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Chili Peppers in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame

SpokenJeremySpokenJeremy Posts: 604
edited December 2011 in Other Music
Just read that the Chilil Peppers will be inducted this April. Perhaps members of PJ will induct them?
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    I thought they were just nominated. They mentioned the Beastie Boys and GNR as well. Did they get in or just nominated?
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  • SpokenJeremySpokenJeremy Posts: 604
    youngster wrote:
    I thought they were just nominated. They mentioned the Beastie Boys and GNR as well. Did they get in or just nominated?

    According to CNN they are officially in along with GNR, Beastie Boys and Donovan

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/07/showbiz/r ... ?hpt=hp_c3
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  • MangoMango Brisbane, Australia (via Dublin, Ireland) Posts: 1,049
    Just a shame they make absolutely awful music these days. Haven't been relevant in a long time IMO.
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  • SpokenJeremySpokenJeremy Posts: 604
    Mango wrote:
    Just a shame they make absolutely awful music these days. Haven't been relevant in a long time IMO.

    Same goes for Beastie Boys and GNR. Though I wonder if the original memebers of GNR will show up and actually play together. Could be interesting.
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  • MayDay MaloneMayDay Malone Posts: 641
    TacoJammer wrote:
    Mango wrote:
    Just a shame they make absolutely awful music these days. Haven't been relevant in a long time IMO.

    Same goes for Beastie Boys and GNR. Though I wonder if the original memebers of GNR will show up and actually play together. Could be interesting.

    Regarding the comment on the Beastie Boys, I disrespectfully disagree.
  • EmBleveEmBleve Posts: 3,019
    That's awesome. Donovan is very cool, too. there sure are some haters.
  • HILDEHILDE Posts: 130
    TacoJammer wrote:
    Mango wrote:
    Just a shame they make absolutely awful music these days. Haven't been relevant in a long time IMO.


    Same goes for Beastie Boys and GNR. Though I wonder if the original memebers of GNR will show up and actually play together. Could be interesting.


    WOW, Really? You must have been the person everyone made fun of because you jammed out alone to Madonna & Michael Jackson holding a ruler as your microphone. GNR & Axl kick ass & you know it. Beastie Boys - pioneers for rap - period end!
  • EquallyWorthlessEquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    HILDE wrote:
    WOW, Really? You must have been the person everyone made fun of because you jammed out alone to Madonna & Michael Jackson holding a ruler as your microphone. GNR & Axl kick ass & you know it. Beastie Boys - pioneers for rap - period end!

    LOL. Read - "You don't share the same tastes as me! Therefore you suck and you are a loser who listens to crap!"

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  • direwolf74direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    TacoJammer wrote:
    Mango wrote:
    Just a shame they make absolutely awful music these days. Haven't been relevant in a long time IMO.

    Same goes for Beastie Boys and GNR. Though I wonder if the original memebers of GNR will show up and actually play together. Could be interesting.

    Doubtful. Maybe if Axl can put aside his silly grudge and stop being a douchebag for 5 minutes, there's a slim chance they might play together. The likely scenario is that the rest of the guys will show up, but Axl will refuse to walk on stage unless he can bring his Gn'R cover band with him. He'll probably insist that his current band is the one being inducted, not the original one. It'll be entertaining to see how it all goes down.
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  • Bu$chlagerBu$chlager Posts: 498
    I really don't understand how someone could say RHCP haven't been relevant recently? They are one of the biggest bands in the world - far bigger than Pearl Jam.

    Not being a fan of their music is one thing, but to say they aren't relevant makes no sense to me.
  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    BUSH-lager wrote:
    I really don't understand how someone could say RHCP haven't been relevant recently? They are one of the biggest bands in the world - far bigger than Pearl Jam.

    Not being a fan of their music is one thing, but to say they aren't relevant makes no sense to me.

    Yeah, they definately have more "hits" than PJ. I mean since 91, the Peppers have had at least 2 hits off each record. With the exception of The Fixer and Just Breathe, Pearl jam hasn't had a radio hit since 98.
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  • stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    youngster wrote:
    BUSH-lager wrote:
    I really don't understand how someone could say RHCP haven't been relevant recently? They are one of the biggest bands in the world - far bigger than Pearl Jam.

    Not being a fan of their music is one thing, but to say they aren't relevant makes no sense to me.

    Yeah, they definately have more "hits" than PJ. I mean since 91, the Peppers have had at least 2 hits off each record. With the exception of The Fixer and Just Breathe, Pearl jam hasn't had a radio hit since 98.

    Radio=Good music=Relevant?
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    stickfig13 wrote:
    youngster wrote:
    BUSH-lager wrote:
    I really don't understand how someone could say RHCP haven't been relevant recently? They are one of the biggest bands in the world - far bigger than Pearl Jam.

    Not being a fan of their music is one thing, but to say they aren't relevant makes no sense to me.

    Yeah, they definately have more "hits" than PJ. I mean since 91, the Peppers have had at least 2 hits off each record. With the exception of The Fixer and Just Breathe, Pearl jam hasn't had a radio hit since 98.

    Radio=Good music=Relevant?

    Well, before the internet, bands released singles early to radio stations to create buzz and to help sell records. So radio was important in selling records in the past. Pearl jam didn't have much luck releasing singles since Binaural-Avocado weren't huge commercial successes. RHCP put out a lot of good music and have a solid fan base. If that isn't relevant enough, than I don't know what is.
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  • stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    [/quote]

    Well, before the internet, bands released singles early to radio stations to create buzz and to help sell records. So radio was important in selling records in the past. Pearl jam didn't have much luck releasing singles since Binaural-Avocado weren't huge commercial successes. RHCP put out a lot of good music and have a solid fan base. If that isn't relevant enough, than I don't know what is.[/quote]

    You're equating commercial success with quality. We both know that's not true these days. Hasn't been that way for a long time
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Pearl Jam is my favorite band. The Chili Peppers are my second favorite. I happen to think they are a great band. They have put out some great albums and lots of hidden gems on those albums that don't get any attention. I think they are deserving to be in the HOF, as Pearl Jam is as well. It's cool if you don't care for them, you're not hurting my feelings. But to say they aren't relevant musically is nuts.
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  • Bu$chlagerBu$chlager Posts: 498
    stickfig13 wrote:
    You're equating commercial success with quality. We both know that's not true these days. Hasn't been that way for a long time

    I was equating commercial success with relevancy.

    You can say any bands music is garbage, and I can say it's genius, and vice-versa. Art is subjective, of course.

    What's not really subjective is how wide an artists relevancy is. A band like the Chili Peppers, with incredible commercial success, a lot of fans in a lot of different demographics and continues to put out music that masses love, to me passes the "relevancy" test.

    I think Pearl Jam is a better band, obviously, or I'd be posting on a RHCP board. But Pearl Jam is not nearly as relevant.

    Case in point: I'm 28 - I bought the Chili Peppers new album the week it came out. My Mom is pushing 60 - she bought it too. My Mom babysits for a 9 year old (non-relative) - he has it on his iPod.

    Quality can always be questioned, (although I personally think they are still an incredible band) - but relevancy cannot.
  • Of The AggieOf The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,531
    That fact that The Cure was passed over, possibly, in favor of the RHCP is just plain wrong! I haven't cared about the RHCP since 1991. They've had a few catchy songs since then, but The Cure has a 30+ year history of producing great music and are absolutely more relevant and a better band than the RHCP. Basically proving that popularity and sales trump everything else.
  • Bu$chlagerBu$chlager Posts: 498
    Of The Aggie wrote:
    Basically proving that popularity and sales trump everything else.

    Popularity and sales = Relevancy! How else can you define it???

    If I shredded the nastiest guitar and wrote amazing lyrics, but I only played in my basement, it doesn't matter about the quality of my art. If only close friends and family love it, I'm not relevant to anyone but them.

    The Red Hot Chili Peppers are one of the most relevant rock acts going. You may like The Cure more than them, and that makes The Cure more relevant to YOU, but overall, RHCP are incredibly relevant today, and have sustained that relevancy better than most bands.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    BUSH-lager wrote:
    Of The Aggie wrote:
    Basically proving that popularity and sales trump everything else.

    Popularity and sales = Relevancy! How else can you define it???

    If I shredded the nastiest guitar and wrote amazing lyrics, but I only played in my basement, it doesn't matter about the quality of my art. If only close friends and family love it, I'm not relevant to anyone but them.

    The Red Hot Chili Peppers are one of the most relevant rock acts going. You may like The Cure more than them, and that makes The Cure more relevant to YOU, but overall, RHCP are incredibly relevant today, and have sustained that relevancy better than most bands.

    Influence, imo is the greatest sign of relevance.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,197
    Of The Aggie wrote:
    That fact that The Cure was passed over, possibly, in favor of the RHCP is just plain wrong! I haven't cared about the RHCP since 1991. They've had a few catchy songs since then, but The Cure has a 30+ year history
    of producing great music and are
    absolutely more relevant and a better
    band than the RHCP. Basically proving
    that popularity and sales trump everything
    else.

    To each you love on your own. I love them both I don't think one is more revelent than the other...do remember this is all voted on by unknown people with varying tastes in music. The Cure not getting in change your love of their music... I doubt it very much. These are the very same peeps who have NEVER even nominated RUSH....that fact changes nothing for my love of Rush.

    I hope they NEVER get in.

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  • tvismyfriendtvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    HILDE wrote:
    TacoJammer wrote:
    Mango wrote:
    Just a shame they make absolutely awful music these days. Haven't been relevant in a long time IMO.


    Same goes for Beastie Boys and GNR. Though I wonder if the original memebers of GNR will show up and actually play together. Could be interesting.


    WOW, Really? You must have been the person everyone made fun of because you jammed out alone to Madonna & Michael Jackson holding a ruler as your microphone. GNR & Axl kick ass & you know it. Beastie Boys - pioneers for rap - period end!
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  • Of The AggieOf The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,531
    DewieCox wrote:
    BUSH-lager wrote:
    Of The Aggie wrote:
    Basically proving that popularity and sales trump everything else.

    Popularity and sales = Relevancy! How else can you define it???

    If I shredded the nastiest guitar and wrote amazing lyrics, but I only played in my basement, it doesn't matter about the quality of my art. If only close friends and family love it, I'm not relevant to anyone but them.

    The Red Hot Chili Peppers are one of the most relevant rock acts going. You may like The Cure more than them, and that makes The Cure more relevant to YOU, but overall, RHCP are incredibly relevant today, and have sustained that relevancy better than most bands.

    Influence, imo is the greatest sign of relevance.

    I can agree with this..and quite a lot of musicians have listed The Cure as an influence. The RHCP, not so much.
  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    BUSH-Lager is making a lot of sense in this thread. well spoken
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  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    Of The Aggie wrote:
    I can agree with this..and quite a lot of musicians have listed The Cure as an influence. The RHCP, not so much.

    many musicians have been influenced by the Chili Peppers over the past 25 years. I don't see how one could say otherwise.
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    When the RHCP began, their sound was very original - no one else sounded quite like them. I haven't like their later music as much but those early albums rocked - esp. Mother's Milk, and of course Blood Sugar. They were very different than others around them at the time. That, I believe is one important factor in someone going into the HOF - creating a new sound.

    Of course the Cure were original too, and I love them, and I hope they get in next time. I mean, how many times did it take IGGY POP to get in?
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    TacoJammer wrote:
    Just read that the Chilil Peppers will be inducted this April. Perhaps members of PJ will induct them?

    if anyone inducts them, I bet it's George Clinton.
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    BUSH-lager wrote:
    Of The Aggie wrote:
    Basically proving that popularity and sales trump everything else.

    Popularity and sales = Relevancy! How else can you define it???

    If I shredded the nastiest guitar and wrote amazing lyrics, but I only played in my basement, it doesn't matter about the quality of my art. If only close friends and family love it, I'm not relevant to anyone but them.

    The Red Hot Chili Peppers are one of the most relevant rock acts going. You may like The Cure more than them, and that makes The Cure more relevant to YOU, but overall, RHCP are incredibly relevant today, and have sustained that relevancy better than most bands.

    relevancy in music is too subjective to quantify.
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  • Bu$chlagerBu$chlager Posts: 498
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    BUSH-lager wrote:
    Of The Aggie wrote:
    Basically proving that popularity and sales trump everything else.

    Popularity and sales = Relevancy! How else can you define it???

    If I shredded the nastiest guitar and wrote amazing lyrics, but I only played in my basement, it doesn't matter about the quality of my art. If only close friends and family love it, I'm not relevant to anyone but them.

    The Red Hot Chili Peppers are one of the most relevant rock acts going. You may like The Cure more than them, and that makes The Cure more relevant to YOU, but overall, RHCP are incredibly relevant today, and have sustained that relevancy better than most bands.

    relevancy in music is too subjective to quantify.

    I don't really think so - what is so subjective about it?

    I like DewieCox's line about current acts citing you as an influence. I agree that also makes you relevant. But again, the people citing you as an influence have to be popular commercially as well. If I cite The Cure as an influence, and I'm playing amazing music in my basement, who cares? Very few. That doesn't make me, or the cure relevant. If the Red Hot Chili Peppers, who I think are incredibly relevant, cite The Cure as an influence, then many more "relevancy" points are scored.

    In general, I find Pearl Jam fans really hate the relevancy arguement, because it really does all come back to how many people you're reaching. The most popular acts are the most relevant acts - that's all there is too it. Underground music, cult followings, and niche audiences may have hardcore relevancy among that base of fans, but culturally relevant to the masses they are not.

    Most Pearl Jam fans scoff at this and go "Who cares about the masses anyway, if it's popular and on the radio it must be rubbish anyway, because if a lot of people like it it must be cheap and shallow and produced by tools of the industry."

    And around and around we go...
  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    BUSH-lager wrote:
    Most Pearl Jam fans scoff at this and go "Who cares about the masses anyway, if it's popular and on the radio it must be rubbish anyway, because if a lot of people like it it must be cheap and shallow and produced by tools of the industry."

    And around and around we go...


    Most Pearl Jam fans wouldn't be saying that if Pearl Jam (new material) was on the radio more often and they were more popular. ;)
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