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how to handle a bad trade?
Lftdaporch
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So on halloween i mailed off sealed copies of yield and avacado to a board member. He told me he mailed the same day. He has received his package according to my ups tracking. I have yet to receive anything. After 10 days I asked for a tracking number, to which he replied his wife left it at work, it was a hectic week for him and don't worry he would never screw me, since he had been screwed once. He offered to mail my stuff back if I did not receive my end of the trade from him. I wait another week, then I sned a pm that simply states I have lost faith, to which he replies that he swears the package is on its way, still no tracking number or any other info.2 days ago i pm him "what is going on" the message is no longer in my inbox and I have not gotten a reply. Am I allowed to post their name on the forum? I do not want to be in trouble for bashing someone, but I want this resolved or at least make sure noone makes the same mistake I did.
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You may have just talked me out of trading here :?
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...and if you think they are deliberately not sending your item, you may want to inform Kat (the main moderator). I've had a few deals go bad on here. One of them was someone selling something and accepting paypal payments from multiple people for the same item, then not sending a thing, and apparently it was a scam. A few of us informed Kat and she was very appreciative of that... not that she could do anything but consider banning them, etc.
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Mr X,
Please send the package with items you promised and PM me tracking number by Wednesday, Nov 30. If you are not able to do this, please mail back my Avocado/Yield LPs by Thursday, Dec 1 and PM me tracking number. If you do not do this, I will have no choice but to out you on Lost Dogs which will have a negative impact on your reputation on the board.
I really do not wish to do this, but your lack of follow-through have made me incredibly uncomfortable and I wish to resolve this as soon as possible. I apologize if this is a result of any personal issues you may be having. If that's the case, all I ask is that you send me back my original items by Thursday Dec 1 and we can consider this resolved.
Sincerely,
Lftdaporch
Was this international...I know stuff coming from the US to Canada can take 8 - 10 weeks...
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exactly why I'm hesitant to trade!!!
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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That's true but I've traded more than a handful of times with some awesome people who I continue to talk with weekly. I've even met 2 of the people from here at a Soundgarden show to give them items. There's lots of great people on here that do trade.
OP I'd do what Suziemay suggested, assuming you're not dealing with an international transaction (these all take weeks it seems), this is way too long of a time period for the items not to show up. Good luck I hope it all gets resolved soon.
There are a lot of great people to trade with on here. There is a list of those that are very reputable. Don't let someone else's bad transaction deter you.
I agree. I haven't traded, just purchased/sold stuff but everyone's been wonderful. I generally check the person's post history to see if anything jumps out. Also, I will not send items/payment unless I get confirmation and sense a good vibe. Most people here won't screw you over, especially the active posters
you already did well to be patient and see whats going on...
in the end tell him to mail u back your records..i dont see any point to post names..cos there are judges in this forum that they know all and can burn u in fire without u can open your mouth.,.
and maybe next time u will be the one will be your package to delay,and for sure u wouldnt like to be burn,with out have the chance to say your part of the story..
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I do agree with this. Patience is a virtue. I like the original suggestion of giving them a chance to state what is actually going on. Maybe, he/she's forgetful, a procrastinator, or it's stuck in the mail system. Better to be cautious in "outing" someone. I also agree that at this point, it sounds like you're better off taking him up on his suggestion that he mail your stuff back to you.
But, at some point (and that's the tricky part - when is that? Ptobably better to do it later than sooner), I think the community does need to know who to be wary of.
But, as dimi so wisely put it - a public trial (thread) does nobody any good. So, be 1,000% sure and then double check, then just state FACTS without opinion, just to inform folks what's up (and what's down).
I would do what Susiemay suggested, and go from there. Good luck!
exactly why I'm hesitant to trade!!![/quote]
That's true but I've traded more than a handful of times with some awesome people who I continue to talk with weekly. I've even met 2 of the people from here at a Soundgarden show to give them items. There's lots of great people on here that do trade.
OP I'd do what Suziemay suggested, assuming you're not dealing with an international transaction (these all take weeks it seems), this is way too long of a time period for the items not to show up. Good luck I hope it all gets resolved soon.[/quote]
mike aka the messanger is easily the best person to trade with on this board. let that be known
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I'm of the opinion that outing someone is the last resort and I would do it only if I thought it would get that person's attention. I would need to be 100% sure I've tried everything to get hold of this person and that they are not otherwise in trouble, sick, had misfortune befall them etc otherwise I would feel like an asshole.
2 months sounds like a long time to me, have you followed-up and made clear your expectations? I'm assuming you have, but seriously there are some really forgetful people and while it's not right, it doesn't make them bad people.
sorry to hear. that is why I think 10c needs to create a feedback sub-thread that has each 10c member. you can leave positive and negative feedback. heck, I will even do it if they want
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1. i was not on a "good" trader list and i would like to think i am a good trader and will also give people the benefit of the doubt.
2. i made 2 other trades that same day which turned out well, let's not judge the many on actions of the few.
3. this guy was shipping from the u.s. so no international delays.
here is the timeline.
oct 25th trade was negotiated
oct 31st i shipped package to them with tracking number pmed same day as they requested, i was told mine was going out next day
nov 3rd after asking about tracking number i was told package was mailed that day and i would get tracking number the next day
nov 6th asked about tracking number again, was told his wife left it at work and that package would show up next week
nov 15th told trader i was losing faith and a tracking number would really help me feel better, they replied sorry it was really on the way and would return my items if something happened
nov 25th i asked again about package, message has been read and no response has been made at this point.
i do not want to put anyone on a public trial, i just really want my stuff, since part of the trade was going to be sent to someone else as part of another trade.(grdesigner79 if u are reading this, sorry i am still obviously waiting to get an item to send you, but if u have to trade with someone else i understand)
I am part of other forums that have this. Some people are are the good list for simply buying something. (That is why I like the personal feedback sub-thread idea, as you might not trade with a person who has only 3 buy's vs. 3 trades) While it does take trust to put your money out their, u do still have recourse if you use pay-pal. IMO Anyway.
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Has this person been posting recently? It really does sound like they really are not honouring their end of the trade, I say do what you need to do. I would probably try to PM one last time (any chance you have an email address?) and give them a deadline to respond just to be doubly sure you don't regret outing them later. To give them the benefit of the doubt, it's possible that the wife f-ed up, or the wife's office who mailed the package out misplaced it, but regardless, it doesn't change that you've been left hanging.
Sorry this has happened to you.