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  • Dirty Frank Z
    Dirty Frank Z Posts: 2,878
    :D
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    Keep it alive!

    Have we heard anything about the PJ20 screening?
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  • rpech'e
    rpech'e Posts: 1,106
    evenflow82 wrote:
    Keep it alive!

    Have we heard anything about the PJ20 screening?

    I was wondering the same thing?
  • rpech'e
    rpech'e Posts: 1,106
    FlannelGal wrote:
    vant0037 wrote:
    This is what I feel like today:

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    :? :lol:


    I feel the same way :D Have the day off, great weather and 36 days til Dallas!
  • FlannelGal
    FlannelGal Minneapolis, MN Posts: 532
    Good chance I won't have a job by the end of year...it would be nice if they let me know so I could follow PJ around on tour! :lol:
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  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    FlannelGal wrote:
    Good chance I won't have a job by the end of year...it would be nice if they let me know so I could follow PJ around on tour! :lol:

    I have a feeling after australia and New Zeland it will be Europe and then that's it for the LB tour. :cry:
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  • rpech'e
    rpech'e Posts: 1,106
    I finally heard Sirens on the radio today 8-)
  • FlannelGal
    FlannelGal Minneapolis, MN Posts: 532
    evenflow82 wrote:
    FlannelGal wrote:
    Good chance I won't have a job by the end of year...it would be nice if they let me know so I could follow PJ around on tour! :lol:

    I have a feeling after australia and New Zeland it will be Europe and then that's it for the LB tour. :cry:

    I don't!
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  • kdiddy
    kdiddy Posts: 737
    FlannelGal wrote:
    evenflow82 wrote:
    FlannelGal wrote:
    Good chance I won't have a job by the end of year...it would be nice if they let me know so I could follow PJ around on tour! :lol:

    I have a feeling after australia and New Zeland it will be Europe and then that's it for the LB tour. :cry:

    I don't!

    I'm with ya Flannel! Here's to high hopes :corn:
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    PJ only tours when they want to, and I really don't think they like doing it anymore. They only do it because they have to.

    After the Aus tour they'll do the summer festival gigs in europe starting in May and call it a day for the LB tour.

    I hope I'm wrong, but the piecemeal touring over the last seven years says otherwise.
    I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
    -Christopher Walken

    you're=you are
    your=showing ownership

    The truth has a well known liberal bias.
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  • FlannelGal
    FlannelGal Minneapolis, MN Posts: 532
    I just don't see any point to saying things like "they're never going to play here" or "they hate to tour", etc. Yes, they don't tour as much as they did in 1992, but let's face it, they are older and have families. I don't think it's a reasonable request of us fans to ask them to miss their children growing up to sing us a few songs. I think they still like to tour - they are just more realistic about it. They want to keep doing it and don't want to get burned out or frustrated so they pace themselves a little more. Give 'em a break and stay positive - they'll play the
    Fargo-Brookings-Duluth-St.Paul-Minneapolis-Mankato-Des Moines-Milwaukee-Chicago circuit next year! :D


    Also TWO PJ songs played the Wild game last night - and a win (see, things are looking up already ;) )
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  • kdiddy
    kdiddy Posts: 737
    FlannelGal wrote:
    I just don't see any point to saying things like "they're never going to play here" or "they hate to tour", etc. Yes, they don't tour as much as they did in 1992, but let's face it, they are older and have families. I don't think it's a reasonable request of us fans to ask them to miss their children growing up to sing us a few songs. I think they still like to tour - they are just more realistic about it. They want to keep doing it and don't want to get burned out or frustrated so they pace themselves a little more. Give 'em a break and stay positive - they'll play the
    Fargo-Brookings-Duluth-St.Paul-Minneapolis-Mankato-Des Moines-Milwaukee-Chicago circuit next year! :D


    Also TWO PJ songs played the Wild game last night - and a win (see, things are looking up already ;) )

    Cheers! Spin the Black Circle, Got Some or Fixer (can't remember..), and I feel like there was a third. I dunno, either way, the Xcel definitely has far better music than the Bridgestone in Nashville.. man their music the other night was laughable!
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    A concert on the Duluth lift bridge. :P Imagine how the sound would carry over lake superior. Ed can sing all his songs with wave and water metaphors.
    I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
    -Christopher Walken

    you're=you are
    your=showing ownership

    The truth has a well known liberal bias.
    -Stephen Colbert
  • GuitarEnthusiast
    GuitarEnthusiast Posts: 628
    evenflow82 wrote:
    A concert on the Duluth lift bridge. :P Imagine how the sound would carry over lake superior. Ed can sing all his songs with wave and water metaphors.

    This is an ingenious idea!
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  • vant0037
    vant0037 Posts: 6,170
    FlannelGal wrote:
    I just don't see any point to saying things like "they're never going to play here" or "they hate to tour", etc. Yes, they don't tour as much as they did in 1992, but let's face it, they are older and have families. I don't think it's a reasonable request of us fans to ask them to miss their children growing up to sing us a few songs. I think they still like to tour - they are just more realistic about it. They want to keep doing it and don't want to get burned out or frustrated so they pace themselves a little more. Give 'em a break and stay positive - they'll play the
    Fargo-Brookings-Duluth-St.Paul-Minneapolis-Mankato-Des Moines-Milwaukee-Chicago circuit next year! :D


    Also TWO PJ songs played the Wild game last night - and a win (see, things are looking up already ;) )

    Bingo. Couldn't agree more.

    A complaint that the band doesn't play your hometown (or that their sound has changed, for that matter) is tantamount to saying the band owes you something. They don't. No band ever will.

    It sucks, but that's life. I wish they'd play here more too, but they don't and so I travel when I can. We save frequent flyer miles and vacation time and have a monthly travel budget, all so that we can go see our favorite band play.

    I know not everyone has the time/money/resources to do that. We don't always (although I'm very confident that my student loan debt total matches or exceeds anyone's here :lol: ), but that's life too.

    The bottom line is: it sucks that they don't play here more, but so what? It's a band. Enjoy them from afar, enjoy them up close by traveling, or don't enjoy them at all. Pretty easy.
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  • vant0037
    vant0037 Posts: 6,170
    FlannelGal wrote:
    Also TWO PJ songs played the Wild game last night - and a win (see, things are looking up already ;) )

    We were at the game last Saturday night and heard "Go." We decided that someone there is a big PJ fan. Rarely am I there for a game (NCAA or NHL) and don't hear a PJ song or two.

    Fuck that will be awesome to see them there again. :D
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  • AndySlash
    AndySlash Posts: 3,287
    vant0037 wrote:
    A complaint that the band doesn't play your hometown (or that their sound has changed, for that matter) is tantamount to saying the band owes you something.

    that's a pretty big leap. complaint = debt? no, i don't think so.

    they don't owe me anything at all. but it sure would be nice to sleep in my own bed after a show. is that selfish? absolutely. but i'm definitely not saying they owe me that opportunity.
  • GuitarEnthusiast
    GuitarEnthusiast Posts: 628
    Just checked the mail and LB was waiting for me!

    Now, time to give it a proper listen! :-)
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  • vant0037
    vant0037 Posts: 6,170
    AndySlash wrote:
    vant0037 wrote:
    A complaint that the band doesn't play your hometown (or that their sound has changed, for that matter) is tantamount to saying the band owes you something.

    that's a pretty big leap. complaint = debt? no, i don't think so.

    they don't owe me anything at all. but it sure would be nice to sleep in my own bed after a show. is that selfish? absolutely. but i'm definitely not saying they owe me that opportunity.

    Well of course it would be great to sleep at home after a show, but that's sort of irrelevant.

    Run it down this way.

    Person 1: "PJ never plays shows in ______."
    Person 2: "And?"
    Person 1: [fill in any reason: "I don't like that/it's not fair etc"]
    Person 2: "Why is that a problem?"
    Person 1: [fill in any reason: "it's not convenient for me/they should play areas equally etc"]
    Person 2: "Why should they do anything different than what they want?"
    Person 1: "Because I would like them to."
    Person 2: "Uh, ok."

    Obviously that's a slightly tongue-in-cheek conversation, but my point is the same. So long as fanhood is voluntary, complaining is (a) pointless, and (b) when it happens, suggestive of some indefensible claim on the band (i.e. "they owe me something etc"). If it weren't, why would they stay?

    So why am I comfortable making the leap I did?

    Because if the complaint isn't lodged because of a belief that they owe us something, then it's because the person just plain old doesn't like what the band does these days.

    And...if you don't like what the band does, why would you waste your time with them? (it's voluntary, remember?)

    And so the fact that the complaints persist means the person is still here and obviously still a fan...see where I'm going with it? ;)


    Sorry guys. I might come across as testy, but it's been a long week. PJ is fun. Complaining isn't. I'll never be convinced that complaints about what the band does - music or tours or who they are sponsored by etc - are legitimate. That's not to say I love everything they do - I don't. Play Minnesota already. See? But it means that as long as I'm not compelled to support them with my membership, I have ABSOLUTELY no claim on them. They can do what they want. I just have a really hard time understanding why so many 10c members would continue to throw money at the band - including renewing their memberships - when the band makes them so unhappy. I've read that some fans renew only so they have fan club ticket opportunities. Ah, so complaining about the band is really only relative to when people are getting their way around here. Hmmm...

    So where does that leave a complaint? It's really just negativity, however true or accurate or insightful as it might be. The complaint about their tour schedule is either because of some belief that the band owes us something or just negativity. Neither one is real great.

    You can enjoy them from afar, you can enjoy them up close, or you can enjoy them not at all. It's a band. It's really that easy.

    This has been another end of the week Vant-Rant.

    Take care.



    PS find me some tickets Ryan. :mrgreen:
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  • Dirty Frank Z
    Dirty Frank Z Posts: 2,878
    vant0037 wrote:
    FlannelGal wrote:
    Also TWO PJ songs played the Wild game last night - and a win (see, things are looking up already ;) )

    We were at the game last Saturday night and heard "Go." We decided that someone there is a big PJ fan. Rarely am I there for a game (NCAA or NHL) and don't hear a PJ song or two.

    Fuck that will be awesome to see them there again. :D

    I'm fairly certain Parise is a big PJ guy.

    I'm calling him out..

    Parise, are you in the tenclub?

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