when to hold my tongue. Even went to a private catholic school - now that's where you learn to swear! But swearing is much more common these days, and I love Ed's use of the word. Have heaps of bootlegs and, mostly he uses it to good affect, seems to me to fit in perfectly with the lyrics and the music!

veddertown

One night at the dinner table our then 6 year old daughter asked, "Mummy what's a cunt?" :shock: She said ask your dad so I said I didn't know but not to say it because it was probably just something somebody made up. Mrs Veddertown said it was a good job she didn't say clitoris because she would have said there's no point in asking your father that one. Wham, bam, thank you maam!!

The Oracle

veddertown wrote:

One night at the dinner table our then 6 year old daughter asked, "Mummy what's a cunt?" :shock: She said ask your dad so I said I didn't know but not to say it because it was probably just something somebody made up. Mrs Veddertown said it was a good job she didn't say clitoris because she would have said there's no point in asking your father that one. Wham, bam, thank you maam!!

EdsonNascimento

My kids love it!











Wife not so much.

-Emma-

veddertown I remember when I first heard the 'C' word on a movie...I said to my older brother (who was a fan of swearwords) "C**t...that's a new one for you!". My parents said to me "Emma!" in this rather shocked voice, and I said something like "C**t? What's wrong with that?" I was probably about 9-10 years old at the time.

I don't like hearing swearing unnecessarily in regular everyday conversations...kicking your toe and swearing is fine, but I don't like it when every second word someone uses is a swearword.

I have absolutely no problem with Eddie swearing though.

Lament

I was once having a conversation with one of my friends and a friend of hers, who was apparently a casual Pearl Jam fan and had just seen them (I believe St. Louis 2010 was the show she was at). She was telling my friend about the show, unaware that I was a long-time follower of the band. The first thing out of her mouth about the show...

"I've never seen anybody over the age of ten get as viscerally excited over hearing someone drop an F-bomb as Pearl Jam fans apparently do..."

All I could think to myself was "My God...she's so right..."