I call BS on that. None of those dates work with other events already scheduled. Also, why would the band play cities four months after they just played them?
finally, we would have heard the inevitable, "My friend works at this venue and heard...." rumors already. Complete fake info.
The sentiment remains the same. Play Minnesota, pearl jam!!!
I agree.
But here's one idea I've kicked around with myself (and dismissed, only to resurrect it a few days later):
What if 2014 is the return of the super tour for the band? I know I know, their touring history over the last 6 years suggests otherwise, but what if Lightning Bolt is different? What if they truly intended all along to really promote the hell out of this thing? What if the band really is as rejuvenated as they sound live and on the new album? The most curious possibility: what if Matt's hiatus really is an indication that they will be touring - a lot?
Maybe not 70 dates, but what about 30-40 total? Is that so unbelievable? As far as I can tell, they're booked through February 2, 2014. That's all we know. It's possible that Europe will get shows, so maybe block out June and July (that's their recent history over there). Would Matt really take an entire year off from Soundgarden for only 3 months of shows?
Fuck. This is getting exciting...
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yeah, beerbarons toronto rumor thread from last night got my attention and piqued my excitement. damn rumors...
someone in that thread hoped for bonnaroo, too, which would be most excellent. however, it occurred to me that were a midwest tour to happen, there may be a possibility they would hit up mpls/st. paul just before or after the fest, meaning a possibility that i wouldn't be able to go because of the travel aspect. man, would that suck.
yeah, beerbarons toronto rumor thread from last night got my attention and piqued my excitement. damn rumors...
someone in that thread hoped for bonnaroo, too, which would be most excellent. however, it occurred to me that were a midwest tour to happen, there may be a possibility they would hit up mpls/st. paul just before or after the fest, meaning a possibility that i wouldn't be able to go because of the travel aspect. man, would that suck.
The one thing I would say about Bonnaroo is that, while I could be wrong, outside of Europe they don't tend to repeat festivals often. They've done Jazz Fest once, Outside Lands Fest once, Lollapalooza once (not including 90s stuff), Bonnaroo once. Would they go again?
Hope so, because that means a 2014 US tour...
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2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
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yeah, beerbarons toronto rumor thread from last night got my attention and piqued my excitement. damn rumors...
someone in that thread hoped for bonnaroo, too, which would be most excellent. however, it occurred to me that were a midwest tour to happen, there may be a possibility they would hit up mpls/st. paul just before or after the fest, meaning a possibility that i wouldn't be able to go because of the travel aspect. man, would that suck.
The one thing I would say about Bonnaroo is that, while I could be wrong, outside of Europe they don't tend to repeat festivals often. They've done Jazz Fest once, Outside Lands Fest once, Lollapalooza once (not including 90s stuff), Bonnaroo once. Would they go again?
Hope so, because that means a 2014 US tour...
I hope for no more festival shows, too!
Unfortunately, it's my understanding festivals are easy money for bands. Headliners get a big chunk of cash to play a shortened set. And they don't have to pay as much $$$ to set up their equipment since most of the stage/lights/sound are already in place.
That said, I think Chicago's been pretty spoiled lately. I'm hoping they skip Chicago this time around and do 2 night stands in Milwaukee/St Paul/Denver to make up for shortened sets we got when they opened for Tom Petty. Don't get me wrong - those were great shows!
So February 2014 is out. Ed solo shows in Australia.
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I don't understand or believe in the idea that Pearl Jam doesn't do big tours anymore. Just because they haven't doesn't mean 2014 wont be the year they do decide to tour the hell out of the US. I mean, it's kind of how they make a living. It's up to them. Other big, older bands (Petty, Springsteen, the Rolling goddamn Stones) have toured the hell out of one album after being a band 20+ years. Why not PJ?
i have to think they would IF they wanted to. bonnaroo would certainly have them back, as bands like radiohead, dave matthews, and phish have all done the repeat headliner thing. pretty sure pearl jam have doubled up on some of the euro fests, so it's not unprecedented for them- it just hasn't happened in the us.
The band and Ed seem to be booking places right and left...but still no MN. :x
As for the band really touring hard, I just don't buy it. They play where they want and when they want, which for the last decade or so has been few places and few times.
Getting five people with families who would rather be doing something else in the same room at the same time is like herding cats.
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The band and Ed seem to be booking places right and left...but still no MN. :x
As for the band really touring hard, I just don't buy it. They play where they want and when they want, which for the last decade or so has been few places and few times.
Getting five people with families who would rather be doing something else in the same room at the same time is like herding cats.
You did not have to be at a show this year to see that the band is having fun again...
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I think it's a lot harder for the band to play gigs now than it ever has been. I remember reading an interview where Stone said something along the lines of, "We don't play any more shows than what we want to play." If the last almost ten years shows us anything, it's that the band doesn't want to play many shows.
Maybe I'm off and putting too much stock in his statement, but the question asked was why the band plays so few shows....
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Let's talk Pearl Jam. What are your show "weird stats?"
sweet. i love setlist nerd stuff.
i'll keep your format since we have a lot in common and i can just save my fingers from typing what you already done did.
1. Covers - 53 unique covers seen. I saw the last time they played "My Generation" (6/30/98 MPLS, MN). The most covers I've seen in a show is 7 (7 of 24 songs, Boston I, 2004). I've seen all of the Pink Floyd covers they do twice over (and all in one show!). I've seen "Whip It" (once, 1x only), "I Must Not Think Bad Thoughts" (once, 2x total), "The Needle and The Damage Done" (once, 3x total), "Here's To the State of Mississippi" (once, 3x total), "Public Image" (once, 7x total), "Bleed For Me" (once, 8x total), "Driven To Tears" (twice, 12x total), and, wait for it, "Happy Birthday" (twice, 7x total)!
2. States- I've seen them in 10 states (CA 6x, IL 5x, KS 1x, MA 1x, MN 4x, MT 1x, ND 1x, PA 1x, TN 1x, WI 2x).
3. Countries - I've seen them in 2 countries (Canada, USA).
4. Months - I've seen PJ in the following months (May: 3 times, June: 6 times, July: 4 times, August: 2 times, September: 6 times, October 1 times, November 3 times).
5. Albums - I've seen live: 100% of Ten (11 of 11), 100% of Vs. (12 of 12), 79% of Vitalogy (11 of 14, 3 of which have never been played), 92% of No Code (12 of 13), 100% of Yield (12 of 13), 77% of Binaural (10 of 13), 80% of Riot Act (12 of 15), 92% of self-titled/Avocado (12 of 13), 82% of Backspacer (9 of 11), 92% of Lightning Bolt (11 of 12), and 43% of Lost Dogs (13 of 30).
6. Rarities (originals, <=10x played) - All The Way (played 2x total, seen once), Bugs (played 3x total, seen twice), Hold On (played 4x total, seen once), Sweet Lew (played 2x, seen once), In The Moonlight (played 2x total, seen once), Education (played 7x total, seen twice), Help Help (played 10x, seen twice), Speed of Sound (played 5x total, seen twice), I'm Open (played 9x total, seen twice), Arc (played 9x total, seen once), Out of My Mind (played 3x, seen once)
7. Openers - 17 unique openers. The "rarest" opener I've seen is Arc (Fargo). I've gotten Release 5x, Oceans 2x, Why Go 2x, Pendulum 2x, Of the Girl 2x, 12 songs at 1x each (Present Tense, Betterman, Worldwide Suicide, Interstellar Corduroy, Last Exit, Severed Hand, Hard To Imagine, Long Road, Wash, Elderly Woman, Sometimes, Arc).
8. Closers - 8 unique closers. The "rarest" closer I've seen is All Along the Watchtower (Bonnaroo). I've gotten YL 10x, RITFW 7x, Alive 2x, Indifference 2x, All Along the Watchtower 1x, Kick Out The Jams 1x, Porch 1x, Baba O'Riley 1x.
9. Seats - I've been all over. I think I tend to get Mike's side.
If PJ plays Minnesota in 2014 will this thread die or will it just continue on in preparation of them coming back in 2015 and beyond?
It will never die!
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Let's talk Pearl Jam. What are your show "weird stats?"
sweet. i love setlist nerd stuff.
i'll keep your format since we have a lot in common and i can just save my fingers from typing what you already done did.
1. Covers - 53 unique covers seen. I saw the last time they played "My Generation" (6/30/98 MPLS, MN). The most covers I've seen in a show is 7 (7 of 24 songs, Boston I, 2004). I've seen all of the Pink Floyd covers they do twice over (and all in one show!). I've seen "Whip It" (once, 1x only), "I Must Not Think Bad Thoughts" (once, 2x total), "The Needle and The Damage Done" (once, 3x total), "Here's To the State of Mississippi" (once, 3x total), "Public Image" (once, 7x total), "Bleed For Me" (once, 8x total), "Driven To Tears" (twice, 12x total), and, wait for it, "Happy Birthday" (twice, 7x total)!
2. States- I've seen them in 10 states (CA 6x, IL 5x, KS 1x, MA 1x, MN 4x, MT 1x, ND 1x, PA 1x, TN 1x, WI 2x).
3. Countries - I've seen them in 2 countries (Canada, USA).
4. Months - I've seen PJ in the following months (May: 3 times, June: 6 times, July: 4 times, August: 2 times, September: 6 times, October 1 times, November 3 times).
5. Albums - I've seen live: 100% of Ten (11 of 11), 100% of Vs. (12 of 12), 79% of Vitalogy (11 of 14, 3 of which have never been played), 92% of No Code (12 of 13), 100% of Yield (12 of 13), 77% of Binaural (10 of 13), 80% of Riot Act (12 of 15), 92% of self-titled/Avocado (12 of 13), 82% of Backspacer (9 of 11), 92% of Lightning Bolt (11 of 12), and 43% of Lost Dogs (13 of 30).
6. Rarities (originals, <=10x played) - All The Way (played 2x total, seen once), Bugs (played 3x total, seen twice), Hold On (played 4x total, seen once), Sweet Lew (played 2x, seen once), In The Moonlight (played 2x total, seen once), Education (played 7x total, seen twice), Help Help (played 10x, seen twice), Speed of Sound (played 5x total, seen twice), I'm Open (played 9x total, seen twice), Arc (played 9x total, seen once), Out of My Mind (played 3x, seen once)
7. Openers - 17 unique openers. The "rarest" opener I've seen is Arc (Fargo). I've gotten Release 5x, Oceans 2x, Why Go 2x, Pendulum 2x, Of the Girl 2x, 12 songs at 1x each (Present Tense, Betterman, Worldwide Suicide, Interstellar Corduroy, Last Exit, Severed Hand, Hard To Imagine, Long Road, Wash, Elderly Woman, Sometimes, Arc).
8. Closers - 8 unique closers. The "rarest" closer I've seen is All Along the Watchtower (Bonnaroo). I've gotten YL 10x, RITFW 7x, Alive 2x, Indifference 2x, All Along the Watchtower 1x, Kick Out The Jams 1x, Porch 1x, Baba O'Riley 1x.
9. Seats - I've been all over. I think I tend to get Mike's side.
Seats:
Got the sit on the player's bench at the United Center. I brought my cousin who was stoked because he's a huge hockey fan. We put our beers in the wall where the player's put their gatorade. It was fun playing with the door and pretending we were jumping over the wall onto the 'ice'.
If PJ plays Minnesota in 2014 will this thread die or will it just continue on in preparation of them coming back in 2015 and beyond?
It's already been updated from 2011, 2012 and into 2013. It's more of a "Minnesota PJ fans" thread now anyway.
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So.... will you get a show when this hits 100,000 views :corn:
Totally. I think it's in the 10c by-laws or something.
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So.... will you get a show when this hits 100,000 views :corn:
Totally. I think it's in the 10c by-laws or something.
What are you, a lawyer or something?
This guy's a comedian!
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Fun Fact (Stat) for me is until the Wrigley show, I had a different opening song for every show I went to.
STP 03 - Of The Girl
STP 06 - Last Exit
STP 06 - Interstellar Overdrive - Corduroy
PJ20 - Release
PJ20 - Wash
ATL 012 - Why Go?
and then Wrigley 013 - Release (Again). Broke my streak, was a little bumed they didnt play Long Road or Hard to Imagine given the lyrics and the circumstances. Oh well.
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I agree.
But here's one idea I've kicked around with myself (and dismissed, only to resurrect it a few days later):
What if 2014 is the return of the super tour for the band? I know I know, their touring history over the last 6 years suggests otherwise, but what if Lightning Bolt is different? What if they truly intended all along to really promote the hell out of this thing? What if the band really is as rejuvenated as they sound live and on the new album? The most curious possibility: what if Matt's hiatus really is an indication that they will be touring - a lot?
Maybe not 70 dates, but what about 30-40 total? Is that so unbelievable? As far as I can tell, they're booked through February 2, 2014. That's all we know. It's possible that Europe will get shows, so maybe block out June and July (that's their recent history over there). Would Matt really take an entire year off from Soundgarden for only 3 months of shows?
Fuck. This is getting exciting...
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someone in that thread hoped for bonnaroo, too, which would be most excellent. however, it occurred to me that were a midwest tour to happen, there may be a possibility they would hit up mpls/st. paul just before or after the fest, meaning a possibility that i wouldn't be able to go because of the travel aspect. man, would that suck.
The one thing I would say about Bonnaroo is that, while I could be wrong, outside of Europe they don't tend to repeat festivals often. They've done Jazz Fest once, Outside Lands Fest once, Lollapalooza once (not including 90s stuff), Bonnaroo once. Would they go again?
Hope so, because that means a 2014 US tour...
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I hope for no more festival shows, too!
Unfortunately, it's my understanding festivals are easy money for bands. Headliners get a big chunk of cash to play a shortened set. And they don't have to pay as much $$$ to set up their equipment since most of the stage/lights/sound are already in place.
That said, I think Chicago's been pretty spoiled lately. I'm hoping they skip Chicago this time around and do 2 night stands in Milwaukee/St Paul/Denver to make up for shortened sets we got when they opened for Tom Petty. Don't get me wrong - those were great shows!
Maybe a return to Summerfest & Red Rocks?!
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hmph....didn't see that coming!
So, I'll jump right in. ...
I don't understand or believe in the idea that Pearl Jam doesn't do big tours anymore. Just because they haven't doesn't mean 2014 wont be the year they do decide to tour the hell out of the US. I mean, it's kind of how they make a living. It's up to them. Other big, older bands (Petty, Springsteen, the Rolling goddamn Stones) have toured the hell out of one album after being a band 20+ years. Why not PJ?
Also, just watched Fargo.
Play MN. Go Bears!
i have to think they would IF they wanted to. bonnaroo would certainly have them back, as bands like radiohead, dave matthews, and phish have all done the repeat headliner thing. pretty sure pearl jam have doubled up on some of the euro fests, so it's not unprecedented for them- it just hasn't happened in the us.
I mean, this opens up a whole 'nother bag of worms!
PJ plays MN late summer/fall. Then EV returns next winter/spring for solo shows?
I'm guessing he'll play Papa Charlie's...
As for the band really touring hard, I just don't buy it. They play where they want and when they want, which for the last decade or so has been few places and few times.
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A bit of a stretch. :shock:
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2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
2018-06-18 London 1
2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
2022-09-16 Nashville
2023-08-31 St. Paul
2023-09-02 St. Paul
2023-09-05 Chicago 1
2023-08-31 Wrigley 2
2023-09-15 Fenway 1
Maybe I'm off and putting too much stock in his statement, but the question asked was why the band plays so few shows....
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
sweet. i love setlist nerd stuff.
i'll keep your format since we have a lot in common and i can just save my fingers from typing what you already done did.
1. Covers - 53 unique covers seen. I saw the last time they played "My Generation" (6/30/98 MPLS, MN). The most covers I've seen in a show is 7 (7 of 24 songs, Boston I, 2004). I've seen all of the Pink Floyd covers they do twice over (and all in one show!). I've seen "Whip It" (once, 1x only), "I Must Not Think Bad Thoughts" (once, 2x total), "The Needle and The Damage Done" (once, 3x total), "Here's To the State of Mississippi" (once, 3x total), "Public Image" (once, 7x total), "Bleed For Me" (once, 8x total), "Driven To Tears" (twice, 12x total), and, wait for it, "Happy Birthday" (twice, 7x total)!
2. States- I've seen them in 10 states (CA 6x, IL 5x, KS 1x, MA 1x, MN 4x, MT 1x, ND 1x, PA 1x, TN 1x, WI 2x).
3. Countries - I've seen them in 2 countries (Canada, USA).
4. Months - I've seen PJ in the following months (May: 3 times, June: 6 times, July: 4 times, August: 2 times, September: 6 times, October 1 times, November 3 times).
5. Albums - I've seen live: 100% of Ten (11 of 11), 100% of Vs. (12 of 12), 79% of Vitalogy (11 of 14, 3 of which have never been played), 92% of No Code (12 of 13), 100% of Yield (12 of 13), 77% of Binaural (10 of 13), 80% of Riot Act (12 of 15), 92% of self-titled/Avocado (12 of 13), 82% of Backspacer (9 of 11), 92% of Lightning Bolt (11 of 12), and 43% of Lost Dogs (13 of 30).
6. Rarities (originals, <=10x played) - All The Way (played 2x total, seen once), Bugs (played 3x total, seen twice), Hold On (played 4x total, seen once), Sweet Lew (played 2x, seen once), In The Moonlight (played 2x total, seen once), Education (played 7x total, seen twice), Help Help (played 10x, seen twice), Speed of Sound (played 5x total, seen twice), I'm Open (played 9x total, seen twice), Arc (played 9x total, seen once), Out of My Mind (played 3x, seen once)
7. Openers - 17 unique openers. The "rarest" opener I've seen is Arc (Fargo). I've gotten Release 5x, Oceans 2x, Why Go 2x, Pendulum 2x, Of the Girl 2x, 12 songs at 1x each (Present Tense, Betterman, Worldwide Suicide, Interstellar Corduroy, Last Exit, Severed Hand, Hard To Imagine, Long Road, Wash, Elderly Woman, Sometimes, Arc).
8. Closers - 8 unique closers. The "rarest" closer I've seen is All Along the Watchtower (Bonnaroo). I've gotten YL 10x, RITFW 7x, Alive 2x, Indifference 2x, All Along the Watchtower 1x, Kick Out The Jams 1x, Porch 1x, Baba O'Riley 1x.
9. Seats - I've been all over. I think I tend to get Mike's side.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
man, with the way it's been it feels like it's 50 out. t-shirt weather!
2011-09-04 PJ20 | 2011-09-17 Winnipeg | 2012-09-30 Missoula | 2012-11-18 Tulsa EV | 2013-07-19 Chicago | 2013-11-15 Dallas
2013-11-16 OKC | 2014-10-09 Lincoln | 2014-10-17 Moline | 2014-10-19 St. Paul | 2014-10-20 Milwaukee | 2016-08-20 Chicago
2016-08-22 Chicago | 2018-08-18 Chicago | 2018-08-20 Chicago | 2022-05-09 Phoenix | 2022-05-20 Las Vegas | 2022-09-18 St. Louis
2022-09-20 OKC | 2023-08-31 St. Paul | 2023-09-02 St. Paul | 2024-05-16 Las Vegas | 2024-05-18 Las Vegas | 2024-08-31 Chicago
Seats:
Got the sit on the player's bench at the United Center. I brought my cousin who was stoked because he's a huge hockey fan. We put our beers in the wall where the player's put their gatorade. It was fun playing with the door and pretending we were jumping over the wall onto the 'ice'.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
It's already been updated from 2011, 2012 and into 2013. It's more of a "Minnesota PJ fans" thread now anyway.
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
2018-06-18 London 1
2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
2022-09-16 Nashville
2023-08-31 St. Paul
2023-09-02 St. Paul
2023-09-05 Chicago 1
2023-08-31 Wrigley 2
2023-09-15 Fenway 1
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
Totally. I think it's in the 10c by-laws or something.
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
2018-06-18 London 1
2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
2022-09-16 Nashville
2023-08-31 St. Paul
2023-09-02 St. Paul
2023-09-05 Chicago 1
2023-08-31 Wrigley 2
2023-09-15 Fenway 1
What are you, a lawyer or something?
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
This guy's a comedian!
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
2018-06-18 London 1
2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
2022-09-16 Nashville
2023-08-31 St. Paul
2023-09-02 St. Paul
2023-09-05 Chicago 1
2023-08-31 Wrigley 2
2023-09-15 Fenway 1
It was ratified at the bi-weekly Tenclub meeting. If you check the agenda for November 2013, it's there in section B, subsection 3, article D.
All this was in the orientation.
STP 03 - Of The Girl
STP 06 - Last Exit
STP 06 - Interstellar Overdrive - Corduroy
PJ20 - Release
PJ20 - Wash
ATL 012 - Why Go?
and then Wrigley 013 - Release (Again). Broke my streak, was a little bumed they didnt play Long Road or Hard to Imagine given the lyrics and the circumstances. Oh well.