I try to take an objective view of Reagan. I mean, I voted for the guy twice.
On the pro side of the house, Reagan made us feel safe by taking a strong stance on the Soviet Union, Iran, Libya. I can see why Conservatives hold him up as a champion... even to today.
The Cons... well, with the light of hindsight... boy, do the blemishes show up.
We come to find out that the Soviet Union was not the technically advanced Super Power we were told they were. We should have seen the signs... like magnets sticking to the fuselages of Mig-31s and their primary battle rifle being basically unchanged since 1947.
We made some horrible choices in allies under Reagan. Usama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein come to mind. And guess who 'Negotiated With Terrorists'? Reagan. He negotiated with the Ayatollah Khoemeni Iran to sell them weapons in exchange for their part in negotiating terms with extremist hostage takers. He overcharged Iran for the weapons to use the excess funds to arm the terrorists in Nicaragua.
The 'Just Say No' campaign has cost us trillions of dollars and a lot of wasted lives for what? We taught our kids to say, 'No' to pot while stuffing Ritalin and Prozac down heir throats. The War On Drugs has been a fiasco... credit Mr. Reagan for that.
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Of course... none of us saw the Bin Ladens or Drug War from the vantage point we had back then...
but, to still hold up Reagan as some sort of Conservative Saviour?
A Hollywood Actor interested in politics...
Who negotiated with terrorists to fund terrorism...
created Al Qaeda and Bin Laden...
supplied Saddam Hussein with the chemical weapons he ultimately used on his own people...
and started a War on Drugs that we are still paying for.
How do today's Conservatives reconcile the reality of the facts?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
And the fact that he pissed on the U.S constitution, sold arms illegally to Iran, and used the profits to fund death squads in Latin America that killed approx a million people (in the case of the Reagan-backed slaughter of Guatemalan's, an act described by the United Nations as genocide), doesn't stop you regarding him as a hero?
I try to take an objective view of Reagan. I mean, I voted for the guy twice.
On the pro side of the house, Reagan made us feel safe by taking a strong stance on the Soviet Union, Iran, Libya. I can see why Conservatives hold him up as a champion... even to today.
The Cons... well, with the light of hindsight... boy, do the blemishes show up.
We come to find out that the Soviet Union was not the technically advanced Super Power we were told they were. We should have seen the signs... like magnets sticking to the fuselages of Mig-31s and their primary battle rifle being basically unchanged since 1947.
We made some horrible choices in allies under Reagan. Usama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein come to mind. And guess who 'Negotiated With Terrorists'? Reagan. He negotiated with the Ayatollah Khoemeni Iran to sell them weapons in exchange for their part in negotiating terms with extremist hostage takers. He overcharged Iran for the weapons to use the excess funds to arm the terrorists in Nicaragua.
The 'Just Say No' campaign has cost us trillions of dollars and a lot of wasted lives for what? We taught our kids to say, 'No' to pot while stuffing Ritalin and Prozac down heir throats. The War On Drugs has been a fiasco... credit Mr. Reagan for that.
...
Of course... none of us saw the Bin Ladens or Drug War from the vantage point we had back then...
but, to still hold up Reagan as some sort of Conservative Saviour?
A Hollywood Actor interested in politics...
Who negotiated with terrorists to fund terrorism...
created Al Qaeda and Bin Laden...
supplied Saddam Hussein with the chemical weapons he ultimately used on his own people...
and started a War on Drugs that we are still paying for.
How do today's Conservatives reconcile the reality of the facts?
How do today's Conservatives reconcile the reality of the facts?
They don't.
They ignore the facts and instead talk about how he had rosy cheeks and a nice voice, claim that criticism of him is a case of historical revisionism, and then call him a hero.
And the fact that he pissed on the U.S constitution, sold arms illegally to Iran, and used the profits to fund death squads in Latin America that killed approx a million people (in the case of the Reagan-backed slaughter of Guatemalan's, an act described by the United Nations as genocide), doesn't stop you regarding him as a hero?
How do today's Conservatives reconcile the reality of the facts?
They don't.
They ignore the facts and instead talk about how he had rosy cheeks and a nice voice, claim that criticism of him is a case of historical revisionism, and then call him a hero.
Hey, he fucked the country up pretty badly. The only decent president we've had in my lifetime has been Slick Willy, and even that was only for the first six years of his tenure.
I remember being real excited about Reagan's Star Wars program as a kid ... although I thought it meant we would have X-Wing fighters available by now. :(
RIGHT? I can't believe how nobody ever cares about it...ron did shit about aids and i don't care what people say, he has the blood of a lot of people on his hands domestically and abroad. He more than dobuled the national debt
I do not like Reagan or his policies but people forget with time that he represented a re-invigoration of American pride during a bad time in America's psyche. Watergate had just passed, Carter was a lame leader and the pan-arab movement helped capture the energy market as well as some american captives. Albeit, full of shit and not really following his policies and ideas through til the end, he stood for a strong America and represented a semblance of a strong America in a dark period. If you don't recognize the time frame he served in accordance with his policies, it seems misplaced and out of character. As I mentioned, I don't like either, but he did bolster our national psyche for a brief period. Other than that, I find him drastically over-rated by many.
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I do not like Reagan or his policies but people forget with time that he represented a re-invigoration of American pride during a bad time in America's psyche. Watergate had just passed, Carter was a lame leader and the pan-arab movement helped capture the energy market as well as some american captives. Albeit, full of shit and not really following his policies and ideas through til the end, he stood for a strong America and represented a semblance of a strong America in a dark period. If you don't recognize the time frame he served in accordance with his policies, it seems misplaced and out of character. As I mentioned, I don't like either, but he did bolster our national psyche for a brief period. Other than that, I find him drastically over-rated by many.
This is a good point.
On another note (because this thread reminds me of this) is that I have to laugh when friends of mine praise Reagan and I simply ask them "why?" They say: small government (false), he lowered taxes (only benefited the rich and then he raised taxes over ten times), spending (he doubled the national debt), honesty (he negotiated with terrorists and supported slaughter campaigns in Central America).........
I do not like Reagan or his policies but people forget with time that he represented a re-invigoration of American pride during a bad time in America's psyche. Watergate had just passed, Carter was a lame leader and the pan-arab movement helped capture the energy market as well as some american captives. Albeit, full of shit and not really following his policies and ideas through til the end, he stood for a strong America and represented a semblance of a strong America in a dark period. If you don't recognize the time frame he served in accordance with his policies, it seems misplaced and out of character. As I mentioned, I don't like either, but he did bolster our national psyche for a brief period. Other than that, I find him drastically over-rated by many.
This is a good point.
On another note (because this thread reminds me of this) is that I have to laugh when friends of mine praise Reagan and I simply ask them "why?" They say: small government (false), he lowered taxes (only benefited the rich and then he raised taxes over ten times), spending (he doubled the national debt), honesty (he negotiated with terrorists and supported slaughter campaigns in Central America).........
Too funny.
these are things that fox news conveniently leaves out when they lionize this man and tell their viewers how great he was and how this country needs another one of him and we need to go back to his policies...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
What do Conservatives feel about NAFTA?
I hope they realize that NAFTA is Reagan's vision. http://www.heritage.org/Research/Report ... -Agreement
"Long-Standing Support for Free Trade with Mexico. Ronald Reagan first proposed a free trade agreement between the U.S. and Mexico in his 1980 presidential campaign. Since that time, The Heritage Foundation is proud of the role it has played in articulating President Reagan's vision of free trade in Latin America and around the world. Since the mid-1980s, Heritage analysts have been stressing that a free trade agreement with Mexico not only will stimulate economic growth in the U.S., but will make Mexico a more stable and prosperous country. Heritage has published over three dozen studies stressing the benefits of free trade in North America."
thanks to ron paul at the republican debate in vegas, i learned that reagan negotiated with terrorists....trading weapons for hostages with IRAN! why is he so special again?
thanks to ron paul at the republican debate in vegas, i learned that reagan negotiated with terrorists....trading weapons for hostages with IRAN! why is he so special again?
thanks to ron paul at the republican debate in vegas, i learned that reagan negotiated with terrorists....trading weapons for hostages with IRAN! why is he so special again?
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Reagan admitted this in '87 in an address to the American people from the Oval Office. His approval rating skyrocketed. Doesn't make much sense to me: if Obama did the same, his approval rating would plummet.
p.s. Bush's approval skyrocketed after 9/11. Go figure
thanks to Ron Paul at the republican debate in Vegas, i learned that Reagan negotiated with terrorists....trading weapons for hostages with IRAN! why is he so special again?
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Negotiated with terrorists in Iran and armed terrorists in Central America... AND...
Under his administration, created and trainned Islamic terrorists, including Bin Laden and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, developed the tactical use of I.D.Es against far superior military armored forces, provided Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons development programs, dumped the mentally ill onto the streets of American citiies by dismanteling the mental health institutions, created the vision of NAFTA, granted amnesty to illegal immigrants and raised taxes.
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Yet, most Conservatives choose to ignore these facts and continue to hold him up as the Patron Saint of Conservatism.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
thanks to Ron Paul at the republican debate in Vegas, i learned that Reagan negotiated with terrorists....trading weapons for hostages with IRAN! why is he so special again?
:?
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Negotiated with terrorists in Iran and armed terrorists in Central America... AND...
Under his administration, created and trainned Islamic terrorists, including Bin Laden and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, developed the tactical use of I.D.Es against far superior military armored forces, provided Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons development programs, dumped the mentally ill onto the streets of American citiies by dismanteling the mental health institutions, created the vision of NAFTA, granted amnesty to illegal immigrants and raised taxes.
...
Yet, most Conservatives choose to ignore these facts and continue to hold him up as the Patron Saint of Conservatism.
What good are facts when "It's Morning in America"
thanks to Ron Paul at the republican debate in Vegas, i learned that Reagan negotiated with terrorists....trading weapons for hostages with IRAN! why is he so special again?
:?
...
Negotiated with terrorists in Iran and armed terrorists in Central America... AND...
Under his administration, created and trainned Islamic terrorists, including Bin Laden and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, developed the tactical use of I.D.Es against far superior military armored forces, provided Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons development programs, dumped the mentally ill onto the streets of American citiies by dismanteling the mental health institutions, created the vision of NAFTA, granted amnesty to illegal immigrants and raised taxes.
...
Yet, most Conservatives choose to ignore these facts and continue to hold him up as the Patron Saint of Conservatism.
I would like to know where all those mentally ill people are now. Oh, yes - the White House. They finally found a home.
And it's been a long standing tradition in world politics that your friend today is your enemy tomorrow. It's easy to look back and say - look! He dealt with Bin Laden. I guess he should have seen 9/11 coming 20 years earlier. That's revisionist.
And, yes, sometimes you have to deal with bad people to move the ball along. You are being naive if you think Obama's not doing the same thing. We're about to see it in Libya. But, you know what - he did the right thing for the moment. There will be negative outcomes to this. But, it doesn't outweight the positive outcome of a 42 year dictator being gone.
And all this is why Obama is learning how critical it is to protect and partner with Israel. Aside from Britain, they are the only true military allies we have that are a constant. Especially, in that area of the world.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
And all this is why Obama is learning how critical it is to protect and partner with Israel. Aside from Britain, they are the only true military allies we have that are a constant. Especially, in that area of the world.
the only reason israel is "a constant" is because they have their hand out for our $4 billion a year in military aid...take away that funding and we get told where we can stick it...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
And all this is why Obama is learning how critical it is to protect and partner with Israel. Aside from Britain, they are the only true military allies we have that are a constant. Especially, in that area of the world.
the only reason israel is "a constant" is because they have their hand out for our $4 billion a year in military aid...take away that funding and we get told where we can stick it...
Even if that was true - we give lots of money to countries that shit on us. So, even following that line of thinking - at least we're getting our money's worth here.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
And all this is why Obama is learning how critical it is to protect and partner with Israel. Aside from Britain, they are the only true military allies we have that are a constant. Especially, in that area of the world.
the only reason israel is "a constant" is because they have their hand out for our $4 billion a year in military aid...take away that funding and we get told where we can stick it...
Even if that was true - we give lots of money to countries that shit on us. So, even following that line of thinking - at least we're getting our money's worth here.
i would rather walk away and keep my money and use it here in the homeland...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
i would rather walk away and keep my money and use it here in the homeland...
And that is a particularly foolish and naive stance that many a President has agreed to upon entering office (present one included) that has shaded as they have learned the realities of the world.
If there is a tiger that is willing to fight the wolf 1,000 miles from your house and is willing to stay loyal as long as you stay loyal, would you let it? Or would you let the wolf get to your doorstep?
And that's a terrible analogy because there's a lot more to what Israel provides the US in the Middle East than this.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
i would rather walk away and keep my money and use it here in the homeland...
And that is a particularly foolish and naive stance that many a President has agreed to upon entering office (present one included) that has shaded as they have learned the realities of the world.
If there is a tiger that is willing to fight the wolf 1,000 miles from your house and is willing to stay loyal as long as you stay loyal, would you let it? Or would you let the wolf get to your doorstep?
And that's a terrible analogy because there's a lot more to what Israel provides the US in the Middle East than this.
But do you really think we are abandoning our role in the Middle East? Look at how Obama has changed the game. It's now about drones that can be operated from bases in Africa. It is a different approach, but our role will not change. We will always be in the Middle East. I know people hate to admit it, but what we see out of DC is only the tip of the iceberg--we know nothing about what is underwater. In other words, we don't know shit; but, we can guess..... ....or we can make our best assumptions with the information (not that we have) that we are "given."
What do we really know?
p.s. Wolves travel in packs. So, they would be able to beat down the tiger on the way to your doorstep...
I liked it when he acknowledged an alien threat from space to the U.N
not a threat from another nation from space, an ALIEN threat from outer space.
disclosure?
Oh, yeah, and that him and Nancy followed astrology to plan their days....
And it's been a long standing tradition in world politics that your friend today is your enemy tomorrow. It's easy to look back and say - look! He dealt with Bin Laden. I guess he should have seen 9/11 coming 20 years earlier. That's revisionist.
And, yes, sometimes you have to deal with bad people to move the ball along. You are being naive if you think Obama's not doing the same thing. We're about to see it in Libya. But, you know what - he did the right thing for the moment. There will be negative outcomes to this. But, it doesn't outweight the positive outcome of a 42 year dictator being gone.
And all this is why Obama is learning how critical it is to protect and partner with Israel. Aside from Britain, they are the only true military allies we have that are a constant. Especially, in that area of the world.
...
Not revisionist. No one is 'revising' history. When people play the revisionist card... it is just a nice way of saying, 'Making excuses for...'.
If you read through this thread... i noted the fact that we have to place these decisions in the context of the times that existed. I just want to get an understanding on WHY conservatives refuse to acknowledge some of the Reagan decisions that have lead to current conditions... that they (conservatives) disapprove of?
Instead, it is the same old partisan bullshit rhetoric and glancing over or overt lying that comes into play.
Maybe if we learn from our mistakes... namely, that if the enemy of my enemy hates my guts... he is NOT my friend... based on past experiences and outcomes, only a complete idiot would believe otherwise. Ask our friend, Afghanistan... who they will side with if the U.S. decides to take on Pakistan.
Gold Star to those who answered, 'Certainly, not us.'.
And yes... the decisions made by President Obama today will affect future conditions... to which a guy like me will hold him a partly responsible for and not give him a free ride out of accountability.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
If there is a tiger that is willing to fight the wolf 1,000 miles from your house and is willing to stay loyal as long as you stay loyal, would you let it? Or would you let the wolf get to your doorstep?
And just what 'wolf' are you referring to here? The Palestinians? Are they a wolf trying to get to America's doorstep? How do you come to that conclusion? Or are you referring to Hezbollah and the Lebanese? Again, how do they pose a threat to America? Or maybe you're referring simply to all Arabs?
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On the pro side of the house, Reagan made us feel safe by taking a strong stance on the Soviet Union, Iran, Libya. I can see why Conservatives hold him up as a champion... even to today.
The Cons... well, with the light of hindsight... boy, do the blemishes show up.
We come to find out that the Soviet Union was not the technically advanced Super Power we were told they were. We should have seen the signs... like magnets sticking to the fuselages of Mig-31s and their primary battle rifle being basically unchanged since 1947.
We made some horrible choices in allies under Reagan. Usama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein come to mind. And guess who 'Negotiated With Terrorists'? Reagan. He negotiated with the Ayatollah Khoemeni Iran to sell them weapons in exchange for their part in negotiating terms with extremist hostage takers. He overcharged Iran for the weapons to use the excess funds to arm the terrorists in Nicaragua.
The 'Just Say No' campaign has cost us trillions of dollars and a lot of wasted lives for what? We taught our kids to say, 'No' to pot while stuffing Ritalin and Prozac down heir throats. The War On Drugs has been a fiasco... credit Mr. Reagan for that.
...
Of course... none of us saw the Bin Ladens or Drug War from the vantage point we had back then...
but, to still hold up Reagan as some sort of Conservative Saviour?
A Hollywood Actor interested in politics...
Who negotiated with terrorists to fund terrorism...
created Al Qaeda and Bin Laden...
supplied Saddam Hussein with the chemical weapons he ultimately used on his own people...
and started a War on Drugs that we are still paying for.
How do today's Conservatives reconcile the reality of the facts?
Hail, Hail!!!
And the fact that he pissed on the U.S constitution, sold arms illegally to Iran, and used the profits to fund death squads in Latin America that killed approx a million people (in the case of the Reagan-backed slaughter of Guatemalan's, an act described by the United Nations as genocide), doesn't stop you regarding him as a hero?
They don't.
They ignore the facts and instead talk about how he had rosy cheeks and a nice voice, claim that criticism of him is a case of historical revisionism, and then call him a hero.
sad isn't it?
Hey, he fucked the country up pretty badly. The only decent president we've had in my lifetime has been Slick Willy, and even that was only for the first six years of his tenure.
Lets see...who increased the U.S. debt the most since President Gerald Ford? You got it.... Mr. Ronald Reagan.
Was it Republican or Democrat presidents that increased the U.S. debt more since 1974.....? REPUBLICANS!
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:think: this is true. But, it has continued to go up under Obama.
RIGHT? I can't believe how nobody ever cares about it...ron did shit about aids and i don't care what people say, he has the blood of a lot of people on his hands domestically and abroad. He more than dobuled the national debt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
This is a good point.
On another note (because this thread reminds me of this) is that I have to laugh when friends of mine praise Reagan and I simply ask them "why?" They say: small government (false), he lowered taxes (only benefited the rich and then he raised taxes over ten times), spending (he doubled the national debt), honesty (he negotiated with terrorists and supported slaughter campaigns in Central America).........
Too funny.
these are things that fox news conveniently leaves out when they lionize this man and tell their viewers how great he was and how this country needs another one of him and we need to go back to his policies...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I hope they realize that NAFTA is Reagan's vision.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Report ... -Agreement
"Long-Standing Support for Free Trade with Mexico. Ronald Reagan first proposed a free trade agreement between the U.S. and Mexico in his 1980 presidential campaign. Since that time, The Heritage Foundation is proud of the role it has played in articulating President Reagan's vision of free trade in Latin America and around the world. Since the mid-1980s, Heritage analysts have been stressing that a free trade agreement with Mexico not only will stimulate economic growth in the U.S., but will make Mexico a more stable and prosperous country. Heritage has published over three dozen studies stressing the benefits of free trade in North America."
http://www.fina-nafi.org/eng/integ/chro ... menu=integ
Hail, Hail!!!
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And Oliver North gets a tv show.
Reagan admitted this in '87 in an address to the American people from the Oval Office. His approval rating skyrocketed. Doesn't make much sense to me: if Obama did the same, his approval rating would plummet.
p.s. Bush's approval skyrocketed after 9/11. Go figure
Negotiated with terrorists in Iran and armed terrorists in Central America... AND...
Under his administration, created and trainned Islamic terrorists, including Bin Laden and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, developed the tactical use of I.D.Es against far superior military armored forces, provided Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons development programs, dumped the mentally ill onto the streets of American citiies by dismanteling the mental health institutions, created the vision of NAFTA, granted amnesty to illegal immigrants and raised taxes.
...
Yet, most Conservatives choose to ignore these facts and continue to hold him up as the Patron Saint of Conservatism.
Hail, Hail!!!
What good are facts when "It's Morning in America"
I would like to know where all those mentally ill people are now. Oh, yes - the White House. They finally found a home.
And it's been a long standing tradition in world politics that your friend today is your enemy tomorrow. It's easy to look back and say - look! He dealt with Bin Laden. I guess he should have seen 9/11 coming 20 years earlier. That's revisionist.
And, yes, sometimes you have to deal with bad people to move the ball along. You are being naive if you think Obama's not doing the same thing. We're about to see it in Libya. But, you know what - he did the right thing for the moment. There will be negative outcomes to this. But, it doesn't outweight the positive outcome of a 42 year dictator being gone.
And all this is why Obama is learning how critical it is to protect and partner with Israel. Aside from Britain, they are the only true military allies we have that are a constant. Especially, in that area of the world.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Even if that was true - we give lots of money to countries that shit on us. So, even following that line of thinking - at least we're getting our money's worth here.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
And that is a particularly foolish and naive stance that many a President has agreed to upon entering office (present one included) that has shaded as they have learned the realities of the world.
If there is a tiger that is willing to fight the wolf 1,000 miles from your house and is willing to stay loyal as long as you stay loyal, would you let it? Or would you let the wolf get to your doorstep?
And that's a terrible analogy because there's a lot more to what Israel provides the US in the Middle East than this.
But do you really think we are abandoning our role in the Middle East? Look at how Obama has changed the game. It's now about drones that can be operated from bases in Africa. It is a different approach, but our role will not change. We will always be in the Middle East. I know people hate to admit it, but what we see out of DC is only the tip of the iceberg--we know nothing about what is underwater. In other words, we don't know shit; but, we can guess.....
What do we really know?
p.s. Wolves travel in packs. So, they would be able to beat down the tiger on the way to your doorstep...
not a threat from another nation from space, an ALIEN threat from outer space.
disclosure?
Oh, yeah, and that him and Nancy followed astrology to plan their days....
Not revisionist. No one is 'revising' history. When people play the revisionist card... it is just a nice way of saying, 'Making excuses for...'.
If you read through this thread... i noted the fact that we have to place these decisions in the context of the times that existed. I just want to get an understanding on WHY conservatives refuse to acknowledge some of the Reagan decisions that have lead to current conditions... that they (conservatives) disapprove of?
Instead, it is the same old partisan bullshit rhetoric and glancing over or overt lying that comes into play.
Maybe if we learn from our mistakes... namely, that if the enemy of my enemy hates my guts... he is NOT my friend... based on past experiences and outcomes, only a complete idiot would believe otherwise. Ask our friend, Afghanistan... who they will side with if the U.S. decides to take on Pakistan.
Gold Star to those who answered, 'Certainly, not us.'.
And yes... the decisions made by President Obama today will affect future conditions... to which a guy like me will hold him a partly responsible for and not give him a free ride out of accountability.
Hail, Hail!!!
And just what 'wolf' are you referring to here? The Palestinians? Are they a wolf trying to get to America's doorstep? How do you come to that conclusion? Or are you referring to Hezbollah and the Lebanese? Again, how do they pose a threat to America? Or maybe you're referring simply to all Arabs?
Such as?