What if America truly were a Christian nation?

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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    MotoDC wrote:
    Hmm, yes and no. That's an interesting take -- and mayhaps I need to reread the article to be sure -- but I didn't take away anything negative about being "Christlike", such that the author of the article might actually be pleased if the US took on his/her view of what being Christlike meant. In other words, do you really think the article is an argument against theocracy in general? I really think it boils down to the author trying to make TEA partiers look silly.

    For the record, most Christians I know (and I know a LOT) want a state-mandated religion (Christian or otherwise). Their notion of a "Christian nation" is in wanting some Federal decisions to be rooted in the teachings of Christ. It's a fine line, I realize, but I thought the distinction should be made, at least to stay in keeping with the article in the OP.
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    Definately a dig to the 'Creationists' and the sort.
    There is nothing wrong with being 'Christ-like' in nature. That is what the article states... that if people acted more Christ-like... we could be considered a Christian Nation. The reality being, we don't act Christ-like... therefore, we are not a Christian-Nation and no matter how many Ten Commandment we put up... or teach creation instead of evolution... or are lead in daily prayer.
    Also, Christian legislation means religion dictates law... how has that worked out in the past? How does that play out in the present? Not so well, right? It would definately suck to be Jewish in a Christian Theocracy... can't even imagine what it would be like to be a Muslim... or worse, Gay.
    America is Secular... which allows ALL religions to be personal choice, rather than thrust upon us by mandate.
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  • Grandma
    Grandma Posts: 259
    Bill Mahrer this week traces a hypothetical campaign by Jesus for the GOP nomination. Lasts 7 days....
  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    edited October 2011
    not happening.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    STAYSEA wrote:
    Um why Did those Pilgrams want the land for? They Came here to be free? :?
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    Free from the religious persecution of the Church of England. They were Seperatists and did not believe in adhering to the constraints of a centralized church.
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  • Cosmo wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    that isn't the same as being against generosity.
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    Generosity... is that similar to Charity? Or is charity restricted to only people you like?

    Like it or not, there are many people out there who outright abuse the welfare system.

    There are people that use it as a hand up, and people who use it as a hand out. I'm for the former, and against the latter.
    I knew it all along, see?
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Cosmo wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    that isn't the same as being against generosity.
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    Generosity... is that similar to Charity? Or is charity restricted to only people you like?

    Like it or not, there are many people out there who outright abuse the welfare system.

    There are people that use it as a hand up, and people who use it as a hand out. I'm for the former, and against the latter.


    I agree
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Cosmo wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    that isn't the same as being against generosity.
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    Generosity... is that similar to Charity? Or is charity restricted to only people you like?

    Like it or not, there are many people out there who outright abuse the welfare system.

    There are people that use it as a hand up, and people who use it as a hand out. I'm for the former, and against the latter.
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    Everyone wants the criminals who abuse the system... out of the system. I just think that throwing out the entire system because of corruption is not the answer. I never see anyone saying we need to get rid of the police department when some of their officers are caught breaking the law. Most of the people getting assistance really need assistance.
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    Back to the point... Generosity and Charity. Synonyms?
    If America was, indeed, a 'Christian Nation' that followed the words of Jesus... we wouldn't need a Welfare system because our generosity and charity towards the poor would take care of them, just as Jesus tended to the poor in His time. There wouldn't be any cheats... if we were all part of a 'Christian Nation'.
    Problem is... we do not tend to the poor. We scorn them... complain about them... want them out of our system. Not like Jesus... therefore, NOT a Christian Nation.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,076
    i don't think that america could ever be a true christian nation. too many people would complain that it would be too expensive..
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    i don't think that america could ever be a true christian nation. too many people would complain that it would be too expensive..
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    America will never a 'Christian Nation'... being, acting more Christ-like in their everyday life... because we focus on money/wealth and have a 'What is in it for me' attitude towards life. Neither of which, are found in any of the words or teachings of Christ.
    The Christian Church (in it's varying array of factions and sects) may dominate American religion... it does not mean we are Christian. Because there is a difference between following the Christian church and following Jesus.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!