You piqued my curiosity so I checked and found 1 listing, currently going for $20.51, if there's thousands of these for sale here, the secondary market will not be that strong and Speedy's nemeses the flippers won't be able to profit greatly.
There were 2000 Benaroya Hall vinyls and those are very hot commodities. 5000 of these will still be somewhat collectible IMO.
Just picked one up after randomly walking into the Apple store here in Buffalo and checking in.
Definitely takes the sting off of missing out on the vinyl last night.
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1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
i paid $800 for mine ..i was a bit chocked last night thinking why am i collecting this stuff..but now im fine with it :shock:
i could do it at the time
i love collecting
still do
and i still will.
we thought that there were only 150-200 of these in the world guess a few 0's got missed off..
im glad you all have one now
ofcourse you are glad..thats why you share the info..you are top class Kevin...
cheers buddy..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
As a long time collector of PJ vinyl, here are my two cents on the flipping matter... I don't collect things to sell them. But, if I score a super-rare record, why wouldn't I enjoy the fact that it's worth a lot? Sure, I agree that we, as huge fans of the greatest American rock band ever, should have a shot at owning whatever memorabilia we want to buy, but wouldn't that take a lot of the fun out of collecting? I've spent a few bucks on ebay over the years, but that's just the nature of the collecting game, right? I don't necessarily assume most people on here are buying them to flip. I think most folks on here are like me when it comes to this stuff, and I'll never sell my collection. In fact, I might just get buried with my unopened Benny Hall!
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i paid $800 for mine ..i was a bit chocked last night thinking why am i collecting this stuff..but now im fine with it :shock:
i could do it at the time
i love collecting
still do
and i still will.
we thought that there were only 150-200 of these in the world guess a few 0's got missed off..
im glad you all have one now
It takes balls to come out and say that and have that mind set. Fair play Kev. As a collector you know that you win some and you lose some. Its part of the game.
One way to stop the flippers is to make the buyers hesitate to lay down big bucks in fear of the item becoming available again.
No buyer = no seller = no buyer = no seller...
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East Troy 9/4/11
Amsterdam 6/26/12
Amsterdam 6/27/12
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Hartford, CT 10/25/13
Seattle, WA 12/06/13
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i paid $800 for mine ..i was a bit chocked last night thinking why am i collecting this stuff..but now im fine with it :shock:
i could do it at the time
i love collecting
still do
and i still will.
we thought that there were only 150-200 of these in the world guess a few 0's got missed off..
im glad you all have one now
This is the correct attitude. I respect you for it.
Collecting is a "game". The thrill of the hunt is often the best part of it. I'd say that 99.9% of us still have something out there that we are chasing after. If you happen to have something in your collection that you're willing to part with to get that other item you go either trade what you have for it or sell what you have to raise the money to be able to buy it.
I not only collect Pearl Jam items but also tour golf equipment and on a small scale, Porsche automobiles. I've purchased a few Porsches for my collection and to use/enjoy. Then my taste changes and I sell those to be able to afford the next one that I want. Sometimes the cars I buy appreciate...sometimes they depreciate. It's part of the game.
My philosophy on collecting.... Buy what you like...not what you expect to appreciate in value. That way you'll never be disappointed.
- Uncle Snuffy
Soldier Field - Jul 11, 1995, Savage Hall - Sep 22, 1996,
Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Stadium - Nov 14, 1997,
Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Stadium - Nov 15, 1997, Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Jun 26, 1998, Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Jun 27, 1998, United Center - Jun 29, 1998, Riverport Amphitheatre - Jul 02, 1998, Allstate Arena - Oct 09, 2000, Assembly Hall - Apr 23, 2003
United Center - Jun 18, 2003, Fox Theatre - Oct 05, 2004, United Center - May 16, 2006, United Center - May 17, 2006, United Center - Aug 23, 2009, United Center - Aug 24, 2009, Sprint Center - May 03, 2010, Scottrade Center - May 04, 2010, Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 03, 2011, Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 04, 2011
-95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2 -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3 -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2 -19, EV Brussels
1998 -Barrie, ON
2003 -Cleveland
2006 -Cleveland, Pittsburgh
2007 -Lolla
2008 -EV -Santa Cruz, PJ -DC
2009 -EV -Baltimore I & II, PJ -Chicago I
2010 -Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 -EV -Detroit, Bridge School I & II, PJ -Toronto
2013 -Wrigley Field, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014 - Detroit
2016 - PJ - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Toronto I, Wrigley I & II, TOTD - MSG
2017 - PJ - NYC - RRHOF Induction, EV - Nashville 2018 - Wrigley I & II 2022 - Hamilton, ON, Toronto 2023 - Chicago I & II 2024 - Baltimore
This white LP is now on 2nd place in the goods top 10 list!
-95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2 -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3 -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2 -19, EV Brussels
There were 2000 Benaroya Hall vinyls and those are very hot commodities. 5000 of these will still be somewhat collectible IMO.
Obviously these will likely rise in value over time again, but if there's 5000 of them (speculation of course), then they won't be selling for crazy dollars. Its 2.5 times as many Benaroyas, so one could infer that they'd likely garner no more than 40% of what a Benaroya can get on a secondary market, probably less cause many more die hard collectors will have this now, and the Benaroyas were individually numbered making them more desirable to some collectors.
At any rate I think a large chunk of fans who were interested in owning one of these likely nabbed one for $25 plus shipping over the last 15 hours, there's gonna be those who missed out, creating some secondary market demand, but I think it won't be crazy.
i paid $800 for mine ..i was a bit chocked last night thinking why am i collecting this stuff..but now im fine with it :shock:
i could do it at the time
i love collecting
still do
and i still will.
we thought that there were only 150-200 of these in the world guess a few 0's got missed off..
im glad you all have one now
I feel for you guy, but here's a thought... could these be a second pressing? Why on earth would they hold 5000 copies of a record in a warehouse for 2 years?
i paid $800 for mine ..i was a bit chocked last night thinking why am i collecting this stuff..but now im fine with it :shock:
i could do it at the time
i love collecting
still do
and i still will.
we thought that there were only 150-200 of these in the world guess a few 0's got missed off..
im glad you all have one now
I feel for you guy, but here's a thought... could these be a second pressing? Why on earth would they hold 5000 copies of a record in a warehouse for 2 years?
Yeah, that is strange. However the description says original pressing. :shock:
i paid $800 for mine ..i was a bit chocked last night thinking why am i collecting this stuff..but now im fine with it :shock:
i could do it at the time
i love collecting
still do
and i still will.
we thought that there were only 150-200 of these in the world guess a few 0's got missed off..
im glad you all have one now
I feel for you guy, but here's a thought... could these be a second pressing? Why on earth would they hold 5000 copies of a record in a warehouse for 2 years?
Description says original pressing
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
Do people actually think these things are worth more than $25 now?? People are mainly buying them now cause they think they have a $$$ value... Trust me when I say MOST people arent buying them because they love Backspacer... I feel for those who paid bigtime bucks for these when they were "rare". I was almost one of those people up until this past week.
i paid $800 for mine ..i was a bit chocked last night thinking why am i collecting this stuff..but now im fine with it :shock:
i could do it at the time
i love collecting
still do
and i still will.
we thought that there were only 150-200 of these in the world guess a few 0's got missed off..
im glad you all have one now
I feel for you guy, but here's a thought... could these be a second pressing? Why on earth would they hold 5000 copies of a record in a warehouse for 2 years?
Yeah, that is strange. However the description says original pressing. :shock:
I don't see that. Has the description been revised? A release date is listed, but that could just mean the release date of the album overall.
Do people actually think these things are worth more than $25 now?? People are mainly buying them now cause they think they have a $$$ value... Trust me when I say MOST people arent buying them because they love Backspacer... I feel for those who paid bigtime bucks for these when they were "rare". I was almost one of those people up until this past week.
totally passed on it. black vinyl will do just fine for me.
my least favorite PJ album, going to get the least amount of spins. just need it to help complete the collection.
i hope the value doesn't decrease TOO much for those who bought the original batch for some big time loot.
i paid $800 for mine ..i was a bit chocked last night thinking why am i collecting this stuff..but now im fine with it :shock:
i could do it at the time
i love collecting
still do
and i still will.
we thought that there were only 150-200 of these in the world guess a few 0's got missed off..
im glad you all have one now
I feel for you guy, but here's a thought... could these be a second pressing? Why on earth would they hold 5000 copies of a record in a warehouse for 2 years?
Description says original pressing
I think 5000 is still a high estimate of the number pressed, but the point remains....Why would they just sit on these for so long?
My guess would be somewhere in the middle(maybe 3000 or so), unless quite a few people bought huge batches. Enough for plenty of people to get them, but not enough to totally kill the collectibility.
I feel for you guy, but here's a thought... could these be a second pressing? Why on earth would they hold 5000 copies of a record in a warehouse for 2 years?
Yeah, that is strange. However the description says original pressing. :shock:
I don't see that. Has the description been revised? A release date is listed, but that could just mean the release date of the album overall.
:think: :think:
Even stranger, that part of the description appears to have gone. It was definitely there before....
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There were 2000 Benaroya Hall vinyls and those are very hot commodities. 5000 of these will still be somewhat collectible IMO.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
i could do it at the time
i love collecting
still do
and i still will.
we thought that there were only 150-200 of these in the world guess a few 0's got missed off..
im glad you all have one now
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Definitely takes the sting off of missing out on the vinyl last night.
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
cheers buddy..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
As a long time collector of PJ vinyl, here are my two cents on the flipping matter... I don't collect things to sell them. But, if I score a super-rare record, why wouldn't I enjoy the fact that it's worth a lot? Sure, I agree that we, as huge fans of the greatest American rock band ever, should have a shot at owning whatever memorabilia we want to buy, but wouldn't that take a lot of the fun out of collecting? I've spent a few bucks on ebay over the years, but that's just the nature of the collecting game, right? I don't necessarily assume most people on here are buying them to flip. I think most folks on here are like me when it comes to this stuff, and I'll never sell my collection. In fact, I might just get buried with my unopened Benny Hall!
It takes balls to come out and say that and have that mind set. Fair play Kev. As a collector you know that you win some and you lose some. Its part of the game.
No buyer = no seller = no buyer = no seller...
East Troy 9/3/11
East Troy 9/4/11
Amsterdam 6/26/12
Amsterdam 6/27/12
Wrigley Field 7/19-20/13
Worcester, MA 10/15/13
Worcester, MA 10/16/13
Hartford, CT 10/25/13
Seattle, WA 12/06/13
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I need more.
Nothing seems to satisfy.
I said, I dont want it.
I just need it.
To breathe, to feel, to know Im alive.
This is the correct attitude. I respect you for it.
Collecting is a "game". The thrill of the hunt is often the best part of it. I'd say that 99.9% of us still have something out there that we are chasing after. If you happen to have something in your collection that you're willing to part with to get that other item you go either trade what you have for it or sell what you have to raise the money to be able to buy it.
I not only collect Pearl Jam items but also tour golf equipment and on a small scale, Porsche automobiles. I've purchased a few Porsches for my collection and to use/enjoy. Then my taste changes and I sell those to be able to afford the next one that I want. Sometimes the cars I buy appreciate...sometimes they depreciate. It's part of the game.
My philosophy on collecting.... Buy what you like...not what you expect to appreciate in value. That way you'll never be disappointed.
- Uncle Snuffy
Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Stadium - Nov 14, 1997,
Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Stadium - Nov 15, 1997, Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Jun 26, 1998, Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Jun 27, 1998, United Center - Jun 29, 1998, Riverport Amphitheatre - Jul 02, 1998, Allstate Arena - Oct 09, 2000, Assembly Hall - Apr 23, 2003
United Center - Jun 18, 2003, Fox Theatre - Oct 05, 2004, United Center - May 16, 2006, United Center - May 17, 2006, United Center - Aug 23, 2009, United Center - Aug 24, 2009, Sprint Center - May 03, 2010, Scottrade Center - May 04, 2010, Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 03, 2011, Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 04, 2011
-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
-16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
-17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
-18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
-19, EV Brussels
2003 -Cleveland
2006 -Cleveland, Pittsburgh
2007 -Lolla
2008 -EV -Santa Cruz, PJ -DC
2009 -EV -Baltimore I & II, PJ -Chicago I
2010 -Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 -EV -Detroit, Bridge School I & II, PJ -Toronto
2013 -Wrigley Field, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014 - Detroit
2016 - PJ - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Toronto I, Wrigley I & II, TOTD - MSG
2017 - PJ - NYC - RRHOF Induction, EV - Nashville
2018 - Wrigley I & II
2022 - Hamilton, ON, Toronto
2023 - Chicago I & II
2024 - Baltimore
-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
-16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
-17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
-18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
-19, EV Brussels
It was 3rd last night before they came back in stock today.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
At any rate I think a large chunk of fans who were interested in owning one of these likely nabbed one for $25 plus shipping over the last 15 hours, there's gonna be those who missed out, creating some secondary market demand, but I think it won't be crazy.
keep in mind some of us purchased for others who were unavail and one as a christmas gift. not all multiple purchases were for "greed"
yeah I'm guessing santos means people that bought very very many, as in upwards of 25 or more
Hope so, got one for me, and one for another 10c member away from his PC today
I feel for you guy, but here's a thought... could these be a second pressing? Why on earth would they hold 5000 copies of a record in a warehouse for 2 years?
Yeah, that is strange. However the description says original pressing. :shock:
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Description says original pressing
Wait a minute, you paid $800 for this white Vinyl Backspacer? Oh damn dude, if you did I truly feel for you.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
I don't see that. Has the description been revised? A release date is listed, but that could just mean the release date of the album overall.
totally passed on it. black vinyl will do just fine for me.
my least favorite PJ album, going to get the least amount of spins. just need it to help complete the collection.
i hope the value doesn't decrease TOO much for those who bought the original batch for some big time loot.
I think 5000 is still a high estimate of the number pressed, but the point remains....Why would they just sit on these for so long?
My guess would be somewhere in the middle(maybe 3000 or so), unless quite a few people bought huge batches. Enough for plenty of people to get them, but not enough to totally kill the collectibility.
:think: :think:
Even stranger, that part of the description appears to have gone. It was definitely there before....
http://www.strummersphotography.com
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Ah ok, still, hope nobody gets the copy that sat closest to the heating pipe in the warehouse for the past 2 years.
I knew it said original pressing somewhere! :P
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