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The band doesn't seem hyper any more

Plokoon111Plokoon111 Posts: 9
edited August 2008 in The Porch
When ever I see them live on you tube or for real, they're always laid back, and when you compare it to the 1991-1994 live videos they ust to jump around, stage dive, go crazy. Now they just stand and play.
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  • smile05smile05 Posts: 600
    1994 was 14 years ago,it could be worse
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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-7MyOUeVd0

    Happy? Skip to 1:50 if your lazy.
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  • Given to...Given to... Wyoming Posts: 4,997
    They cant all be like Mick Jagger and Steven Tyler. Did Keith Richards ever move much, or do you think he invented the Stone swagger?

    I know I dont move like I did 15 years ago.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I'm willing to guess that since 2000, the band have been heavily into playing live shows that are worth selling as official boots. They've scrapped a lot of the stage acrobatics that make for visually exciting spectacles but sloppy play, in favour of streamlined musical quality. That might mean there's a nervous edge missing from their performances, but let's face it, you're not going to be so pumped up and using adrenalin, nearly eighteen years after first playing to sizeable audiences. Also, they have a lot more material now to get through in a show, and three minutes of playing hard takes it out of a person, let alone three hours. They're pacing themselves.

    Plus, Mick Jagger is the son of a fitness expert. He's an exceptional human being, even if he does have a neck like a dead snake. And Keef has been in undead pickled suspension since 1973. So they don't count. PJ are middle-aged fellas. They need to take it easier, these days. ;)
  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    My only complaint is that they don't rehearse enough anymore. The 2008 tour was a sloppy mess.
  • Rjonesrm20Rjonesrm20 Posts: 380
    JWBusher wrote:
    My only complaint is that they don't rehearse enough anymore. The 2008 tour was a sloppy mess.


    what?
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    Let's see between 1991 and 1995 I:

    Jumped out of an airplane
    Jumped off of bridges as high as 60 feet (EDIT: Into Water)
    Jumped off of cliffs on ski's with the highest jump being about 30 feet
    Climbed everything in site, including to the Base Camp of Mt. Everest (EDIT: Did this in 2001)
    Played Soccer, Wrestled, and other sports


    Now at age 34, much younger than the members of Pearl Jam, I:

    Can't do any of those things now.


    Damn this getting older shit. PJ Brings it much harder than I could, but the days of Eddie climbing the rafters, and jumping into the crowd are pretty much over.
  • Given to...Given to... Wyoming Posts: 4,997
    Wilds, thats some bad ass entertainment!

    I fathered and raised two kids and did lots of those same exact things!


    OK that was a lie, but the two kids are real!
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Plokoon111 wrote:
    When ever I see them live on you tube or for real, they're always laid back, and when you compare it to the 1991-1994 live videos they ust to jump around, stage dive, go crazy. Now they just stand and play.
    I used to miss those days, but I grew up and those old videos of them acting like little sugar-crazed kids just look silly and retarded now.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Wilds wrote:
    Let's see between 1991 and 1995 I:

    Jumped out of an airplane
    Jumped off of bridges as high as 60 feet (EDIT: Into Water)
    Jumped off of cliffs on ski's with the highest jump being about 30 feet
    Climbed everything in site, including to the Base Camp of Mt. Everest (EDIT: Did this in 2001)
    Played Soccer, Wrestled, and other sports


    Now at age 34, much younger than the members of Pearl Jam, I:

    Can't do any of those things now.


    Damn this getting older shit. PJ Brings it much harder than I could, but the days of Eddie climbing the rafters, and jumping into the crowd are pretty much over.
    Are you serious? Only 34? Did you have an accident? I turn 30 in less than two months and I'm in better shape now than I was in my early 20s.
  • brokenarrowbrokenarrow Posts: 478
    Wilds wrote:
    Let's see between 1991 and 1995 I:

    Jumped out of an airplane
    Jumped off of bridges as high as 60 feet (EDIT: Into Water)
    Jumped off of cliffs on ski's with the highest jump being about 30 feet
    Climbed everything in site, including to the Base Camp of Mt. Everest (EDIT: Did this in 2001)
    Played Soccer, Wrestled, and other sports


    Now at age 34, much younger than the members of Pearl Jam, I:

    Can't do any of those things now.


    Damn this getting older shit. PJ Brings it much harder than I could, but the days of Eddie climbing the rafters, and jumping into the crowd are pretty much over.


    holy crap! you were busy! ;)

    34? wait 'til you hit 45! :D
  • WeBelongTogetherWeBelongTogether Posts: 340
    JWBusher wrote:
    My only complaint is that they don't rehearse enough anymore. The 2008 tour was a sloppy mess.

    LOL. give me a break.
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  • Mrs.Vedder78Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    jaamfaan wrote:

    I know I dont move like I did 15 years ago.

    Shit I know for sure I dont move like I did 15 years ago and if I did my husband probably wouldnt let me leave the house - LOL

    EDIT: I still have pretty good moves though (just not like I did when I was 16 ;))
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  • Mrs.Vedder78Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    JWBusher wrote:
    My only complaint is that they don't rehearse enough anymore. The 2008 tour was a sloppy mess.

    :confused:
    "Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
  • HopperHopper Posts: 213
    Va Beach...during RITFW i think....Eddie..runs....Eddie plants on a speaker....springs off of it...and reaches for a tambourine being thrown like a frisbee..he was flying through the air....the throw was leading him to what looked to be a miss...but at the last second..just like LEZAK...Ed stretches his hand out and ...ALAS!!!!...he snatches it and proceeds to beat the shit out of the tambourine with great madness and skills!!!


    i thought they were on fire this tour...saw them in Tampa...Va Beach...DC...
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Are you serious? Only 34? Did you have an accident? I turn 30 in less than two months and I'm in better shape now than I was in my early 20s.


    Yup, got married and had two kids. lol.

    My lifestyle has just changed. I need constant exercise to be in shape, and with the job and wife and kids, I don't have any time for that.

    Sure it is somewhat of an excuse, but I don't have the desire either.

    AND when I'm 45 I'll probably be half in the grave.

    I jest a bit, and with work I could be in great shape, but I'm never jumping off anything ever again.

    I do have plans to hike to the top of Kilimanjaro. Even had the wife sign off on my trip in 2007, but my daughter was born in Dec 2006 and those plans were scrapped.

    Hopefully will still happen.

    Nate
  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    Dude both MSG's Ed and the band were going nuts.
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  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    I didn't say the '08 shows sucked or weren't good shows. I'm just saying that they were very rusty on this tour. Train wrecks all over the place. People don't seem to be noticing and that's fine. Every show has it's faults. I just wish they would practice more. It isn't like their music is super-complicated...they're not playing Frank Zappa compositions.
  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    Stage dive?! you want Someone to break a hip?! :D

    seriously though,the boys still put out MAD ENERGY!!!

    the energizer bunny don't have shit on Mr.McCready!
  • evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    Wilds wrote:
    Let's see between 1991 and 1995 I:

    Jumped out of an airplane
    Jumped off of bridges as high as 60 feet (EDIT: Into Water)
    Jumped off of cliffs on ski's with the highest jump being about 30 feet
    Climbed everything in site, including to the Base Camp of Mt. Everest (EDIT: Did this in 2001)
    Played Soccer, Wrestled, and other sports


    Now at age 34, much younger than the members of Pearl Jam, I:

    Can't do any of those things now.


    Damn this getting older shit. PJ Brings it much harder than I could, but the days of Eddie climbing the rafters, and jumping into the crowd are pretty much over.

    I didn't know Bill Brasky was on the PJ message board. :-D
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  • Child Of The 90sChild Of The 90s Posts: 526
    evenflow82 wrote:
    I didn't know Bill Brasky was on the PJ message board. :-D

    bahhahaha... "Bill Brasky's a Sonofabitch!"
  • Child Of The 90sChild Of The 90s Posts: 526
    Plokoon111 wrote:
    When ever I see them live on you tube or for real, they're always laid back, and when you compare it to the 1991-1994 live videos they ust to jump around, stage dive, go crazy. Now they just stand and play.

    Hyper....have you seen Mike lately? He acts like a 10 year old on speed!
  • SpencerSpencer Posts: 867
    JWBusher wrote:
    I didn't say the '08 shows sucked or weren't good shows. I'm just saying that they were very rusty on this tour. Train wrecks all over the place. People don't seem to be noticing and that's fine. Every show has it's faults. I just wish they would practice more. It isn't like their music is super-complicated...they're not playing Frank Zappa compositions.

    I've definitely noticed it - it's certainly their sloppiest tour ever.

    Too bad it was just a short tour, the tour was over as soon as they were starting to sound a little better.

    I didn't think much of the first US leg in 2006 either but they improved greatly by the West Coast shows, it's hard to know if it would've been the same this time around though.

    The root of the problem is that nobody seems to notice if they completely screw up or not and they know it, so what's their motivation to rehearse?

    It blows me away that anyone can listen to this year's boots and say they're playing at the same level as even 2003 or 2006, there's no explanation other than blind ignorance. 2008 should've been called The Emperor's New Clothes Tour...
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,087
    man they've grown up, are great musicians,

    and also have you seen IIC?
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,087
    This last tour sounds great to me, obviosuly havent been but the boots blow me away.

    sure if you analyse them like a tit might, you might find the odd mistake, but for the most part it seems to me like they were bang on form. In fact they almost sound really into it but in a relaxed comfortable way, like they are really enjoying it....

    sloppyness? whatever
  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Today, instead of being awesome, the boys spend their weekends watching Teletubbies and ghey shit like that....having a nice little Saturday at Home Depot, maybe Bed Bath & Beyond (if there's enough time).
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  • Smellyman2Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    Ed actually stopped being hyper in 93' , every once in a while would go nuts, but he is actually more energetic now.
  • GOSSArDgEEKGOSSArDgEEK Posts: 245
    JWBusher wrote:
    My only complaint is that they don't rehearse enough anymore. The 2008 tour was a sloppy mess.
    It was a short tour, they have kids now, there're all tried. There was probably lots of bottle drinking, crying and screaming and that was just the band themselves.
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    What’s self destruction and how can we last?

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  • Big EdBig Ed Posts: 331
    When I was 23 I could go all night......now I get winded wiping my ass.
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  • blueeyedevilblueeyedevil Posts: 173
    spencer wrote:

    It blows me away that anyone can listen to this year's boots and say they're playing at the same level as even 2003 or 2006, there's no explanation other than blind ignorance. 2008 should've been called The Emperor's New Clothes Tour...

    1) We have people who still consider the old "Soldiers' Field" boot to be a classic. Once everyone lets go of THAT, then I'll reconsider the quality of the 2008 tour.

    2) I saw three shows on this tour, and 2 out of three are up there with my favorites.

    3) '03 and '06, with a few exceptions weren't really any better than '08. Shit, Mansfield III form '03 is regarded as the "be alll - end all" by MANY people, and it's sloppy as hell! Great setlist, great concept, but sloppy.

    4) For a short tour, the band was as tight as it was going to get. The band seemed to really enjoy themselves, as did the fans.
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