Disturbing Crossfit video...

EZ1221C

DS1119 wrote:

I'm not trying to insult you so please don't take offense. All I can say is that weight lifting video is horrible and those pull ups aren't any better. As someone who has dislocated their shoulder enough that I had to have surgery and my range of motion is about 60% I know bad shit for the shoulders...and those pull ups are horrible. Using momentum so you can do more and faster pullups...what's the point?

And the cult thing, I'm sorry...but alot of the Crossfit sites I visited today referred to themselves a s a cult. Please expalin?

I understand that video is horrible. I am not trying to defend that in any way. I personally feel that the video you posted was probably the result of some very very poor coaching. Can't blame Crossfit for that, blame the coach. I have never seen that movement coached the way it was in the video. That looked to be a clean and jerk, with way too much weight for those girls, along with some poor coaching on form trying to get the bar up. They are using a traditional deadlift grip to clean, which causes that awkward and extremely unsafe position in the middle where they have to switch the grip. To me, that entire video is an awful example of what Crossfit is.
As for the pullups, it is really personally preference. I know some people that do them that way, and many who do not. The majority of Crossfit gyms I have been to do not teach that method or teach it in a limited capacity, but I am sure it is prevalent. Across the board, I have been told that modified pullups in the form of band assistance, or replacing them all together with an exercise like ring rows are better if you cannot do dead hang pullups rather than do pullups with the "kip".

As to the "cult", in all the Crossfit gyms I have been too, I have never heard it referred to as a cult. Cult to me has an extremely negative connotation. Everyone really has each other's backs, to the extent that it is more of a community than a cult.

Crossfit is not bad. What's bad and dangerous is poor coaching, incorrect movement, and ego. If done correctly, Crossfit is extremely extremely effective and safe and can be an awesome form of exercise.
Here are some links if you want to read up or watch a little more safe exercise.
http://www.crossfit.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzD9BkXGJ1M&feature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrossFit

DS1119

Thank you EZ for some insight. I watched your links and they looked pretty cool. What I liked was they were contolled (except for those pull up excercises in the second video...I still don't understand that). I'm all for intense excercise as long as it's controlled. I had a coach in high school tell me one time it's better to do 10 sit ups properly that 100 improperly. I truly believe that.

DS1119

brianlux wrote:

The potential for injury, the future arthritis in wrists and hands and shoulders- these alone make this video disturbing. This is anything but a well balanced exercise routine. :thumbdown:

Sorry I missed your post earlier...yes it's quite disturbing actually.

NoCode416

i haven't read through all of the posts, but i'm a crossfitter and it is easily the best workout regimen i have ever dedicated myself to. just youtube "crossfit games" and you'll see what it's all about.

it's cult-like in the same way that pearl jam fans spending hours a day on the official message board is cult-like.

that said, i have never seen this odd method that these people are using to clean the bar off the ground... i'll lean forward sometimes in the middle of a WOD called the Bear Complex, with the bar "resting" in my waist area, but this leaning back thing that they're doing while they fix their grip is odd looking. but just so you guys know, that is not nearly as much weight as you may think it is.

bottom line - no need to hate on crossfit until you've visited your local box!

DS1119

NoCode416 wrote:

i haven't read through all of the posts, but i'm a crossfitter and it is easily the best workout regimen i have ever dedicated myself to. just youtube "crossfit games" and you'll see what it's all about.

it's cult-like in the same way that pearl jam fans spending hours a day on the official message board is cult-like.

that said, i have never seen this odd method that these people are using to clean the bar off the ground... i'll lean forward sometimes in the middle of a WOD called the Bear Complex, with the bar "resting" in my waist area, but this leaning back thing that they're doing while they fix their grip is odd looking. but just so you guys know, that is not nearly as much weight as you may think it is.

bottom line - no need to hate on crossfit until you've visited your local box!

I'm not hating on Crossfit it's just the video I posted...if that's some of the stuff being taught...scary.

NoCode416

DS1119 wrote:

NoCode416 wrote:

i haven't read through all of the posts, but i'm a crossfitter and it is easily the best workout regimen i have ever dedicated myself to. just youtube "crossfit games" and you'll see what it's all about.

it's cult-like in the same way that pearl jam fans spending hours a day on the official message board is cult-like.

that said, i have never seen this odd method that these people are using to clean the bar off the ground... i'll lean forward sometimes in the middle of a WOD called the Bear Complex, with the bar "resting" in my waist area, but this leaning back thing that they're doing while they fix their grip is odd looking. but just so you guys know, that is not nearly as much weight as you may think it is.

bottom line - no need to hate on crossfit until you've visited your local box!

I'm not hating on Crossfit it's just the video I posted...if that's some of the stuff being taught...scary.

sorry, didn't mean for the last line to be taken negatively... but rather, motivationally (word?)! crossfit is awesome. i've never met a person who left crossfit for any reason other than cost (typically $150 per month for unlimited vs. regular gym $50 per month).

DS1119

NoCode416 wrote:

I'm not hating on Crossfit it's just the video I posted...if that's some of the stuff being taught...scary.

sorry, didn't mean for the last line to be taken negatively... but rather, motivationally (word?)! crossfit is awesome. i've never met a person who left crossfit for any reason other than cost (typically $150 per month for unlimited vs. regular gym $50 per month).[/quote]


No problem but tell you what, if I walked into a Crossfit and saw what I saw in the viedo going on I'd do a 180 and leave.

NoCode416

DS1119 wrote:

NoCode416 wrote:

I'm not hating on Crossfit it's just the video I posted...if that's some of the stuff being taught...scary.

sorry, didn't mean for the last line to be taken negatively... but rather, motivationally (word?)! crossfit is awesome. i've never met a person who left crossfit for any reason other than cost (typically $150 per month for unlimited vs. regular gym $50 per month).

No problem but tell you what, if I walked into a Crossfit and saw what I saw in the viedo going on I'd do a 180 and leave.[/quote]

as would i.

DS1119

NoCode416 wrote:

as would i.

Good to hear it's not some blind loyalty amongst members.

12345AGNST1

ummm.... that shit looks really heavy. A young girl like that was able to lift that? I don't even think I would be able to do that.

How heavy are those weights?

DS1119

12345AGNST1 wrote:

ummm.... that shit looks really heavy. A young girl like that was able to lift that? I don't even think I would be able to do that.

How heavy are those weights?

Total weight including the bar is 115lbs. Not a huge amount of weight..but then again may be how much some of those girls weigh. What alarmed me was the total lack of training they had while attempting what they were were doing. One girl dropped the bar on her head and another was laughing during it...that's how people get seriously hurt. In the way society seems to be programmed now with the whole "extreme" mentality I think alot of basics are just not being taught. I don't lift weights anymore but I remember when I was my coach wouldn't let me put weight on the bar until I had all of the movements of the excercise down pat. He would have never let me throw a bar around like that contorting my back and fumbling all over the place. Just ridiculous IMO.

Dru_Cortez

This looks incredibly awkward,
+ dangerous,
+ I can't really see many
benefits to such "exercise."
Odd.
Cheers.

DS1119

Dru_Cortez wrote:

This looks incredibly awkward,
+ dangerous,
+ I can't really see many
benefits to such "exercise."
Odd.
Cheers.

Yeah this video is disturbing. I have looked at alot of Crossft over the past two days and a decent amount seems good but to me they are doing things just way too fast. They are trying to combine aerobic workouts with weightlifting which in theory is great, but in reality doesn't work well...especially when good form is not used.

Callaway

I've seen many athletes puke their guts out from a crossfit workout.

DS1119

Wink wrote:

I've seen many athletes puke their guts out from a crossfit workout.

Yeah, and this Crossfit video made me want to puke my guts out!