Ronald Reagan- Why was he so special??

EdsonNascimento

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

reagan was special because he was the last old man to hold the presidency, and i think he will be the last old man to hold the presidency. i think obama, bush, and clinton won in part because of their relatively young age, and the younger parts of the electorate were able to connect with them because they were close to the same age as an 18 year old's parents. i think someone running for president should convey an image of youthful vigor and healthy/active lifestyle. a decrepit old man projects none of that.

MTV absolutely right. I think we will see it swing the other way at some point. Everything goes in cycles. But your analysis is spot on except your last part about it should.

Teedie, JFK, we've gone through this before, just not to this extent. MTV

gimmesometruth27

EdsonNascimento wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

reagan was special because he was the last old man to hold the presidency, and i think he will be the last old man to hold the presidency. i think obama, bush, and clinton won in part because of their relatively young age, and the younger parts of the electorate were able to connect with them because they were close to the same age as an 18 year old's parents. i think someone running for president should convey an image of youthful vigor and healthy/active lifestyle. a decrepit old man projects none of that.

MTV absolutely right. I think we will see it swing the other way at some point. Everything goes in cycles. But your analysis is spot on except your last part about it should.

Teedie, JFK, we've gone through this before, just not to this extent. MTV

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EdsonNascimento

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

reagan was special because he was the last old man to hold the presidency, and i think he will be the last old man to hold the presidency. i think obama, bush, and clinton won in part because of their relatively young age, and the younger parts of the electorate were able to connect with them because they were close to the same age as an 18 year old's parents. i think someone running for president should convey an image of youthful vigor and healthy/active lifestyle. a decrepit old man projects none of that.

MTV absolutely right. I think we will see it swing the other way at some point. Everything goes in cycles. But your analysis is spot on except your last part about it should.

Teedie, JFK, we've gone through this before, just not to this extent. MTV

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Not sure what your ? Is about. We have had more younger Presidents in a row than in the past. That will cycle through. Is there something else you didn't understand? Or are you amazaed we areed?

gimmesometruth27

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Not sure what your ? Is about. We have had more younger Presidents in a row than in the past. That will cycle through. Is there something else you didn't understand? Or are you amazaed we areed?

what is teedie? and why did you say mtv twice? mtv helped clinton i know, but i have not watched mtv since they stopped actually caring about music so i don't know how effective mtv was for either of w's terms and obama's win.

EdsonNascimento

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Not sure what your ? Is about. We have had more younger Presidents in a row than in the past. That will cycle through. Is there something else you didn't understand? Or are you amazaed we areed?

what is teedie? and why did you say mtv twice? mtv helped clinton i know, but i have not watched mtv since they stopped actually caring about music so i don't know how effective mtv was for either of w's terms and obama's win.

Teddy Roosevelt sorry thought that's common knowledge MTV twice just for emphasis of point.

Byrnzie

EdsonNascimento wrote:

We should stop looking for culprits and denigrating one of the truly great adminstrations of our time. Yes, he made mistakes. It's tough to be the President and not. But, I'm sorry - this liberal backlash against the 80's is sickening.

I think it's sickening how anyone can describe as 'great' an administration that directly supported and defended death squads in Latin America, who Reagan knew were massacring hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

In 1999 the United Nations determined that the wholesale slaughter of Guatemalans, directly supported by Reagan and the C.I.A, constituted "genocide.

Byrnzie

I wonder why the Nazis at the Nuremberg Trials didn't just say in their defense that they'd 'made some mistakes'?

Surely if they had done they would have all been let off with a little slap on the wrist?

gimmesometruth27

Byrnzie wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

We should stop looking for culprits and denigrating one of the truly great adminstrations of our time. Yes, he made mistakes. It's tough to be the President and not. But, I'm sorry - this liberal backlash against the 80's is sickening.

I think it's sickening how anyone can describe as 'great' an administration that directly supported and defended death squads in Latin America, who Reagan knew were massacring hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

In 1999 the United Nations determined that the wholesale slaughter of Guatemalans, directly supported by Reagan and the C.I.A, constituted "genocide.

yes the reagan administration is only remembered as great by people who were too young to know the difference back then.

whygohome

EdsonNascimento wrote:

F Me In The Brain wrote:

I personally believe in responsibility being on the individual as well.
With my income and no debt I could have got a fat loan that put me in a tight spot (like many co-workers did) but I am not foolish enough to do that. I take responsibility for my actions - can only blame the govt so much - some of the blame needs to go on the people who took out these loans.
Just because you can do something doesnt make it a good idea.
We seem to have lost touch with that as a country.

And to link this to another thread - those are the people in the park. They should be embarassed rather than being emboldened.

I'm not embarrassed. I think you should be embarrassed for being such a smug prick.

P.S. I came on the forum today to find a few pics of PJ20 and I thought I would take a look at the train. Bad idea. Same old bull shit form a handful of assholes. Now I know why BrianLux said he is leaving; now you know why I am leaving.
I will likely get banned or reprimanded for my "smug prick" comment. So be it. This could be my last post for all I care; I haven't been posting much as of late anyway because the environment is rather hostile and silly.

Peace and love..........

chadwick

reagan showed off his balls all the time. i understand they were not as impressive as he had thought they were.

rollings

Oh my God, people, Santa Clause died.

Chip McFlennigan

He's almost as shitty a president as Bush was and Obama is.

chadwick

johnny america wrote:

He's almost as shitty a president as Bush was and Obama is.

i'd guess that Obama is better than the two of them put together, yes/no?

MookiesLaw

Conservatives love to love what he was supposed to be, but he wasnt a Great President. That being said, if you look at the polls from the time, Reagan was much more popular than his policies. Not a whole lot different from Obama today.

Chip McFlennigan

chadwick wrote:

johnny america wrote:

He's almost as shitty a president as Bush was and Obama is.

i'd guess that Obama is better than the two of them put together, yes/no?

Except that he's basically a more popular, more well-spoken Bush.

Pretty sure Obama's been at the helm of the ship that's run our national debt up to record highs. Dunno how anybody can support that guy. Or Bush. Or Reagan. Or any of these nitwit conservative douches running against our fearless leader next year.

This country is fucked. I know leaning left is the cool, en vogue thing to do around the PJ boards, but, I don't trust the left any more or less than I do the right. They're all buddies behind the scenes; they're all rich puppets of their interest groups and corporate hot shots, etc.

Chip McFlennigan

MookiesLaw wrote:

Conservatives love to love what he was supposed to be, but he wasnt a Great President. That being said, if you look at the polls from the time, Reagan was much more popular than his policies. Not a whole lot different from Obama today.

Dude, Obama would OWN Ronnie the Drug Kingpin & Supreme Pimp of the 1980's one-on-one on the court. Dude's way more qualified and he's doing a much better job, because, I mean, remember, he promised us change!

chadwick

johnny america wrote:

Except that he's basically a more popular, more well-spoken Bush.

Pretty sure Obama's been at the helm of the ship that's run our national debt up to record highs. Dunno how anybody can support that guy. Or Bush. Or Reagan. Or any of these nitwit conservative douches running against our fearless leader next year.

This country is fucked. I know leaning left is the cool, en vogue thing to do around the PJ boards, but, I don't trust the left any more or less than I do the right. They're all buddies behind the scenes; they're all rich puppets of their interest groups and corporate hot shots, etc.

did Obama ruin this country? no he did not. it was well fucked when he inherited this pile of trash. trusting any of the powers that be today is what foolish people do. so good for you, JA, for knowing you will and are getting screwed over, as well as all the rest of us are too.

chadwick

reagan was the first president that i noticed was the president and what it meant. i believe i was in 2nd grade when ron was shot. this being the first time i knew we all had a leader or something.

the president.

i also knew i was a boy with a thingy and i was attracted to girls, and they attracted to me. little mr. grew and grew. it was a great experience. and there were boobies on my teacher :shock:

moral of the story, ronald sucked.

he reminds me of big arnold out in california. a nitwit who landed the job due to being voted in by a shit ton of goofy bastards whose eyes been glued to the god damn television far to long.

something like that...

Chip McFlennigan

chadwick wrote:

johnny america wrote:

Except that he's basically a more popular, more well-spoken Bush.

Pretty sure Obama's been at the helm of the ship that's run our national debt up to record highs. Dunno how anybody can support that guy. Or Bush. Or Reagan. Or any of these nitwit conservative douches running against our fearless leader next year.

This country is fucked. I know leaning left is the cool, en vogue thing to do around the PJ boards, but, I don't trust the left any more or less than I do the right. They're all buddies behind the scenes; they're all rich puppets of their interest groups and corporate hot shots, etc.

did Obama ruin this country? no he did not. it was well fucked when he inherited this pile of trash. trusting any of the powers that be today is what foolish people do. so good for you, JA, for knowing you will and are getting screwed over, as well as all the rest of us are too.

Yeah, he inherited a piece of trash, and did nothing to fix it. Clinton's initiatives did wonders with the economy after Reagan and Daddy Bush completely fucked it up. Then, after doing so well, Clinton buckled like a bitch at the end and set the precedence in motion that would eventually destroy the housing market under the "compassionate conservative" cowboy.

They're all to blame. Obama had the senate and house all painted blue for a little while, and did jack poop to improve our standard of living. He's just as fucking inept as the rest of 'em, my brother.

pandora

charisma, rosey cheeks, humble attitude, great actor, cool voice, hero figure

my father adored him so I did too ... first President for me
and last President for both of us