Hoarders taking over PJ items
It seems like there are alot of people lately that are just trying to collect stuff to say they have it or buying to resell the items. Seems like people are becoming hoarders instead of enjoying the products. Why does one want every album..only to never listen to them??? The items and music are there to be purchased and enjoyed. Why get a poster to a show you were not at?? What memories does it hold for you. The reason this band started putting out bootlegs is because people were charging $50+ for poor quality bootlegs. Do they have to stop producing the posters so knuckleheads stop buying them all up and flip them on e-bay. Go suck the blood from someother band to make your $$.
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I don't have all albums (yet) but do listen to them all. Everything I have which isn't much is displayed except posters I did not frame yet.Alpine Valley - Jun 26, 1998, Alpine Valley - Oct 08, 2000, Alpine Valley - Jun 21, 2003
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i hear you..at the buffalo show in 2010 i saw a dude with 5 posters. I only get the shows I goto, and I display them. I was so glad to see that poster in the goods section!0
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I don't get the whole "buy albums sealed" thing. I have a friend who collects Star Wars crap, and insists that they remain unopened. Seems dumb to me, but that's not my thing.
I do, however, collect posters to shows I was not at. I started with the mantra that I would only collect ones to the shows I was at. Then I started checking out the other ones and realized there are some really gorgeous prints out there.
So I collect them as art. I do not flip. There are a few I have that I would use as trade material to get other ones I want, but I don't buy them at a show to flip them.
I do not have all posters framed. Many are in my portfolio. That doesn't make them any less valuable to me. I still occasionally look at them. I just don't have the wallspace for hanging every one. Perhaps some day.- 98 Pgh
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I agree with the basic premise, but then it seemed you went off the rail.
I own every Pearl Jam CD along with a number of bootlegs. As a matter of fact, my entire CD collection is up to about 500 CD's right now (I'll admit I have no exact idea, but it's a lot) - and that's after collecting and since discarding over 300 casettes - so I've only been buying CD's for about 20 years. Some of them I haven't listened to in a while. But, so what? I guess I could give them away. But, I can't possibly listen to that many cd's, so why have them all? Well, I assume at 1 time I thought I might enjoy them, so I bought them. And I have rediscovered CDs after years of not listening to them. But, I can guarantee you, I have every CD from my 10 or so favorite artists, of which PJ is probably the newest (ha, ha). Hell, some of my favorites were from before I was born, yet somehow I managed to collect every one of their CD's.
And, who cares what folks do with them?
As for the posters, I'm sure some is because they like the artwork. I agree, I wouldn't get one for a show I wasn't at (I have very few of those even). But, I'll admit, I've seen a few cool ones that I was tempted on. But, again - why do you care?
Folks collect stamps - what's the point of that? Most of them you wouldn't be able to mail a letter with.
I'm just not understanding your conclusion. Yes, folks are hoarders (of all sorts of things). But, so what?Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0 -
EdsonNascimento wrote:But, so what?
He missed out something he wanted it and/or from a show he attended, and he's mad at guys who collect PJ stuff"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
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Hoard them? Is that not the same as collecting? I would have thought so. Multiples of posters is unfair and unopened vinyl is just pointless other than to be trade bait but they've paid for it and it's theirs. Tough but that's the game.0
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I'm mad at myself for buying so many $13 beers, I could've used that $$ to buy the Deluxe Blu-Ray DVD's, but hey, I had a hell of a (great) time at PJ20! All 3 posters still unframed... DAMN YOU BEER!!!Post edited by PRSNT10S onYour words help me heal
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If I ever want to feel better about myself, I'll Netflix the show Hoarders.
Hopefully there isn't mouse poop all over the stuff you guys are hoarding, hoarders!0 -
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Dukes10 wrote:It seems like there are alot of people lately that are just trying to collect stuff to say they have it or buying to resell the items. Seems like people are becoming hoarders instead of enjoying the products. Why does one want every album..only to never listen to them??? The items and music are there to be purchased and enjoyed. Why get a poster to a show you were not at?? What memories does it hold for you. The reason this band started putting out bootlegs is because people were charging $50+ for poor quality bootlegs. Do they have to stop producing the posters so knuckleheads stop buying them all up and flip them on e-bay. Go suck the blood from someother band to make your $$.
I hate flippers as well.
While I don't consider myself a 'hoarder' by any means.. there are items that I simply 'like' having.
I don't know how many times.. if ever I will listen to Yeild or Riot Act on vinyl.. but I do enjoy having them.
As for the posters.... some posters are just too cool!I have the Calgary 2005 poster because it's got a freaking old school hockey goalie on it! But I was never at that particular show.
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BK144862 wrote:I'm mad at myself for buying so many $13 beers, I could've used that $$ to buy the Deluxe Blu-Ray DVD's, but hey, I had a hell of a (great) time at PJ20! All 3 posters still unframed... DAMN YOU BEER!!!
I feel like I'm getting kicked in the groin every time I'm stuck with having to pay $10-$14 a beer at arenas and venues. Ridiculous mark up.
Which is why I give props to the States for their tailgating.Toronto 2000
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why buy a poster to a show you werent at?
are you for real?
Moronic comment.
people like the art. it really is that simple. People like to display them on their walls....like you would a photo of say new york even if you dont live there. Not everyone flips things.0 -
I have a lot of stuff collected over the years. Never really started out as a collector but just bought the singles and albums as they came out then slowly started to become a collection I love, enjoy and am proud of. I only buy things I like and not every single thing they release like backpacks or water bottles that I no interest in, but some people do so each to there own.
As far as posters go, my original rule since buying my first print in 1996 at wembley, was to purchase prints to shows I attend. This is what I have done apart from a select few which me and the wife decided to but because we liked the print and they suited being formed in our house where as some of the prints to shows I've been to aren't nice enough to put up iny opinion even though they have nostalgia.
I for one have never flipped anything. I get it cause I want it, the people who buy stuff just to throw on eBay are certainly annoying, but what can you do?
I play all my CD's and spiny vinyl, but if people want to leave it sealed then that's up to them, doesn't bother me.London 29-10-96, London 29/30-5-00, London 20-4-06, Reading 27-8-06, London 18-6-07, London 11-8-09, London 18-8-09, London 25-6-10, Berlin 30-6-10 / PJ20 3/4-9-11, Manchester 20-6-12, Amsterdam 26/27-6-12, EV-London 30/31-7-12, EV-Orlando 27-11-120 -
There's a big difference between a collector and a hoarder. I wouldn't use those terms interchangeably. Don't think I've seen anyone with PJ memorabilia on an episode of Hoarders yet
Also, not everyone who buys posters for shows they were not at are flipping them. I like buying pretty things. Some of these pretty things happen to be posters of shows I was not at.0 -
A collector knows the value of their items while a hoarder is compelled to buy out of therepeutic measure. Often times collectors buy as investment pieces for the future, not unlike stocks. That memorabilia is driven by the market and with Pearl Jam specifically, their tours.
I once saw an episode of some show on HGTV or what have you where the couple being helped with a remodel were asked to gather things to keep, donate, or put in a garage sale.
One of those items the wife wanted out of the house for the garage sale was a framed Maui '98 poster.0 -
AfghanTwilight wrote:One of those items the wife wanted out of the house for the garage sale was a framed Maui '98 poster.
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LOL - not me. I am decluttering my life right now. Getting rid of everything I can. I don't need "stuff" anymore and it is actually kind of cathartic to let it all go. Packaging it up and sending it off is kind of like weight off my shoudlers. Still have a lot to get rid of."If she don't love me no more, i know her sister will" Jimi Hendrix0
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moemoe6434 wrote:LOL - not me. I am decluttering my life right now. Getting rid of everything I can. I don't need "stuff" anymore and it is actually kind of cathartic to let it all go. Packaging it up and sending it off is kind of like weight off my shoudlers. Still have a lot to get rid of.
I can relate to this.
I have 'things', but have found that I don't need to carry EVERYTHING with me. Not a hoarder, but a collector, and as someone said earlier, there is a big difference.0 -
pdalowsky wrote:why buy a poster to a show you werent at?
are you for real?
Moronic comment.
people like the art. it really is that simple. People like to display them on their walls....like you would a photo of say new york even if you dont live there. Not everyone flips things.
Agree....just because people buy things doesn't automatically make them hoarders or flippers.
I own lots of posters for shows I didn't go to b/c I liked the art, or the date was significant to me, or just b/c I had too much money to waste at that time. Almost all of made it to being framed and on my walls, or I've tried to trade "buyers regret" posters or items with people from here for cost.
Blanket statements rarely work for people since we all are motivated to collect by different things.0
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