Front Row Europe?
Rock_Princess_18
Chicago, IL Posts: 304
Which show would be the easiest to get super close to the stage: Oslo, Stockholm, Berlin, or Copenhagen?
And when I say easy, I'm speaking relatively because I'm sure none of them will be "easy".
And when I say easy, I'm speaking relatively because I'm sure none of them will be "easy".
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-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
-16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
-17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
-18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
-19, EV Brussels
2006: Vienna 2009: Berlin 2010: London ~ Berlin 2012: Amsterdam 1+2 ~ Werchter ~ Arras ~ Berlin 1+2
2014: Milano ~ Trieste ~ Vienna ~ Berlin 2018: Padova ~ Rome 2022: Budapest ~ Vienna
EV London/Hammersmith 2012
EV Berlin/Zitadelle 2017
This.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/ZaRoFF/95885951739?created#!/profile.php?id=100001560978213
Me too (girlfriend instead of wife). It was the worst crowd at any show I've been to. Been at the front at quite a few shows and that was the only time I knew it was going to be intolerable.
Unfortunately, the second worst was Copenhagen - surprisingly. If you go for the front in Copenhagen and it's anything like the last time, it might not be the most pleasant experience.
My general rule of thumb is, if I can't get on the rail, it's probably not worth it. If you're on the rail, fantastic - you've got the view and an anchor. If you're even one or two rows back, you can be caught in some pretty strong currents and spend the show concentrating on staying on your feet rather than on the music.
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
If you get there at 6am for shows the shows other than Manchester, then you're wasting a whole day of being in wonderful places, of missing the opportunity to do more interesting things than sitting in a queue. Manchester is ok to go queueing cos the place has nothing going for it.
Still, even if I was going to Manchester, I'd be out at the pub. Fuck the queue!
Also, an important thing to remember for Manchester is queueing at the MEN is chaos!!!! People line up along the barriers they set out, but then split the crowd into lines perpendicular to the barriers for the different entrances (~5 or 6 queues). Once inside the outside ring of foyer/stalls, they then direct people to line up by each of the entrances into the central arena. Not only are some entrances much closer to the stage than others, some are let in before others. There are steps leading into the arena, with staff walking in front to stop people running, so some lines by luck can be 30-60 seconds ahead of others.
So in the end, the original line will be shuffled up like a pack of cards. Someone who's turned up an hour before doors could be within the first few people to get to the barrier, and likewise if you're first in the queue it's unlikely you'll be first in. In fact, people usually start bunching up behind the 'original' queue much later as space begins to fill outside the MEN (say 3-4pm) and these people are often 2nd or 3rd in the 'perpendicular' queues. For best chances, queue perpendicular to the entrances and NOT along the wall.
If none of that makes sense, wait til the day. There WILL be people moaning that they queued first but weren't first in.
'06 - London, Dublin, Reading
'07 - Katowice, Wembley, Dusseldorf, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
'09 - London, Manchester, London
'12 - Manchester, Manchester, Berlin, Stockholm, Copenhagen
Hinn knows how to celebrate a PJ show! Berlin is always in my mind...
2006: Vienna 2009: Berlin 2010: London ~ Berlin 2012: Amsterdam 1+2 ~ Werchter ~ Arras ~ Berlin 1+2
2014: Milano ~ Trieste ~ Vienna ~ Berlin 2018: Padova ~ Rome 2022: Budapest ~ Vienna
EV London/Hammersmith 2012
EV Berlin/Zitadelle 2017
that being said, if those are the times I have to reach the venue to get front row, so be it.
whereto wait in Berlin (what gates) for 10 club early entry? never been to O2 before...any suggestions
Not sure how crazy I'll go with the queueing this time round. Depends how much touristy things I can fit into the off days.
'06 - London, Dublin, Reading
'07 - Katowice, Wembley, Dusseldorf, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
'09 - London, Manchester, London
'12 - Manchester, Manchester, Berlin, Stockholm, Copenhagen
Yeah, I've enjoyed queueing so far too..that being said, the earliest I ever got to a show was 11:30, so this will be something different. But if the weather's nice and there are some cool people around, it's fine.
how much earlier can you go in with 10C tickets?
I probably won't manage the queue for Berlin, as I'll be attending a conference and I'm not sure I can get the day off...and I may skip it for Stockholm, haven't been there yet and I really want to see the city.
This year's show not being at Wulheide is the precise reason why I'm not going!
As much as I love drinking and partying...if I have to chose between getting front row and having some pre-show beers, it'll be front row.
:-)
last time we did, then they just split us into 6 different queues and it was a free for all.
otherwise, won't make much difference where, you have to put in the hours (which I'm not this time, can't be bothered anymore)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD3aQ4KZYcc
absolutely. though i never went to a show that early (i also prefer to walk around in the cities).
if so it would be wuhlheide. grass, drinks, shadow - it's nice.
same here.
Dublin, Belfast & Werchter 2010
Amsterdam 1 & 2 & Oslo 2012
Santiago II 2005
West Palm Beach 2008
Alpine Valley PJ20 I 2011
Alpine Valley PJ 20 II 2011
Santiago 2011
Lima 2011
Buenos Aires 2013
Brooklyn I 2013
Brooklyn II 2013
Santiago 2015
Bogota 2015
Ft Lauderdale 2016
Miami 2016
Rio de Janeiro 2018
Boston 2 2018
It's where I'd be too. The front is for the young fan.
:-)
Plus having won the lottery in Canada and getting the best seats in the house which meant strolling down into them at 8.30pm is quite the irony.
good god you PJ people are freaking hardcore. may I say...challenge accepted!
manchester will be my first PJ show, and I'll have the pleasure to be going with a friend from portugal who now lives in the UK...we met on the pumpkins board almost 10 years ago, and now we'll finally have the pleasure to see a show together. this is going to be freaking amazing. and her being the person who first introduced me to this band too...so looking forward to it!
Fantastic, Pumpkins are my joint fave band with PJ, travelled a bit in 07 and other years to see em as I wasn't really around back in the 90s was great. Enjoy the show!!
thanks, I'm sure I will! Pumpkins were the band that defined my youth, I saw them when I was 14, on their farewell tour in 2000...wasn't too impressed with what they did since, but I've seen them live a few weeks ago and the show was pretty awesome!
I had this stupid "you're a Nirvana fan, you can't like PJ" thing going when I first got into music...can't believe what I missed out on looking back!
ring ring..
me:yeah
Marjolein:hey Dimitris,where are u\?
me:at the hotel..what happen?what time is it?
Marjolein:we are at the venue,its 5:30 am..50 people are already here..come now..
me: tell them you are all nuts..ill come around ..9 am..
9:30 am..11 hours before the show starts 300 freaks was there..already..
1st row my ass..only brisk can run that steps..
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