Hey, I'm not anti-profanity, plenty artists I listen to have swearing in their songs and it's fine because it fits but if it wasn't there in the first place it takes away a little fluency in the lyrics when you add it live and it doesn't make the song sound better for it. Especially on something like Sleight Of Hand or Black? When he sings "aimed at my fuckin' head, won't you help me" in SOLAT it fits the song perfectly but it doesn't always work. I mean if he sang, "I wish I was the fucking full moon shining off your Camaro's hood" or "Waiting, watching the fucking clock it's four o clock" then it would sound really out of place. If swearing adds a bit of drive or anger in an uptempo song then it's great but I used Sleight Of Hand as an example as I think it's lyrically one of the bands strongest moments and hearing "lost on a road he fucking knew by heart" changed the way the line sounded too much and the same with No Way, so absurd sounds more fluent without a fucking crammed into the line.
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shit... you should all keep me the fuck away from your children then..
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I'm afraid my 2 cents are in favour of 'Team Rock and Roll'...I feel it would be unrealistic for adult artists to censor themselves in case children are listening. Fair enough, I wouldn't let my niece listen to a song with swearing in it, as she's still too young to understand and respect the linguistic power of a good curse! Although swearing is often used lazily, I feel a good 'CUNTING FUCKER' often provides the only release from a fucked up world!
I'm certain I'm not exaggerating by suggesting that the majority of people in this world swear (even to themselves) when at a moment of utter frustration; it's as if we're programmed to search for a taboo word to articulate our frustration...therefore, I believe that Ed's swearing is merely mirroring reality. Of course, that's not to suggest that I would force it down children's throats. I would also cough or talk over the swearing in the car to protect my precious niece! HOWEVER...when my niece is old enough...when the time comes, I'd want her to hear her swearing from someone like Ed, who really does have something worthwhile to 'express' through his cursing. Yeah, sometimes Ed swears lazily...but he's human too! Yes, let's protect our kids...but let Pearl Jam also be the educator of the ugly, crass side of life!
Sorry to come across like a twat...a few whiskeys and I'm ranting away as if anyone gives a shit! :oops: :?
Regards,
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I don't have kids so I love the swearing! I just sometime get embarrassed at red lights and will admit that I sometimes turn my music down if I am next to an old man or woman or young children. I can curse like a sailor and nothing beats listening to Eddie say "fuck!" for me.
Works for me too. My grandfather was a sailor, so I was exposed very early to all the profanities, but I know when to hold my tongue. Even went to a private catholic school - now that's where you learn to swear! But swearing is much more common these days, and I love Ed's use of the word. Have heaps of bootlegs and, mostly he uses it to good affect, seems to me to fit in perfectly with the lyrics and the music!
One night at the dinner table our then 6 year old daughter asked, "Mummy what's a cunt?" :shock: She said ask your dad so I said I didn't know but not to say it because it was probably just something somebody made up. Mrs Veddertown said it was a good job she didn't say clitoris because she would have said there's no point in asking your father that one. Wham, bam, thank you maam!!
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One night at the dinner table our then 6 year old daughter asked, "Mummy what's a cunt?" :shock: She said ask your dad so I said I didn't know but not to say it because it was probably just something somebody made up. Mrs Veddertown said it was a good job she didn't say clitoris because she would have said there's no point in asking your father that one. Wham, bam, thank you maam!!
veddertown I remember when I first heard the 'C' word on a movie...I said to my older brother (who was a fan of swearwords) "C**t...that's a new one for you!". My parents said to me "Emma!" in this rather shocked voice, and I said something like "C**t? What's wrong with that?" I was probably about 9-10 years old at the time.
I don't like hearing swearing unnecessarily in regular everyday conversations...kicking your toe and swearing is fine, but I don't like it when every second word someone uses is a swearword.
I have absolutely no problem with Eddie swearing though.
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I was once having a conversation with one of my friends and a friend of hers, who was apparently a casual Pearl Jam fan and had just seen them (I believe St. Louis 2010 was the show she was at). She was telling my friend about the show, unaware that I was a long-time follower of the band. The first thing out of her mouth about the show...
"I've never seen anybody over the age of ten get as viscerally excited over hearing someone drop an F-bomb as Pearl Jam fans apparently do..."
All I could think to myself was "My God...she's so right..."
content, not to be superseded by the use of a single word (or maybe a string of them spat out with the raw emotion that is part of what makes us love this band)
I don't have kids so I love the swearing! I just sometime get embarrassed at red lights and will admit that I sometimes turn my music down if I am next to an old man or woman or young children. I can curse like a sailor and nothing beats listening to Eddie say "fuck!" for me.
Agreed
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I love the word fuck. Use it constantly, and love screaming it when it comes up in a song. Use it so much that I'm completely de-sensitized to it and dont even realize I say it. (almost like 'um' or 'ya know'. It's just a fucking WORD, big deal. Christ, people are too pussified today.
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I love the word fuck. Use it constantly, and love screaming it when it comes up in a song. Use it so much that I'm completely de-sensitized to it and actually dont even realize I say it. (almost like 'um' or 'ya know'. It's just a fucking WORD, big deal. Christ, people are too pussified today.
You like it so much, you even quote your own posts about it.
Personally, I'm very censored, just comes natural with 2 little ones at home, but when it comes to music and art you have to express what you feel and sometimes you can't emphasize unless you drop an f bomb, etc... It's his music!! And if that's how he's feeling when he's performing, BY ALL MEANS!! ROCK ON!!! \m/
Oh, where oh where can my fucking baby be?
The fucking Lord took her away from me
She's gone to fucking heaven, so I got to be fucking good
So I can see my baby when I leave this fucking world.
We were out on a fucking date in my fucking daddy's car
We hadn't driven very fucking far
There in the fucking road, up straight ahead
A fucking car was stalled, the fucking engine was dead
I couldn't fucking stop, so I swerved to the fucking right
I'll never fucking forget the fucking sound that fucking night
The fucking screamin' tires, the fucking bustin' glass
The fucking painful scream that I heard last.
Oh, where oh where can my fucking baby be?
The fucking Lord took her away from me
She's gone to fucking heaven, so I got to be fucking good
So I can see my baby when I leave this fucking world.
When I fucking woke up, the rain was fucking pourin' down
There were fucking people standing all around
Something fucking warm runnin' in my eyes
But somehow I found my fucking baby that night
I lifted her fucking head, she looked at me and said
"Hold me darling just a little fucking while."
I held her fucking close, I kissed her our last fucking kiss
I found the love that I knew I would fucking miss
But now she's gone, even though I hold her fucking tight
I lost my love, my fucking life that night.
Oh, where oh where can my fucking baby be?
The fucking Lord took her away from me
She's gone to fucking heaven, so I got to be fucking good
So I can see my baby when I leave this fucking world.
Oh, fucking oh
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I went as far as making a mix on my iPod of non-swearing Pearl Jam songs so I didn't have to worry about it. I actually looked up the lyrics on this sight so I didn't make mistakes. I don't always pay that close attention to the lyrics. I have screwed up with bootlegs in the car, but then I swear a lot when I drive so I think it's probably worse when I do it then Eddie. I can control it everywhere else but behind the wheel.
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I don't have kids so maybe someone can explain... they're just words aren't they? And considering there are some really young kids out there that swear like sailors they're going to pick it up at school/kinder or whatever pretty quickly
I don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!
And before we get too much tit-for-tat on this one let me just say it's a minor point and I really don't give a shit. I'm usually not a prick on here. However, those are the original lyrics so they don't apply to the OP's post and Ed shouts "fuck" in just about every version of that song barring the televised performances.
I don't have kids so maybe someone can explain... they're just words aren't they? And considering there are some really young kids out there that swear like sailors they're going to pick it up at school/kinder or whatever pretty quickly
I think kids should be allowed to be kids and talking like sailors isn't being a kid in my opinion. Everyone has a different standard, but I don't want to hear my daughter swearing in front of me so I try to model the same. I am not always the best at it.
When FASCISM Comes To America
it will be wrapped in the FLAG and
carrying a CROSS.
doesn't putting something off limits make it all the more appealing to kids (and adults)?
Like if you just treated it as a word rather than making it a big deal maybe they wouldn't use them so much?
I don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!
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I'm afraid my 2 cents are in favour of 'Team Rock and Roll'...I feel it would be unrealistic for adult artists to censor themselves in case children are listening. Fair enough, I wouldn't let my niece listen to a song with swearing in it, as she's still too young to understand and respect the linguistic power of a good curse! Although swearing is often used lazily, I feel a good 'CUNTING FUCKER' often provides the only release from a fucked up world!
I'm certain I'm not exaggerating by suggesting that the majority of people in this world swear (even to themselves) when at a moment of utter frustration; it's as if we're programmed to search for a taboo word to articulate our frustration...therefore, I believe that Ed's swearing is merely mirroring reality. Of course, that's not to suggest that I would force it down children's throats. I would also cough or talk over the swearing in the car to protect my precious niece! HOWEVER...when my niece is old enough...when the time comes, I'd want her to hear her swearing from someone like Ed, who really does have something worthwhile to 'express' through his cursing. Yeah, sometimes Ed swears lazily...but he's human too! Yes, let's protect our kids...but let Pearl Jam also be the educator of the ugly, crass side of life!
Sorry to come across like a twat...a few whiskeys and I'm ranting away as if anyone gives a shit! :oops: :?
Regards,
Jamie
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i listen to them live so much that its almost hard for me to not sing a long without the curses he puts in
Works for me too. My grandfather was a sailor, so I was exposed very early to all the profanities, but I know when to hold my tongue. Even went to a private catholic school - now that's where you learn to swear! But swearing is much more common these days, and I love Ed's use of the word. Have heaps of bootlegs and, mostly he uses it to good affect, seems to me to fit in perfectly with the lyrics and the music!
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Wife not so much.
I don't like hearing swearing unnecessarily in regular everyday conversations...kicking your toe and swearing is fine, but I don't like it when every second word someone uses is a swearword.
I have absolutely no problem with Eddie swearing though.
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"I've never seen anybody over the age of ten get as viscerally excited over hearing someone drop an F-bomb as Pearl Jam fans apparently do..."
All I could think to myself was "My God...she's so right..."
content, not to be superseded by the use of a single word (or maybe a string of them spat out with the raw emotion that is part of what makes us love this band)
Agreed
eh, this is the actual studio version lyric.
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You like it so much, you even quote your own posts about it.
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eh, I know but the FUCK in CAPS represents shouting duh.
He shouts it live, watch the pinkpop 92 video and you'll understand what I mean.
The fucking Lord took her away from me
She's gone to fucking heaven, so I got to be fucking good
So I can see my baby when I leave this fucking world.
We were out on a fucking date in my fucking daddy's car
We hadn't driven very fucking far
There in the fucking road, up straight ahead
A fucking car was stalled, the fucking engine was dead
I couldn't fucking stop, so I swerved to the fucking right
I'll never fucking forget the fucking sound that fucking night
The fucking screamin' tires, the fucking bustin' glass
The fucking painful scream that I heard last.
Oh, where oh where can my fucking baby be?
The fucking Lord took her away from me
She's gone to fucking heaven, so I got to be fucking good
So I can see my baby when I leave this fucking world.
When I fucking woke up, the rain was fucking pourin' down
There were fucking people standing all around
Something fucking warm runnin' in my eyes
But somehow I found my fucking baby that night
I lifted her fucking head, she looked at me and said
"Hold me darling just a little fucking while."
I held her fucking close, I kissed her our last fucking kiss
I found the love that I knew I would fucking miss
But now she's gone, even though I hold her fucking tight
I lost my love, my fucking life that night.
Oh, where oh where can my fucking baby be?
The fucking Lord took her away from me
She's gone to fucking heaven, so I got to be fucking good
So I can see my baby when I leave this fucking world.
Oh, fucking oh
Oh, right...caps. Well, I guess that makes your argument, um, just as invalid as it was the first time.
No need to be a sarcastic smart arse champ.
FUCK!
it will be wrapped in the FLAG and
carrying a CROSS.
ok, ok, you're right. it's a stupid thing to even waste time on actually.
Sorry I somehow upset you.
No need to act that way. I cannot be bothered wasting my time on you if you are going to be like that.
I think kids should be allowed to be kids and talking like sailors isn't being a kid in my opinion. Everyone has a different standard, but I don't want to hear my daughter swearing in front of me so I try to model the same. I am not always the best at it.
it will be wrapped in the FLAG and
carrying a CROSS.
Like if you just treated it as a word rather than making it a big deal maybe they wouldn't use them so much?