Heroin

chadwick

who do you think brings dope into this country? the answer is...several different groups. one of these groups is the u.s. itself. basically if you trust government you're living in fantasy land and will be in for a big shock someday. and that is all i have to say.

pandora

chadwick wrote:

who do you think brings dope into this country? the answer is...several different groups. one of these groups is the u.s. itself. basically if you trust government you're living in fantasy land and will be in for a big shock someday. and that is all i have to say.

totally agree

chadwick

imalive wrote:

my wife was watching some lisa ling thing on the oprah network...now, normally, I run like hell from the oprah network but this was about a heroin "epidemic" not too far from where I grew up (ohio). I was shocked how heroin could infiltrate your basic, podunk midwestern town. sad, sad shit

i was born and raised in very much the midwest, iowa. i moved to WA about 9 years ago or so. i never saw heroin or a heroin user until i moved out west. and now living back in iowa i still do not see or even hear of any heroin or heroin addicts here.

catefrances

pandora wrote:

:? you might change that once they are addicted to a killer drug... just saying

doubtful. might hide the cutlery tho.

STAYSEA

Oh No! Come to Broward County if you want to see the sick! 24 doctors... have the authority to prescribe heavy NARCs, that was the count according to the U.S. surgon general . 17 of those Doctors practice "pain management" in my County!!!!. I sliced my hand open while cooking... I needed stiches! I went to all the nearest clinics, trying to get a stich or two, maybe a tetnis shot? WEll the only places avalible only had drugs "medicine" and not doctor on duty. I can get Oxycotin , loratab, crack, pretty much anything but a band aid . You think Zombies are a joke! They are all over South Florida. I forgot how many people in my "county" overdose and die everyday. the count was like 8? people die everyday? I guess florida is too fancy to low grade street drugs? I'm moving far away before the year ends, btw! I wouldn't make stuff up. I do have cited sources, and a dictionary... too lazy.

EVACUATION!!!!

pandora

please don't let your guard down ... seen it with way too many parents

"not my child!"

it can be anyone's child and it is a living nightmare once you are there

chadwick

but in aberdeen washington i saw used needles constantly whilst working my way to and from school.

a list of places i've found used needles. (doesn't mean it was used to shoot heroin either)
sidewalks...aberdeen
bus stops...aberdeen
bus...highway heading to aberdeen
bus station restroom...aberdeen
gas station shitter...aberdeen
the public library shitter...aberdeen

i think aberdeen has a heroin user or users. it could be insulin or even coke or meth they shot up. hhhmmmmm.

probably black tar heroin. the needle i found on the bus was loaded fulla black shit. it was scary looking to me.

once in iowa i found a marijuana seed. somebody had some seeding ass weed.

pandora

Big busts here on the news recently...Fed and GBI sting

people driving from faraway states to get prescription painkillers illegally
in what looked like legit pharmacies, Doctor offices and pain clinics.

Workers/ Doctors arrested but the customers went on home empty handed.
Long drive for nothing ... news crews got a few gestures ... they were pissed.

Cosmo

STAYSEA wrote:

Oh No! Come to Broward County if you want to see the sick! 24 doctors... have the authority to prescribe heavy NARCs, that was the count according to the U.S. surgon general . 17 of those Doctors practice "pain management" in my County!!!!. I sliced my hand open while cooking... I needed stiches! I went to all the nearest clinics, trying to get a stich or two, maybe a tetnis shot? WEll the only places avalible only had drugs "medicine" and not doctor on duty. I can get Oxycotin , loratab, crack, pretty much anything but a band aid . You think Zombies are a joke! They are all over South Florida. I forgot how many people in my "county" overdose and die everyday. the count was like 8? people die everyday? I guess florida is too fancy to low grade street drugs? I'm moving far away before the year ends, btw! I wouldn't make stuff up. I do have cited sources, and a dictionary... too lazy.

EVACUATION!!!!

...
There are a lot of people addicted to prescription drugs... because a lot of doctors are willing to write out the prescriptions to get kickbacks from the pharmaceutical companies.
One of America's greatest addictions in money.

mickeyrat

Heroin use seems to ebb and flow. Seems to correspond with war in that region. Warlords need cash to get ammo or weapons? Grow more poppy. Fact of life and NOTHING will change it.


For myself, it was strange. Had been offered that shit twice in my life. What little I knew about it was enough to know I might like it too much. So I never tried it. Still resisted doing something about my "problems" for an awful long time after that.


There IS help available that DOESNT involve methadone. Which in my opinion isnt a solution to H addiction.

The USER has to want the help, otherwise using will start again.

Cosmo

imalive wrote:

lately, I've been watching and reading a lot of reports about our (USA) heroin addiction epidemic. it kind of blows my mind that this stuff can find it's way out of afghanistan, across the ocean, thru our borders/ports and on into the heartland of our country.

is this an american problem or do all "developed" countries have heroin problems? what about meth? has that made it to europe is is that an american thing? as John Kay said "Goddamn the pusher man!"

our ongoing "war on drugs" needs to take a new direction...

...
"President Bush believes crop substitution is a viable option. Bush believes crops such as pomegranates,
honeydew melons, wheat, and corn are all practical alternatives to poppy cultivation."
ref. http://www.nobleworld.biz/images/Zanavich.pdf
...
Okay... this is why I was pissed off at the Bush Administration in 2005. I mean, seriously... HoneyDew Melons? Competing on the global market with commercially grown melons? What is worth more to some Afghan farmer... heroin or HoneyDew Melons?
Was Bush actually ON heroin when he thought this up?

catefrances

Cosmo wrote:

imalive wrote:

lately, I've been watching and reading a lot of reports about our (USA) heroin addiction epidemic. it kind of blows my mind that this stuff can find it's way out of afghanistan, across the ocean, thru our borders/ports and on into the heartland of our country.

is this an american problem or do all "developed" countries have heroin problems? what about meth? has that made it to europe is is that an american thing? as John Kay said "Goddamn the pusher man!"

our ongoing "war on drugs" needs to take a new direction...

...
"President Bush believes crop substitution is a viable option. Bush believes crops such as pomegranates,
honeydew melons, wheat, and corn are all practical alternatives to poppy cultivation."
ref. http://www.nobleworld.biz/images/Zanavich.pdf
...
Okay... this is why I was pissed off at the Bush Administration in 2005. I mean, seriously... HoneyDew Melons? Competing on the global market with commercially grown melons? What is worth more to some Afghan farmer... heroin or HoneyDew Melons?
Was Bush actually ON heroin when he thought this up?

nope... just drunk on pomegranate juice.

Cosmo

catefrances wrote:

nope... just drunk on pomegranate juice.

...
Mmmmmm. Pomegranate juice.
That's some gooooooood shit, man.

Cosmo

STAYSEA wrote:

Oh No! Come to Broward County if you want to see the sick! 24 doctors... have the authority to prescribe heavy NARCs, that was the count according to the U.S. surgon general . 17 of those Doctors practice "pain management" in my County!!!!. I sliced my hand open while cooking... I needed stiches! I went to all the nearest clinics, trying to get a stich or two, maybe a tetnis shot? WEll the only places avalible only had drugs "medicine" and not doctor on duty. I can get Oxycotin , loratab, crack, pretty much anything but a band aid . You think Zombies are a joke! They are all over South Florida. I forgot how many people in my "county" overdose and die everyday. the count was like 8? people die everyday? I guess florida is too fancy to low grade street drugs? I'm moving far away before the year ends, btw! I wouldn't make stuff up. I do have cited sources, and a dictionary... too lazy.

EVACUATION!!!!

...
P.S. I like your cat. Looks like a cat that used to live in my house.

gimmesometruth27

there is a massive problem with heroin in the cahokia/collinsville/belleville IL area. a lot of high school kids are on that shit. why the fuck would they begin using iv drugs???

the doctor i work with had a cousin die of a heroin overdose last year. he was 16 and went to an exclusive private school. it can happen, even in what people think are the best of kids.

didn't former nfl qb erik kramer lose his 17 year old son to heroin overdose last week??

catefrances

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

there is a massive problem with heroin in the cahokia/collinsville/belleville IL area. a lot of high school kids are on that shit. why the fuck would they begin using iv drugs???

the doctor i work with had a cousin die of a heroin overdose last year. he was 16 and went to an exclusive private school. it can happen, even in what people think are the best of kids.

didn't former nfl qb erik kramer lose his 17 year old son to heroin overdose last week??

kids get bored and are always looking for something to alleviate that. they also have that immortality streak and sadly thats an illusion.

keeponrockin

pandora wrote:

keeponrockin wrote:

pandora wrote:

War on Drugs... Battle those drugs until they can not exist and
I have faith that someday they will not be desired anymore.

I don't think that works, it hasn't. Put money into treatment, don't throw the dude with a joint in jail.

joint :? who's talking about weed?

we are talking junk... killer junk

the kind that takes your child to the point you, even as a parent,
wishes they were dead.

How has the 'War on Drugs' solved that problem?

WaveCameCrashin

I have to agree with libertarians on this...


http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=nLsCC0LZxkY

pandora

WaveCameCrashin wrote:

I have to agree with libertarians on this...


http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=nLsCC0LZxkY

that link doesn't work for me ... help

I'm interested in your opinion

pandora

keeponrockin wrote:

pandora wrote:

How has the 'War on Drugs' solved that problem?

well if they would stop battling weed and get tough on the hard drugs that would help

also 10 - 15 years ago we didn't have the scare tactic anti drug program we do now
it was just say no to drugs when my kids were in school
it didn't have the shock value as to why say no ... it was also law enforcement
that was in the schools, in many cases that is not a teenager's friend.

I do feel some years down the road we will see less drug addiction,
it would help if adults would say no to prescription drugs too though.
As I have mentioned in other posts, parents set the example and the tone
in the home and dictate who your adult child will be.

Children are little sponges long before we think they can understand.
If you don't want your child addicted don't be addicted yourself.... this includes all
'drugs'.

A child does not see the difference between drugs only that the parent is not themselves,
off limits, impaired and secretive in behavior or this is how they have fun and enjoy life.
This is learned adult behavior that may someday come back to haunt parents.