...about the consistent ticket calamities? I say absolutely not. Ed would have certainly addressed it at PJ 20.....he completely would have said 'thanks for waiting'
...about the consistent ticket calamities? I say absolutely not. Ed would have certainly addressed it at PJ 20.....he completely would have said 'thanks for waiting'
I bet they know. But they don't have that direct contact with the fanbase. Or just doesn t care enough. They see all the smikley faces at the shows, and that is all they need.
If this was regaridng Foo Fighters, Dave would been in here wriitng something.
If if was NIN, reznor would have tweeted an apology at least.
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100% DO NOT KNOW.....would have been addressed at Alpine........I mean that is what Ed does
I think they probably know about it, but unless you are the one one experiencing a full day of frustration hitting F5, you may not think to mention it 4 months later after preparing for PJ20, all of the BS and organizing that goes with it and also the Canada and SA tours...
It sure stuck out out in my mind after being one of the ones that had tix in my cart several times and couldnt check out.
But for the Euro tour pre-sale, I was in and out with my Amsterdam tix in under 5 mins.
While I certainly feel everyone's pain having been through it myself, it is not in my mind like it is with those who could not secure tix.
6 months from now at the show, will I remember this fiasco? Sure, but it probably won't be in the fore front of my mind like it will for others.
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They do know. Jeff spoke about it with The Rob on the radio.
Yup..that was when jeff promised that it wouldnt happen again.
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They do know. Jeff spoke about it with The Rob on the radio.
Yup..that was when jeff promised that it wouldnt happen again.
So, what you're saying is "Jeff is a failure"?
No. It isn't Jeff's job to make sure this never happened again. All I'm saying is that at least 1 person of the band knew about it.
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I'm hoping the band doesn't know...Because, if they do know what is going on?...But, they aren't doing anything to help this situation out or find a solution....Pretty much tells me how much they care..
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Wow, I have seen a lot of members who never complain complaining here right now. Things must be super screwed up around here. Got the email a little bit ago and see what has happened. Again. Wow
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I'm hoping the band doesn't know...Because, if they do know what is going on?...But, they aren't doing anything to help this situation out or find a solution....Pretty much tells me how much they care..
Jeremy
They're kinda damned either way. Either they know and just don't care (which is lame), or they don't know and don't care to know how their organization is being run (which runs counter to the image they like to put forth that they're "different" than other bands of their stature).
For what it's worth U2 had a massive fuck up with their fan club ticket sales in 2005 which resulted in Larry Mullen stepping in and intervening within twenty-four hours and the sale taking place a second time to basically universal acclaim/satisfaction from the entire fan club. That's saying a lot of if U2 is more in touch with matters of this nature than Pearl Jam (as U2 is a band a lot people on this board would instantly name as an example of someone who is completely out of touch with their fans)...
I'm hoping the band doesn't know...Because, if they do know what is going on?...But, they aren't doing anything to help this situation out or find a solution....Pretty much tells me how much they care..
Jeremy
They're kinda damned either way. Either they know and just don't care (which is lame), or they don't know and don't care to know how their organization is being run (which runs counter to the image they like to put forth that they're "different" than other bands of their stature).
For what it's worth U2 had a massive fuck up with their fan club ticket sales in 2005 which resulted in Larry Mullen stepping in and intervening within twenty-four hours and the sale taking place a second time to basically universal acclaim/satisfaction from the entire fan club. That's saying a lot of if U2 is more in touch with matters of this nature than Pearl Jam (as U2 is a band a lot people on this board would instantly name as an example of someone who is completely out of touch with their fans)...
I remember that...Larry Mullen also apologized to a national audience during the grammy awards.
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I'm hoping the band doesn't know...Because, if they do know what is going on?...But, they aren't doing anything to help this situation out or find a solution....Pretty much tells me how much they care..
Jeremy
They're kinda damned either way. Either they know and just don't care (which is lame), or they don't know and don't care to know how their organization is being run (which runs counter to the image they like to put forth that they're "different" than other bands of their stature).
For what it's worth U2 had a massive fuck up with their fan club ticket sales in 2005 which resulted in Larry Mullen stepping in and intervening within twenty-four hours and the sale taking place a second time to basically universal acclaim/satisfaction from the entire fan club. That's saying a lot of if U2 is more in touch with matters of this nature than Pearl Jam (as U2 is a band a lot people on this board would instantly name as an example of someone who is completely out of touch with their fans)...
I remember that...Larry Mullen also apologized to a national audience during the grammy awards.
Does any of the band members have the sack to apology to all the 10c fans?....We know none of the 10c staff are going to make an apology..
Does any of the band members have the sack to apology to all the 10c fans?....We know none of the 10c staff are going to make an apology..
Didnt Jeff apologize on the radio show for the PJ20 onsale issues?
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i'm glad i'm not involved in this ticket mess up... i don't even know the whole story... what i get from it is that there are tickets available, but they're unavailable because the website is messed up.
either way, pearl jams shows have gone south over the past few years so i doubt i'll pay any money to see them on another "we're touring for no apparent reason" tour. when they release their next album i'll probably go to a show.
They need to get to grips with technology and run it like a proper business not some bedroom job. They don't even have a FB page with updates or whatever. Could learn something from Metallica.
More to the thread, I reckon they might know, surely they would ask about how their ticket sales went? But ya they know they will always see people so not sure they care.
If sabotage is a cover up then what are the chances they tell the band?
I'm hoping the band doesn't know...Because, if they do know what is going on?...But, they aren't doing anything to help this situation out or find a solution....Pretty much tells me how much they care..
Jeremy
They're kinda damned either way. Either they know and just don't care (which is lame), or they don't know and don't care to know how their organization is being run (which runs counter to the image they like to put forth that they're "different" than other bands of their stature).
For what it's worth U2 had a massive fuck up with their fan club ticket sales in 2005 which resulted in Larry Mullen stepping in and intervening within twenty-four hours and the sale taking place a second time to basically universal acclaim/satisfaction from the entire fan club. That's saying a lot of if U2 is more in touch with matters of this nature than Pearl Jam (as U2 is a band a lot people on this board would instantly name as an example of someone who is completely out of touch with their fans)...
he also passive-aggressively told the people that questioned the bands ethics to basically fuck off.
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It doesn't take a massive effort to come on here and see what's happening.
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I bet they know. But they don't have that direct contact with the fanbase. Or just doesn t care enough. They see all the smikley faces at the shows, and that is all they need.
If this was regaridng Foo Fighters, Dave would been in here wriitng something.
If if was NIN, reznor would have tweeted an apology at least.
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When he said it I thought it was F5.
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I think they probably know about it, but unless you are the one one experiencing a full day of frustration hitting F5, you may not think to mention it 4 months later after preparing for PJ20, all of the BS and organizing that goes with it and also the Canada and SA tours...
It sure stuck out out in my mind after being one of the ones that had tix in my cart several times and couldnt check out.
But for the Euro tour pre-sale, I was in and out with my Amsterdam tix in under 5 mins.
While I certainly feel everyone's pain having been through it myself, it is not in my mind like it is with those who could not secure tix.
6 months from now at the show, will I remember this fiasco? Sure, but it probably won't be in the fore front of my mind like it will for others.
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Yup..that was when jeff promised that it wouldnt happen again.
whoops :?
Jeremy
So, what you're saying is "Jeff is a failure"?
No. It isn't Jeff's job to make sure this never happened again. All I'm saying is that at least 1 person of the band knew about it.
Jeremy
He made it his job by stating it would never happen again, no?
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They're kinda damned either way. Either they know and just don't care (which is lame), or they don't know and don't care to know how their organization is being run (which runs counter to the image they like to put forth that they're "different" than other bands of their stature).
For what it's worth U2 had a massive fuck up with their fan club ticket sales in 2005 which resulted in Larry Mullen stepping in and intervening within twenty-four hours and the sale taking place a second time to basically universal acclaim/satisfaction from the entire fan club. That's saying a lot of if U2 is more in touch with matters of this nature than Pearl Jam (as U2 is a band a lot people on this board would instantly name as an example of someone who is completely out of touch with their fans)...
I remember that...Larry Mullen also apologized to a national audience during the grammy awards.
Does any of the band members have the sack to apology to all the 10c fans?....We know none of the 10c staff are going to make an apology..
Didnt Jeff apologize on the radio show for the PJ20 onsale issues?
either way, pearl jams shows have gone south over the past few years so i doubt i'll pay any money to see them on another "we're touring for no apparent reason" tour. when they release their next album i'll probably go to a show.
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I don't know if he did...I just remember he said it won't happen again...Not sure what else he said?..
Jeremy
More to the thread, I reckon they might know, surely they would ask about how their ticket sales went? But ya they know they will always see people so not sure they care.
If sabotage is a cover up then what are the chances they tell the band?
he also passive-aggressively told the people that questioned the bands ethics to basically fuck off.
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that's not the first time i've heard praise for metallica's club. apparently they spoil their fans
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