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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,420
    Finally. Seems more about the presidential race then actually doing something he feels is right. But I'll take it.
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  • Monster RainMonster Rain Posts: 1,415
    Good news. This has taken too much of our resources--especially in terms of our soldiers' lives and time away from their families for the ones who survived. I'll admit that I was in favor of going there, but I certainly never expected it to take over 8 years--especially once Saddam was caught. I just hope there is a plan in place to ensure that we aren't leaving a crapfest behind for their government to clean up. If we're leaving behind a strong government that can stand on its own, then something positive has come from this beyond removing a cruel and ruthless dicator. If it all goes to hell when we leave, then you have to wonder if it would have been better for everyone if we'd never gone there.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    While I'll be damned...

    Now let's get the fuck out of Afghanistan too.
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Awesome news... where will they be sent next? The war machine isn't going away.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,750
    Bush deserves most, if not all the credit for this.

    If his administration didnt invade Iraq, there would be no troops for Obama to 'get credit for' withdrawing.





    in all seriousness. Great news. Hopefully we have learned from Iraq... but also can put it behind us.
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    WOOT!
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    MayDay10 wrote:
    Bush deserves most, if not all the credit for this.

    If his administration didnt invade Iraq, there would be no troops for Obama to 'get credit for' withdrawing.





    in all seriousness. Great news. Hopefully we have learned from Iraq... but also can put it behind us.

    Unfortunately, the lesson we've learned will probably be short lived.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    it only took him 3 years and over a thousand days to accomplish one of his biggest campaign promises.

    to be honest i did not think it was ever going to happen.

    i'm just waiting for the calls of condemnation for "cutting and running"...
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    blackredyellow wrote:
    While I'll be damned...

    Now let's get the fuck out of Afghanistan too.
    It sounds like we will have to get into Pakistan before leaving Afghanistan ... at least that's what I'm reading into some of Hillary Clinton's recent statements.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    blackredyellow wrote:
    While I'll be damned...

    Now let's get the fuck out of Afghanistan too.
    It sounds like we will have to get into Pakistan before leaving Afghanistan ... at least that's what I'm reading into some of Hillary Clinton's recent statements.
    yes hillary definitely has stepped up the rhetoric the last 2 days. she told pakistan just a bit ago that "our patience has run out."
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Great news....

    good job, Obama...oh wait, am I allowed to think that....? surely I should be upset about something here...

    um...yeah, but it took too long...

    or....yeah, but we're still at war in other parts of the world...

    or...yeah, but he's going to raise taxes on millionaires....

    or...yeah, but this is just a election year ploy....

    or...yeah, great job...

    damn, this is hard...
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Finally. Seems more about the presidential race then actually doing something he feels is right. But I'll take it.


    Took the words right out of my mouth. it's a start.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Good, now replace them with thousands of killer security contractors,

    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-04/us/u ... m?_s=PM:US

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10 ... q-eternal/
  • mookieb10mookieb10 Posts: 930
    This seems like a good idea, as long as it doesnt compromise our welfare in US. We cant play global cop anymore.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Time to update this list...

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    inmytree wrote:
    Time to update this list...

    dont-ever-say-the-president-hasnt-done-anything-f-3065-1319147663-1-1.jpg
    Now balance the budget and you'll have my vote next year. 8-)
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    inmytree wrote:
    Time to update this list...

    dont-ever-say-the-president-hasnt-done-anything-f-3065-1319147663-1-1.jpg
    :lol:
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Awesome news... where will they be sent next? The war machine isn't going away.

    Don't ya know already?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    inmytree wrote:
    or...yeah, but this is just a election year ploy....


    It's this one by the way. ;)

    AS long as it's a military plan and not a political plan, it's a great thing.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    From CNN - Mitt Romney's response:

    Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney:

    "President Obama's astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in Iraq has unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of American men and women. The unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the Iraqi government. The American people deserve to hear the recommendations that were made by our military commanders in Iraq."

    I agree with the last sentence, would love to know. I bet we never know.
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I don't Cincy.. who's the next alleged "threat" to our freedoms? Look out Hugo Chavez...(they have oil too wink wink).
    cincybearcat wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Awesome news... where will they be sent next? The war machine isn't going away.

    Don't ya know already?
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    cincybearcat wrote:
    From CNN - Mitt Romney's response:

    Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney:

    "President Obama's astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in Iraq has unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of American men and women. The unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the Iraqi government. The American people deserve to hear the recommendations that were made by our military commanders in Iraq."

    I agree with the last sentence, would love to know. I bet we never know.

    :sick:
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    cincybearcat wrote:
    From CNN - Mitt Romney's response:

    Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney:

    "President Obama's astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in Iraq has unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of American men and women. The unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the Iraqi government. The American people deserve to hear the recommendations that were made by our military commanders in Iraq."

    I agree with the last sentence, would love to know. I bet we never know.
    obama is "the decider" now..


    or is it "commanderguy"?
    :lol:
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,245
    CH156378 wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    From CNN - Mitt Romney's response:

    Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney:

    "President Obama's astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in Iraq has unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of American men and women. The unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the Iraqi government. The American people deserve to hear the recommendations that were made by our military commanders in Iraq."

    I agree with the last sentence, would love to know. I bet we never know.

    :sick:
    really? Wasnt this "THE PLAN" All along? 2011? Huh, actually did something within a set time frame as promised? What the fuck is going on here?


    The unavoidable question is , is this statement from Romney a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude on the part of his handlers?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    FiveB247x wrote:
    I don't Cincy.. who's the next alleged "threat" to our freedoms? Look out Hugo Chavez...(they have oil too wink wink).
    cincybearcat wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Awesome news... where will they be sent next? The war machine isn't going away.

    Don't ya know already?


    Ummm...Iran? ;)
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Another worthy candidate. Considering how long it will take us to remove ourselves from the Middle East (directly) - Iraq and Afganistan... I'd sooner bet on Venezuela. Easier target and same access to oil.
    cincybearcat wrote:


    Ummm...Iran? ;)
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,193
    cincybearcat wrote:
    From CNN - Mitt Romney's response:

    Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney:

    "President Obama's astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in Iraq has unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of American men and women. The unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the Iraqi government. The American people deserve to hear the recommendations that were made by our military commanders in Iraq."

    I agree with the last sentence, would love to know. I bet we never know.

    We usually find those things out after the military guys retire.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,193
    Jason P wrote:
    blackredyellow wrote:
    While I'll be damned...

    Now let's get the fuck out of Afghanistan too.
    It sounds like we will have to get into Pakistan before leaving Afghanistan ... at least that's what I'm reading into some of Hillary Clinton's recent statements.

    Do we invade countries with nukes? Makes for a good incentive for countries to get rolling on their nuke program.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,245
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    blackredyellow wrote:
    While I'll be damned...

    Now let's get the fuck out of Afghanistan too.
    It sounds like we will have to get into Pakistan before leaving Afghanistan ... at least that's what I'm reading into some of Hillary Clinton's recent statements.

    Do we invade countries with nukes? Makes for a good incentive for countries to get rolling on their nuke program.
    well we DO invade countries with WMD's dont we?



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  • RFTCRFTC Posts: 723
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    it only took him 3 years and over a thousand days to accomplish one of his biggest campaign promises.

    to be honest i did not think it was ever going to happen.

    i'm just waiting for the calls of condemnation for "cutting and running"...

    seriously, mccain, graham, cornyn, amongst other warhawks are shuddering. to a gop grunt did not want to give an ounce of credit to the libyan mission coordinated by our military/admin. mccain finally reconsidered and gave obama credit (thx dude).

    i could give a crap about the timing of this or next years major 'afghan withdrawal' to coincide w/political points. the gop is getting its teeth kicked in right now, pile it on pres...
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