Front Row Europe?

Rock_Princess_18Rock_Princess_18 Chicago, IL Posts: 304
edited December 2011 in The Porch
Which show would be the easiest to get super close to the stage: Oslo, Stockholm, Berlin, or Copenhagen?

And when I say easy, I'm speaking relatively because I'm sure none of them will be "easy".

:)
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  • WhyNotSwedenWhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,308
    No one knows, it depends on weather and what freak thats going! :D
    -95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
    -00, Stockholm
    -07, Copenhagen
    -09, Berlin
    -10, Berlin
    -11, East Troy 1+2
    -12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
    -13, London, Chicago
    -14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
    -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
    -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
    -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
    -19, EV Brussels

  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    They should all be easy.
  • ChrisileinChrisilein Vienna/Austria Posts: 3,905
    Most important thing...come very early. I was front row at Hard Rock Calling 2010 but left the place because the action was too much for my wife!
    up here in my tree in Vienna
    2006: Vienna 2009: Berlin 2010: London ~ Berlin 2012: Amsterdam 1+2 ~ Werchter ~ Arras ~ Berlin 1+2
    2014: Milano ~ Trieste ~ Vienna ~ Berlin 2018: Padova ~ Rome 2022: Budapest ~ Vienna
    EV London/Hammersmith 2012
    EV Berlin/Zitadelle 2017
  • Hub.Hub. Posts: 1,990
    Chrisilein wrote:
    Most important thing...come very early. I was front row at Hard Rock Calling 2010 but left the place because the action was too much for my wife!

    This. ;)
  • Chrisilein wrote:
    Most important thing...come very early. I was front row at Hard Rock Calling 2010 but left the place because the action was too much for my wife!

    Me too (girlfriend instead of wife). It was the worst crowd at any show I've been to. Been at the front at quite a few shows and that was the only time I knew it was going to be intolerable.

    Unfortunately, the second worst was Copenhagen - surprisingly. If you go for the front in Copenhagen and it's anything like the last time, it might not be the most pleasant experience.

    My general rule of thumb is, if I can't get on the rail, it's probably not worth it. If you're on the rail, fantastic - you've got the view and an anchor. If you're even one or two rows back, you can be caught in some pretty strong currents and spend the show concentrating on staying on your feet rather than on the music.
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    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
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  • HinnHinn Posts: 1,517
    If you get there at 6am you'll be front, and close-ish to the middle.

    If you get there at 6am for shows the shows other than Manchester, then you're wasting a whole day of being in wonderful places, of missing the opportunity to do more interesting things than sitting in a queue. Manchester is ok to go queueing cos the place has nothing going for it. ;)

    Still, even if I was going to Manchester, I'd be out at the pub. Fuck the queue!
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  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    We queued at 8am at Copenhagen last time and still got front row (were ~30th-40th in the queue, mind).


    Also, an important thing to remember for Manchester is queueing at the MEN is chaos!!!! People line up along the barriers they set out, but then split the crowd into lines perpendicular to the barriers for the different entrances (~5 or 6 queues). Once inside the outside ring of foyer/stalls, they then direct people to line up by each of the entrances into the central arena. Not only are some entrances much closer to the stage than others, some are let in before others. There are steps leading into the arena, with staff walking in front to stop people running, so some lines by luck can be 30-60 seconds ahead of others.

    So in the end, the original line will be shuffled up like a pack of cards. Someone who's turned up an hour before doors could be within the first few people to get to the barrier, and likewise if you're first in the queue it's unlikely you'll be first in. In fact, people usually start bunching up behind the 'original' queue much later as space begins to fill outside the MEN (say 3-4pm) and these people are often 2nd or 3rd in the 'perpendicular' queues. For best chances, queue perpendicular to the entrances and NOT along the wall.


    If none of that makes sense, wait til the day. There WILL be people moaning that they queued first but weren't first in. ;)
    Paul
    '06 - London, Dublin, Reading
    '07 - Katowice, Wembley, Dusseldorf, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    '09 - London, Manchester, London
    '12 - Manchester, Manchester, Berlin, Stockholm, Copenhagen
  • myramyra Posts: 1,257
    You never know really. I turned up less than one hour before show time in Marseille 2006. And I didn't have 10C tix. I still ended up front row center during the main set without even trying, because of all the pushing and shoving.
  • ChrisileinChrisilein Vienna/Austria Posts: 3,905
    Hinn wrote:
    If you get there at 6am you'll be front, and close-ish to the middle.

    If you get there at 6am for shows the shows other than Manchester, then you're wasting a whole day of being in wonderful places, of missing the opportunity to do more interesting things than sitting in a queue. Manchester is ok to go queueing cos the place has nothing going for it. ;)

    Still, even if I was going to Manchester, I'd be out at the pub. Fuck the queue!

    Hinn knows how to celebrate a PJ show! Berlin is always in my mind...
    up here in my tree in Vienna
    2006: Vienna 2009: Berlin 2010: London ~ Berlin 2012: Amsterdam 1+2 ~ Werchter ~ Arras ~ Berlin 1+2
    2014: Milano ~ Trieste ~ Vienna ~ Berlin 2018: Padova ~ Rome 2022: Budapest ~ Vienna
    EV London/Hammersmith 2012
    EV Berlin/Zitadelle 2017
  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    6 am? 8 am? you guys are all nuts!

    that being said, if those are the times I have to reach the venue to get front row, so be it. ;)
  • Chrisilein wrote:
    Hinn wrote:
    If you get there at 6am you'll be front, and close-ish to the middle.

    If you get there at 6am for shows the shows other than Manchester, then you're wasting a whole day of being in wonderful places, of missing the opportunity to do more interesting things than sitting in a queue. Manchester is ok to go queueing cos the place has nothing going for it. ;)

    Still, even if I was going to Manchester, I'd be out at the pub. Fuck the queue!

    Hinn knows how to celebrate a PJ show! Berlin is always in my mind...


    whereto wait in Berlin (what gates) for 10 club early entry? never been to O2 before...any suggestions
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  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    Kathi wrote:
    6 am? 8 am? you guys are all nuts!

    that being said, if those are the times I have to reach the venue to get front row, so be it. ;)
    At Copenhagen 2007 there was a great party atmosphere in the queue, chilling out in the sun. My friends even found a dumped couch round the corner, so we took the cushions to the queue and had a very comfortable day. We were tempted to carry the whole couch, but that was too much effort :D


    Not sure how crazy I'll go with the queueing this time round. Depends how much touristy things I can fit into the off days.
    Paul
    '06 - London, Dublin, Reading
    '07 - Katowice, Wembley, Dusseldorf, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    '09 - London, Manchester, London
    '12 - Manchester, Manchester, Berlin, Stockholm, Copenhagen
  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    Pauk wrote:
    Kathi wrote:
    6 am? 8 am? you guys are all nuts!

    that being said, if those are the times I have to reach the venue to get front row, so be it. ;)
    At Copenhagen 2007 there was a great party atmosphere in the queue, chilling out in the sun. My friends even found a dumped couch round the corner, so we took the cushions to the queue and had a very comfortable day. We were tempted to carry the whole couch, but that was too much effort :D


    Not sure how crazy I'll go with the queueing this time round. Depends how much touristy things I can fit into the off days.

    Yeah, I've enjoyed queueing so far too..that being said, the earliest I ever got to a show was 11:30, so this will be something different. But if the weather's nice and there are some cool people around, it's fine.
    how much earlier can you go in with 10C tickets?

    I probably won't manage the queue for Berlin, as I'll be attending a conference and I'm not sure I can get the day off...and I may skip it for Stockholm, haven't been there yet and I really want to see the city.
  • HinnHinn Posts: 1,517
    Chrisilein wrote:
    Hinn wrote:
    If you get there at 6am you'll be front, and close-ish to the middle.

    If you get there at 6am for shows the shows other than Manchester, then you're wasting a whole day of being in wonderful places, of missing the opportunity to do more interesting things than sitting in a queue. Manchester is ok to go queueing cos the place has nothing going for it. ;)

    Still, even if I was going to Manchester, I'd be out at the pub. Fuck the queue!

    Hinn knows how to celebrate a PJ show! Berlin is always in my mind...
    Yeah, cos there's a bar right at the damn queue at Wulheide! Being in a nice park helps!

    This year's show not being at Wulheide is the precise reason why I'm not going!
    115 bucks for half a haircut by a novice? I want my money back!
  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    I've seen quite a few places that had bars (aka people with carts selling beer and food) outside where people queued up...cologne even had actual bars right nearby that would serve you.

    As much as I love drinking and partying...if I have to chose between getting front row and having some pre-show beers, it'll be front row.
  • Tboz51Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    Which show would be the easiest to get super close to the stage: Oslo, Stockholm, Berlin, or Copenhagen?

    And when I say easy, I'm speaking relatively because I'm sure none of them will be "easy".

    :)
    I'd get behind Dimitris... The dude is front row crazy!
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)
  • PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
    Hinn wrote:
    If you get there at 6am you'll be front, and close-ish to the middle.

    If you get there at 6am for shows the shows other than Manchester, then you're wasting a whole day of being in wonderful places, of missing the opportunity to do more interesting things than sitting in a queue. Manchester is ok to go queueing cos the place has nothing going for it. ;)

    Still, even if I was going to Manchester, I'd be out at the pub. Fuck the queue!
    actually, if you queue at Manchester you're wasting you're time.
    last time we did, then they just split us into 6 different queues and it was a free for all.

    otherwise, won't make much difference where, you have to put in the hours (which I'm not this time, can't be bothered anymore)
  • HinnHinn Posts: 1,517
    Tboz51 wrote:
    Which show would be the easiest to get super close to the stage: Oslo, Stockholm, Berlin, or Copenhagen?

    And when I say easy, I'm speaking relatively because I'm sure none of them will be "easy".

    :)
    I'd get behind Dimitris... The dude is front row crazy!
    Not really, I wouldn't say so. Setting aside Alpine, last time I was with him was Wulheide and we were halfway in the stands, voluntarily.
    115 bucks for half a haircut by a novice? I want my money back!
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  • beeswaxbeeswax Posts: 119
    Hinn wrote:
    Yeah, cos there's a bar right at the damn queue at Wulheide! Being in a nice park helps!

    absolutely. though i never went to a show that early (i also prefer to walk around in the cities).
    if so it would be wuhlheide. grass, drinks, shadow - it's nice.
    Hinn wrote:
    This year's show not being at Wulheide is the precise reason why I'm not going!

    same here.
  • SG GhazSG Ghaz Posts: 148
    Front row sucks..
    Manchester & London 2009
    Dublin, Belfast & Werchter 2010
    Amsterdam 1 & 2 & Oslo 2012
  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    nope. I'm a front row nerd, I freely admit it. For my 6 US foo shows, I only didn't get front row one time (it was second row, just because security fucked us over when going in). I want to be up close to where it all happens as possible.
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  • Tboz51Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    Hinn wrote:
    Tboz51 wrote:
    Which show would be the easiest to get super close to the stage: Oslo, Stockholm, Berlin, or Copenhagen?

    And when I say easy, I'm speaking relatively because I'm sure none of them will be "easy".

    :)
    I'd get behind Dimitris... The dude is front row crazy!
    Not really, I wouldn't say so. Setting aside Alpine, last time I was with him was Wulheide and we were halfway in the stands, voluntarily.

    It's where I'd be too. The front is for the young fan.
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    edited December 2011
    Heh it's hard to say, there are usually travelling groups who do a tour of queuing early. I had to arrive the night before the Berlin show to get to the front last year.

    Plus having won the lottery in Canada and getting the best seats in the house which meant strolling down into them at 8.30pm is quite the irony.
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  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    Brisk. wrote:
    Heh it's hard to say, there are usually travelling groups who do a tour of queuing early. I had to arrive the night before the Berlin show to get to the front last year.

    good god you PJ people are freaking hardcore. may I say...challenge accepted! ;)

    manchester will be my first PJ show, and I'll have the pleasure to be going with a friend from portugal who now lives in the UK...we met on the pumpkins board almost 10 years ago, and now we'll finally have the pleasure to see a show together. this is going to be freaking amazing. and her being the person who first introduced me to this band too...so looking forward to it!
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    Kathi wrote:
    Brisk. wrote:
    Heh it's hard to say, there are usually travelling groups who do a tour of queuing early. I had to arrive the night before the Berlin show to get to the front last year.

    good god you PJ people are freaking hardcore. may I say...challenge accepted! ;)

    manchester will be my first PJ show, and I'll have the pleasure to be going with a friend from portugal who now lives in the UK...we met on the pumpkins board almost 10 years ago, and now we'll finally have the pleasure to see a show together. this is going to be freaking amazing. and her being the person who first introduced me to this band too...so looking forward to it!

    Fantastic, Pumpkins are my joint fave band with PJ, travelled a bit in 07 and other years to see em as I wasn't really around back in the 90s was great. Enjoy the show!!
  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    Brisk. wrote:
    Kathi wrote:
    Brisk. wrote:
    Heh it's hard to say, there are usually travelling groups who do a tour of queuing early. I had to arrive the night before the Berlin show to get to the front last year.

    good god you PJ people are freaking hardcore. may I say...challenge accepted! ;)

    manchester will be my first PJ show, and I'll have the pleasure to be going with a friend from portugal who now lives in the UK...we met on the pumpkins board almost 10 years ago, and now we'll finally have the pleasure to see a show together. this is going to be freaking amazing. and her being the person who first introduced me to this band too...so looking forward to it!

    Fantastic, Pumpkins are my joint fave band with PJ, travelled a bit in 07 and other years to see em as I wasn't really around back in the 90s was great. Enjoy the show!!

    thanks, I'm sure I will! Pumpkins were the band that defined my youth, I saw them when I was 14, on their farewell tour in 2000...wasn't too impressed with what they did since, but I've seen them live a few weeks ago and the show was pretty awesome!
    I had this stupid "you're a Nirvana fan, you can't like PJ" thing going when I first got into music...can't believe what I missed out on looking back!
  • Berlin 09...

    ring ring..
    me:yeah
    Marjolein:hey Dimitris,where are u\?
    me:at the hotel..what happen?what time is it?
    Marjolein:we are at the venue,its 5:30 am..50 people are already here..come now..
    me: tell them you are all nuts..ill come around ..9 am.. :lol::lol:

    9:30 am..11 hours before the show starts 300 freaks was there..already..

    1st row my ass..only brisk can run that steps..
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  • Tboz51Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    Berlin 09...

    ring ring..
    me:yeah
    Marjolein:hey Dimitris,where are u\?
    me:at the hotel..what happen?what time is it?
    Marjolein:we are at the venue,its 5:30 am..50 people are already here..come now..
    me: tell them you are all nuts..ill come around ..9 am.. :lol::lol:

    9:30 am..11 hours before the show starts 300 freaks was there..already..

    1st row my ass..only brisk can run that steps..
    :mrgreen:
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)
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