Older PJ Posters '98 - '00

Uncle Snuffy

bootlegger10 wrote:

It seems like the Klausen 2004 poster with the bird and bullets was the most bootlegged. I haven't really heard much about the older posters.

Huh...this is the first I've ever heard of there being fake PJ posters.

Anyone else have any insight?

- Uncle Snuffy

Uncle Snuffy

bootlegger10 wrote:

PJ 4 Ever wrote:

I just bought a '00 Chicago last week for $125! The lower right hand corner was torn off, but after spending $145 to have it professionally reattached and restored, good as new! Much less $$ than the $1400-$1600 its goes for!

You got yourself quite a deal there. 2000 wasn't the greatest year for posters, but this one is incredible.

I completely agree. '00 Chicago is insanely awesome in my opinion !

- Uncle Snuffy

PJRock75

Those older posters being sold on the bay by partingways06 are all legit because I know him personally and he was a collector before many of u were even PJ fans, he's legit and so are his posters which he's only selling because he just had a son and needs to pay hospital bills.

As far as fakes, back in '03 to '04, there was one seller that was assumed to be selling fakes from that era but nothing was confirmed.

And on a personal note, people make to big Of a deal about pin holes in the white borders...THEY WOULD BE FRAMED OUT!! The only people that care that much about pin holes along the borders are peoPle that plan on reselling them and not keeping them to frame.... My 2 cents.

PJ 4 Ever

Uncle Snuffy wrote:

I just bought a '00 Chicago last week for $125! The lower right hand corner was torn off, but after spending $145 to have it professionally reattached and restored, good as new! Much less $$ than the $1400-$1600 its goes for!

Nicely done! I'd love to see it after its restoration! Sounds like you got a heckuva deal !

- Uncle Snuffy[/quote]

I'll be sure to post pics once I get it back from the framers. I can't wait!!

LeatherMosquitoMan

PJRock75 wrote:

Those older posters being sold on the bay by partingways06 are all legit because I know him personally and he was a collector before many of u were even PJ fans, he's legit and so are his posters which he's only selling because he just had a son and needs to pay hospital bills.

As far as fakes, back in '03 to '04, there was one seller that was assumed to be selling fakes from that era but nothing was confirmed.

And on a personal note, people make to big Of a deal about pin holes in the white borders...THEY WOULD BE FRAMED OUT!! The only people that care that much about pin holes along the borders are peoPle that plan on reselling them and not keeping them to frame.... My 2 cents.

That's actually really good to know...

PJRock75

No problem...the presumed fakes were :

Texas '03
Chicago '03
Showbox '04

That's all I can remember...anyone else???

ST66483

There was a time a few years back where there were circulated fakes of a few older posters beyond the Showbox 04 and the Texas 03. The ones I remember off hand were the Istanbul 96 and the Hartford 98 (and a few others I cannot recall). I remembers seeing side-by-side photos and although the fakes were of a decent quality there were definite differences.

jason_94

PJRock75 wrote:

Those older posters being sold on the bay by partingways06 are all legit because I know him personally and he was a collector before many of u were even PJ fans, he's legit and so are his posters which he's only selling because he just had a son and needs to pay hospital bills.

As far as fakes, back in '03 to '04, there was one seller that was assumed to be selling fakes from that era but nothing was confirmed.

And on a personal note, people make to big Of a deal about pin holes in the white borders...THEY WOULD BE FRAMED OUT!! The only people that care that much about pin holes along the borders are peoPle that plan on reselling them and not keeping them to frame.... My 2 cents.

That is reassuring. It sounds like all of the money from those posters went towards a really good thing!

southerngarden

whoever got that Ames 96 Portugal that popped up a week or two ago....i hate you! :evil:

i think you got a good deal...wish i had clicked "confirm bid" a second faster!

LeatherMosquitoMan

PJRock75 wrote:

Those older posters being sold on the bay by partingways06 are all legit because I know him personally and he was a collector before many of u were even PJ fans, he's legit and so are his posters which he's only selling because he just had a son and needs to pay hospital bills.

As far as fakes, back in '03 to '04, there was one seller that was assumed to be selling fakes from that era but nothing was confirmed.

And on a personal note, people make to big Of a deal about pin holes in the white borders...THEY WOULD BE FRAMED OUT!! The only people that care that much about pin holes along the borders are peoPle that plan on reselling them and not keeping them to frame.... My 2 cents.

I'm glad you said this, because i just won my Holy Grail poster from him. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

Dirty Frankk

I don't know if you guys have seen month ago or so a funniest PJ poster auction ever.

The guy had PJ Portugal/Spain 96 Ames poster that he listed as a mint,
the only problem was that the poster was painted over and he cut the poster and change his shape :shock: ....
other than that it was mint

I wish I had a link to show it

100 Pacer

Dirty Frankk wrote:

I don't know if you guys have seen month ago or so a funniest PJ poster auction ever.

The guy had PJ Portugal/Spain 96 Ames poster that he listed as a mint,
the only problem was that the poster was painted over and he cut the poster and change his shape :shock: ....
other than that it was mint

I wish I had a link to show it

I did see that auction, and actually contacted the seller to confirm he was the one who indeed cut out the image field from the white border and painted over it because he "didn't like the colors." Informed him it was too bad, as an unaltered example of the poster would fetch ~ $500.

On another note, in line with what's been discussed about fakes, I recall a seller by the name of Piotr (spelling?) from Eastern Europe (Poland perhaps?) who was selling fake '96 Istanbul posters on eBay a few years back. When I called him out on it he began restricting which countries his auctions would be displayed for so as not to be noticed. His fake '96 Istanbul was easily identifiable, with the digits "19" in the image field painted brown inside the numbers when in fact those digits should not have any paint inside of them. There was also a fake '98 Raleigh floating around...I remember the tell-tale sign being the yellow color missing from the flower inside the image field.

IMO it's always worth dealing with respected and reputable sellers/traders/collectors and paying top dollar for a poster you're after (unless, of course, you find yourself a good deal you shouldn't/wouldn't walk away from). It's not worth it trying to save a few dollars only to end up with a fake that would take the wind out of your sails every time you admired it. At least that's how I feel about the matter.

djklambake

Just saw a 98 Melbourne poster with the knife-wielding scuba guy on it. One of my faves from that tour. Only $52 right now... Something fishy about it though...

100 Pacer

djklambake wrote:

Just saw a 98 Melbourne poster with the knife-wielding scuba guy on it. One of my faves from that tour. Only $52 right now... Something fishy about it though...

The example you mentioned up on eBay is a fake.

LeatherMosquitoMan

100 Pacer wrote:

djklambake wrote:

Just saw a 98 Melbourne poster with the knife-wielding scuba guy on it. One of my faves from that tour. Only $52 right now... Something fishy about it though...

The example you mentioned up on eBay is a fake.

How can you tell?

I just bought a Brisbane 1998 for $350, that i'm positive is legit, and someone from here, not the seller, vouched for them.

Dr. Delight

The Raleigh 98 poster, with the 3 monkeys on the bike, was bootlegged heavily. I believe you can tell on those by looking at the color of the spokes on the front wheel. The fakes had a bluish color I think.

100 Pacer

LeatherMosquitoMan wrote:

100 Pacer wrote:

djklambake wrote:

Just saw a 98 Melbourne poster with the knife-wielding scuba guy on it. One of my faves from that tour. Only $52 right now... Something fishy about it though...

The example you mentioned up on eBay is a fake.

How can you tell?

I just bought a Brisbane 1998 for $350, that i'm positive is legit, and someone from here, not the seller, vouched for them.

Short answer: visit Expressobeans and search for the '98 Melbourne. Bring up the stored images of the poster and scroll through to the image of 2 examples of the '98 Melbourne poster side by side, one of them real and the other fake and you can compare the subtle differences (color variations being the obvious issue).

PJRock75

The Melbourne poster I can't vouche for because I don't know the seller, but the poster looks legit. I saw the two different Melbourne's on EB but that doesn't mean one is a fake and the other is legit. During the print run process, colors could (and many times do) vary...some brighter, darker, etc. Subtle differences like those aren't tell tale signs of being fakes. Colors being added in or taken out...well, that's another story.

LeatherMosquitoMan

PJRock75 wrote:

The Melbourne poster I can't vouche for because I don't know the seller, but the poster looks legit. I saw the two different Melbourne's on EB but that doesn't mean one is a fake and the other is legit. During the print run process, colors could (and many times do) vary...some brighter, darker, etc. Subtle differences like those aren't tell tale signs of being fakes. Colors being added in or taken out...well, that's another story.

Interesting...

LeatherMosquitoMan

100 Pacer wrote:

Short answer: visit Expressobeans and search for the '98 Melbourne. Bring up the stored images of the poster and scroll through to the image of 2 examples of the '98 Melbourne poster side by side, one of them real and the other fake and you can compare the subtle differences (color variations being the obvious issue).

I did this exact thing earlier, before you mentioned it, and didn't see anything other than it being a possible variant?