Canadian Health Needs To Include Co-Pay

polaris_x

Kel Varnsen wrote:

But why the need to register every gun to implement that system in the first place? The police can search drivers licences without having a separate police system set up, just by accessing MTO records. Firearms licences are managed by the RCMP so why not just set up a system to allow other law enforcement agencies to search that database, without having to set up a whole separate system where people have to register individual guns, that requires a whole bunch of additional governement workers to manage it.

but those are provincial databases ... can a police officer in BC search someone in PEI now? ... i'm not too sure ... what you are proposing is gonna cost a whack load of money to integrate ... why do that when we already have something that works?

lukin2006

Kel Varnsen wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

Kel Varnsen wrote:

But again I ask, if the government is arleady keeping track of how many people have firearms licences, how much more information, with relation to public safety, does keeping track of every last gun those licence holders own really give them?

there is no system by which the police can query that info without the registry ... that's the point of the registry ...

But why the need to register every gun to implement that system in the first place? The police can search drivers licences without having a separate police system set up, just by accessing MTO records. Firearms licences are managed by the RCMP so why not just set up a system to allow other law enforcement agencies to search that database, without having to set up a whole separate system where people have to register individual guns, that requires a whole bunch of additional governement workers to manage it.

Because that would be make sense...not something the government likes to do...your right they could have improved the existing system.

Kel Varnsen

polaris_x wrote:

Kel Varnsen wrote:

But why the need to register every gun to implement that system in the first place? The police can search drivers licences without having a separate police system set up, just by accessing MTO records. Firearms licences are managed by the RCMP so why not just set up a system to allow other law enforcement agencies to search that database, without having to set up a whole separate system where people have to register individual guns, that requires a whole bunch of additional governement workers to manage it.

but those are provincial databases ... can a police officer in BC search someone in PEI now? ... i'm not too sure ... what you are proposing is gonna cost a whack load of money to integrate ... why do that when we already have something that works?

Why would it cost any more to implement. Like I said the RCMP issues firearms licences, not any of the provinces. Firearms licences were in place long before there was any kind of gun registry. As long as the list of people with firearms licences isn't in a filing cabinet and is actually on a computer somewhere, I don't see why giving local cops access to it would be that hard. Even when the gun registry is gone, the government is still going to be issuing fire arms licences for anyone who wants to buy a gun, and I really don't see why making those people register every gun they own makes anything safer.

lukin2006

polaris_x wrote:

Kel Varnsen wrote:

But why the need to register every gun to implement that system in the first place? The police can search drivers licences without having a separate police system set up, just by accessing MTO records. Firearms licences are managed by the RCMP so why not just set up a system to allow other law enforcement agencies to search that database, without having to set up a whole separate system where people have to register individual guns, that requires a whole bunch of additional governement workers to manage it.

but those are provincial databases ... can a police officer in BC search someone in PEI now? ... i'm not too sure ... what you are proposing is gonna cost a whack load of money to integrate ... why do that when we already have something that works?

who says it works. the police? these same individuals that violate people rights on a regular basis? how many lost their jobs after the G20? did the chief of police in Toronto lose his job

Whether you like it or not...it will soon be history. Personally dont care either way...just that it should be paid for and supported by gun owners, just like us who have cars or passports pay and support the system.

polaris_x

lukin2006 wrote:

who says it works. the police? these same individuals that violate people rights on a regular basis? how many lost their jobs after the G20? did the chief of police in Toronto lose his job

Whether you like it or not...it will soon be history. Personally dont care either way...just that it should be paid for and supported by gun owners, just like us who have cars or passports pay and support the system.

hey ... i'm not a fan of the police - especially when it came to the G20 ... i do think that it isn't just a black and white thing tho ... first and foremost, the feds ignored the police and the city by hosting the fucking event in the heart of toronto ... so, already they were put in a bad position ... then i'm sure there was some pressure from either the provincial or federal gov't to proceed in a certain way ...

having said that - i'm not absolving them for their actions ... but if we look at occupy toronto ... they managed that a hundred times better so have to credit them for not repeating their mistakes ...