OCCUPY WALL STREET - Spreading

gimmesometruth27

cincybearcat wrote:

But thanks for being the thread police. Let me know ahead of time what is and isn't an allowable post, mkay?

:roll:

polaris_x

cincybearcat wrote:

I just got back online and started from the last page working back. But thanks for being the thread police. Let me know ahead of time what is and isn't an allowable post, mkay?

you can post whatever you want - i'm not policing anything ... i think people who don't support OWS are looking for reasons to discredit the movement and so nitpicking at posts like gimme's is a great example ...

gimmesometruth27

cincybearcat wrote:

This is truly one of the stupidest points to make. People were allowed to pitch tents for how long for OWS? How many days is someone pitching a tent in front of WalMart? Also, the parks where people were pitching their tents for OWS are public property. The other is private property. Just a really poor analogy that shows people are more interested in sensationalism then reality.

so you are saying there is no merit to my position that people are allowed to camp out for capitalism and if they are going to spend money but when they camp out to make their voices heard they get shut down.

good to know what you stand for...

usamamasan1

those camping out at say, Walmart, were camping out on Walmarts property (leased probably but theirs to use) and are invited to do so. Those camping out for the occupy movements are not on their own property, they did not pay for it and are not welcome.

horrible comparison.

cincybearcat knows whats what on this one...

gimmesometruth27

usamamasan1 wrote:

those camping out at say, Walmart, were camping out on Walmarts property (leased probably but theirs to use) and are invited to do so. Those camping out for the occupy movements are not on their own property, they did not pay for it and are not welcome.

horrible comparison.

cincybearcat knows whats what on this one...

most of the ows people paid taxes. it is public property and they paid for it.

but keep trying to discredit my point that in america it is ok to camp out for capitalism and give money to corporate retailers but illegal to camp out and exercise your first amendment rights to free speech and freedom to assemble...

usamamasan1

I doubt many/any of them paid any taxes... even if they did, your point makes it sound like someone who gets pulled over by a cop and says "hey bud, I pay your salary"

"We want to make sure that everybody knows the park is closed and there are services available, that there are alternative ways to protest," Villaraigosa said in an interview with MSNBC. "By the way, we will be opening up the steps of City Hall for protests, they just can't camp out."

mikepegg44

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

those camping out at say, Walmart, were camping out on Walmarts property (leased probably but theirs to use) and are invited to do so. Those camping out for the occupy movements are not on their own property, they did not pay for it and are not welcome.

horrible comparison.

cincybearcat knows whats what on this one...

most of the ows people paid taxes. it is public property and they paid for it.

but keep trying to discredit my point that in america it is ok to camp out for capitalism and give money to corporate retailers but illegal to camp out and exercise your first amendment rights to free speech and freedom to assemble...

it is okay to camp out. they did it for months. Even though most places it is illegal to camp out overnight in city parks. they do close. part of it is for safety. We have the right to peaceably assemble, and there are procedures in place that ensure that right. If you don't like them, and think that the permit process is stupid and that we should be able to assemble when we want and where we want on public property I suggest you begin to support a smaller government with local candidates that do not support odd city ordinances(if they even exist anymore).

Camping at a retailer on their property is up to them. If they would like to allow it fine, if not that is fine too. Up to them on their property. the retailers downtown Minneapolis have to get permits from the city in order for people to camp out in our skyways. Pretty standard stuff.

The best way for the OWS to be effective is participate in democracy. Actually vote for change...where they protest and how they are allowed to doesn't matter in the end...all that matters is that they ALL stay engaged and stay active and do not get discouraged. I believe they can do some good, and probably already have...

cincybearcat

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

This is truly one of the stupidest points to make. People were allowed to pitch tents for how long for OWS? How many days is someone pitching a tent in front of WalMart? Also, the parks where people were pitching their tents for OWS are public property. The other is private property. Just a really poor analogy that shows people are more interested in sensationalism then reality.

so you are saying there is no merit to my position that people are allowed to camp out for capitalism and if they are going to spend money but when they camp out to make their voices heard they get shut down.

good to know what you stand for...

Yep I'm saying there is no merit because people were allowed to camp out on PUBLIC property for quite some time.

And what is allowed on PRIVATE PROPERTY is up to the owner.

So, what do I stand for?

cincybearcat

polaris_x wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

I just got back online and started from the last page working back. But thanks for being the thread police. Let me know ahead of time what is and isn't an allowable post, mkay?

you can post whatever you want - i'm not policing anything ... i think people who don't support OWS are looking for reasons to discredit the movement and so nitpicking at posts like gimme's is a great example ...

I wasn't discrediting the movement, just the dumb ass analogy that shouldn't have ever been made since it is so utterly ridiculous and not based in any realm of reality.

I think that some of the people protesting are doing everyone a service. And some others are doing those people a great disservice.

gimmesometruth27

dumb ass analogy?

it is a very relevent analogy considering that the protests have been put down, in many cases violently and for no good reason, while it is ok to camp out for a few days if you are going to buy a damn 52" tv...

it is like lennon said "if people demand peace instead of another television set, then there will be oeace." the same can be said for change.

do you know that cities are spending more money on clearing out ows than it is on doing anything at all to help their homeless?

with posts like yours i think you are just baiting people.

cincybearcat wrote:

I wasn't discrediting the movement, just the dumb ass analogy that shouldn't have ever been made since it is so utterly ridiculous and not based in any realm of reality.

I think that some of the people protesting are doing everyone a service. And some others are doing those people a great disservice.

usamamasan1

anyone that has the time to camp out to buy a tv shouldn't be buying one in the first place. If you have time on your hands like that you definately don't have a job.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

with posts like yours i think you are just baiting people.

this is what is always posted when people don't post what AMT masses like to hear, the liberal agenda. typical.

brianlux

cincybearcat wrote:

I think that some of the people protesting are doing everyone a service. And some others are doing those people a great disservice.

Maybe we should focus more of our attention and energy on the protesting that is doing us a service. Any movement will have people who screw it up from within and detractors from without. There's a lot of good that can come out of OWS.

Too much attention has been focused on the various efforts to discredit OWS. How many times have we heard, "they have no objectives" when that is false? OR, the protestors are mostly "hippies and freeloaders causing trouble". Also false. Any good movement can be tweaked to make it look bad.

gimmesometruth27

usamamasan1 wrote:

anyone that has the time to camp out to buy a tv shouldn't be buying one in the first place. If you have time on your hands like that you definately don't have a job.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

with posts like yours i think you are just baiting people.

this is what is always posted when people don't post what AMT masses like to hear, the liberal agenda. typical.

BinauralJam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXlMRYcPl3c

pandora

heard the DC crowd is coming to town ....

naughty or nice?

usamamasan1

Los Angeles OWS shut down. Unlawful assembly was declared, paving the way for officers to begin arresting those who didn't leave. About 200 or so who broke the law BUSTED.

And, when the camp was cleared, of course it was a mess. Littered with trash.

Maybe now they can take a bath and get a job....as Newt says.

Oh, he now leads Obama ....
The former House speaker leads Obama 45%-43%, according to a Rasmussen national poll released Thursday.

josevolution

This movement is far from over ...

usamamasan1

understood. shower and regroup!

BinauralJam

usamamasan1 wrote:

understood. shower and regroup!

Check out the video

josevolution

usamamasan1 wrote:

understood. shower and regroup!

I do everyday before i head to work ...