Linking PJ to it? they are giving away radio stations PJ tkts (all radio stations have them) ... a radio station tkt giveaway in no way links the band (any band) to the terms of their contest...
and guess what? when you are handicapped and on a wheelchair when radio stations give tkts away you dont have a chance either, well you do but then what the heck do you do with mid-row tkts on a wheelchair?
Men have always categorize girls deciphering "hot or not"!!!
And the truth is, that if you are talking about appearances there are girls that are hot and there are girls that are definately NOT!
I think you are overreacting! :rolleyes:
i figured someone would say that. and i doubt anyone in a wheelchair will even win this. it will most likely be the girl who looks the least handicapped. its an unfair advantage for some. (thats just what i think) but the whole contest is wrong on many, many levels. i agree with King47 when he says:
I feel that this is far too "touchy" of a subject for a radio station to deem weather a person is "hot" or not - or- "handicapped" or not. For the lucky one that does receive the tickets congrats, but I feel sorry for the ones that now may feel inadequate in their looks in addition to any pre-existing condition.
"The love received is the love that is saved." -E.Vedder
No one's mentioned the blatant sexism of the contest yet? :rolleyes:
do you call or write to bitch about every contest were only hot girls are eligible?
What surprises me here is that this only has gotten a rise outta you guys because there are peal jam tkts involved....
I don't see that many threads on the Moving Train about all the sexist contests radio stations have on the daily basis......
So I guess the question really is is this bothering all of you guys because of the sexist, discriminatory nature of it OR is this really bothering you because PJ tkts are involved?
Let say this..... since I have somewhat changed my mind after seeing these people's myspace...
I dont think the contest has a discriminatory nature, BUT seeing the type of show these guys run and the clips they have on their page I'm expecting for them to try and humiliate the people that participate (now shame on the participants as well if they want to subject themselves to that) in this contest.... if their whole purpose is have a morning show having a laugh at the participants that would be pretty sad and mean... (i'm only assuming though that's what they are doing) ....
So depending on their intentions I would say this is a pretty shitty contest NOT BECAUSE they are offering tkts to handicapped because now seeing the nature of the show, no matter who'd yhey offer the tkts to it seems like they would make fun of anyone regardless....
BUT the one thing I haven't changed my mind on is TO HAVE A CONTEST LIKE THIS YOU ALSO NEED PARTICIPANTS WILLING TO DO IT!
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My guess is that since 10c has all the good seats, that local radio stations couldn't get their hands on anything but the handicap reserved spots on he back/side of the floor.
do you call or write to bitch about every contest were only hot girls are eligible?
What surprises me here is that this only has gotten a rise outta you guys because there are peal jam tkts involved....
I don't see that many threads on the Moving Train about all the sexist contests radio stations have on the daily basis......
So I guess the question really is is this bothering all of you guys because of the sexist, discriminatory nature of it OR is this really bothering you because PJ tkts are involved?
Let say this..... since I have somewhat changed my mind after seeing these people's myspace...
I dont think the contest has a discriminatory nature, BUT seeing the type of show these guys run and the clips they have on their page I'm expecting for them to try and humiliate the people that participate (now shame on the participants as well if they want to subject themselves to that) in this contest.... if their whole purpose is have a morning show having a laugh at the participants that would be pretty sad and mean... (i'm only assuming though that's what they are doing) ....
So depending on their intentions I would say this is a pretty shitty contest NOT BECAUSE they are offering tkts to handicapped because now seeing the nature of the show, no matter who'd yhey offer the tkts to it seems like they would make fun of anyone regardless....
BUT the one thing I haven't changed my mind on is TO HAVE A CONTEST LIKE THIS YOU ALSO NEED PARTICIPANTS WILLING TO DO IT!
Um... my post was tongue in cheek.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
Not sure if its been said yet but the radio station is clearly making fun of PJ for all of the causes they donate money to. They're giving away tickets to handicapped chicks as if its something PJ would do for a cause. personally I think its fucked up and I hope someone from10C contacts them.
I guess I don't pay attention to Howard Stern- to know if this is something he would do-
but I agree that to ask attractive girls to send their pictures into the radio station for a couple knuckle draggers to drool over , seems self serving and not a stunt that is going to win them points with the band.
do you call or write to bitch about every contest were only hot girls are eligible?
What surprises me here is that this only has gotten a rise outta you guys because there are peal jam tkts involved....
I don't see that many threads on the Moving Train about all the sexist contests radio stations have on the daily basis......
So I guess the question really is is this bothering all of you guys because of the sexist, discriminatory nature of it OR is this really bothering you because PJ tkts are involved?
Let say this..... since I have somewhat changed my mind after seeing these people's myspace...
I dont think the contest has a discriminatory nature, BUT seeing the type of show these guys run and the clips they have on their page I'm expecting for them to try and humiliate the people that participate (now shame on the participants as well if they want to subject themselves to that) in this contest.... if their whole purpose is have a morning show having a laugh at the participants that would be pretty sad and mean... (i'm only assuming though that's what they are doing) ....
So depending on their intentions I would say this is a pretty shitty contest NOT BECAUSE they are offering tkts to handicapped because now seeing the nature of the show, no matter who'd yhey offer the tkts to it seems like they would make fun of anyone regardless....
BUT the one thing I haven't changed my mind on is TO HAVE A CONTEST LIKE THIS YOU ALSO NEED PARTICIPANTS WILLING TO DO IT!
This is not a hot or not site, it is a Pearl Jam site, so anything pretaining to PJ is relevant. If someone took the time to bitch about all the sexist bullshit on the web then fine, but as long as they are not using Pearl jam to promote then it would not an issue for the Pearl Jam message Pit....?
My panties aren't in a bunch. I'm just offering my opinion. I think it's wrong, but I'm certainly not overly concerned about it. Plus, it's in uhhh...the South, so who even gives a shit
Since the panties aren't in a bunch maybe you could enter... if ignorance is a "handicap":D, why must we battle over this north south thing when we should be trying to eliminate differences and unite. I think that a huge problem Americans are now facing is the fact that no one really sems to be "overly concerned" about much of anything. But I am now getting off the original pont and my soapbox... maybe I can find a thread about posters.. or more seriously, one about people excited about Pearl Jam's summer tour!!!! Kepp on Rockin' be it North, South, East, West and all points in between!
I whole heartedly support the absolute right of every person to be an ass in whatever manner suits him/her best. That doesn’t mean that I need to be OK with every dumb ass thing done by every dumb ass out there.
Yeah, we’re all going to categorize every one we see rich/poor, hot/fugly but most of us don’t go around giving lollipops only to the cute ones. We, as a society, would be a lot healthier if we would stop letting it be OK to hand out free passes –for the beautiful only. Pretty damned sure the band would be against it.
Maybe they can give tickets to some 9 yr old (hell, anyone) who manages to brush his teeth after every meal for a week.
My guess is that since 10c has all the good seats, that local radio stations couldn't get their hands on anything but the handicap reserved spots on he back/side of the floor.
...thus, the contest.
just a guess.
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Greenville's local radio station is holding a contest for free PJ tickets to the Columbia show. See the link above for the "official" advertisement where they promote the contest next to a picture of Pearl Jam, as if this were somehow approved by the band. Here are the rules from the Myspace Bulletin board:
""WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE HOTTEST HANDICAPPED GIRL
In the latest installment of our HOTTEST contests, we have announced our latest - THE HOTTEST HANDICAPPED GIRL! Are you handicapped? Do you think you're hot? Then we want you! And if you win you'll get tickets to see PEARL JAM on June 16th in Columbia. If you want to participate and can be in studio on Friday JUNE 14th, please email us your name, a current photo, your handicap, and your daytime number to TheRiseGuys@aol.com ASAP!
Tickle it guys!
Skip & Matt""
>>>>I think this is so wrong in so many ways, and this doesn't seem to me like a message Pearl Jam would want to be associated with. What gives these guys the right to tie PJ to such a superficial and discriminating contest? Shame on THE RISE GUYS!
they're southerners. it's not their fault they don't know any better.
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Even if the radio station doesn't intend it to be a joke (which I would find hard to believe) many people find making fun of handicapped people funny. That's sad. We're not talking about a person with a broken leg. We are talking about physically and/or mentally handicapped people who are born this way. Having a handicapped brother, I have been to many events & a lot of those girls want nothing more than for someone to think they are pretty & special. The way they would perceive this contest if they entered it would be MUCH different than the ignorant people who watch it. (and make fun of it).
Listen to Howard Stern. Whoever thinks his bits making fun of the handicapped people have no idea what it is like to see someone making fun of someone else who has the same problems as a very important person in your life that can't do anything to change the way they are.
Sorry to rant, this is a very sensitive subject with me... some of the comments on this thread make me sad. I'm sure pearl jam has no idea of the contest.
BTW - my brother took home 2 gold medals & 1 silver. Couldn't be prouder!
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Even if the radio station doesn't intend it to be a joke (which I would find hard to believe) many people find making fun of handicapped people funny. That's sad. We're not talking about a person with a broken leg. We are talking about physically and/or mentally handicapped people who are born this way. Having a handicapped brother, I have been to many events & a lot of those girls want nothing more than for someone to think they are pretty & special. The way they would perceive this contest if they entered it would be MUCH different than the ignorant people who watch it. (and make fun of it).
Listen to Howard Stern. Whoever thinks his bits making fun of the handicapped people have no idea what it is like to see someone making fun of someone else who has the same problems as a very important person in your life that can't do anything to change the way they are.
Sorry to rant, this is a very sensitive subject with me... some of the comments on this thread make me sad. I'm sure pearl jam has no idea of the contest.
BTW - my brother took home 2 gold medals & 1 silver. Couldn't be prouder!
Good for your bro! That rules!
and you are totally right... people just never get it unless they experience it first hand
Even if the radio station doesn't intend it to be a joke (which I would find hard to believe) many people find making fun of handicapped people funny. That's sad. We're not talking about a person with a broken leg. We are talking about physically and/or mentally handicapped people who are born this way. Having a handicapped brother, I have been to many events & a lot of those girls want nothing more than for someone to think they are pretty & special. The way they would perceive this contest if they entered it would be MUCH different than the ignorant people who watch it. (and make fun of it).
Listen to Howard Stern. Whoever thinks his bits making fun of the handicapped people have no idea what it is like to see someone making fun of someone else who has the same problems as a very important person in your life that can't do anything to change the way they are.
Sorry to rant, this is a very sensitive subject with me... some of the comments on this thread make me sad. I'm sure pearl jam has no idea of the contest.
BTW - my brother took home 2 gold medals & 1 silver. Couldn't be prouder!
i got to experience being a wheelchair for two hours during a disabled people and the law seminar. we had to go all over the campus i was at to see what it was really like to be try to use "wheelchair accessible" stuff on campus (you'd be amazed how much of a bitch some stuff is. it was hard to get around. i was tired. people treated us like we were aliens.) needless to say it was something i will never forget and really changed my perception how easy it really is for those of us who don't have to use them.
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i figured someone would say that. and i doubt anyone in a wheelchair will even win this. it will most likely be the girl who looks the least handicapped. its an unfair advantage for some. (thats just what i think) but the whole contest is wrong on many, many levels. i agree with King47 when he says:
do you call or write to bitch about every contest were only hot girls are eligible?
What surprises me here is that this only has gotten a rise outta you guys because there are peal jam tkts involved....
I don't see that many threads on the Moving Train about all the sexist contests radio stations have on the daily basis......
So I guess the question really is is this bothering all of you guys because of the sexist, discriminatory nature of it OR is this really bothering you because PJ tkts are involved?
Let say this..... since I have somewhat changed my mind after seeing these people's myspace...
I dont think the contest has a discriminatory nature, BUT seeing the type of show these guys run and the clips they have on their page I'm expecting for them to try and humiliate the people that participate (now shame on the participants as well if they want to subject themselves to that) in this contest.... if their whole purpose is have a morning show having a laugh at the participants that would be pretty sad and mean... (i'm only assuming though that's what they are doing) ....
So depending on their intentions I would say this is a pretty shitty contest NOT BECAUSE they are offering tkts to handicapped because now seeing the nature of the show, no matter who'd yhey offer the tkts to it seems like they would make fun of anyone regardless....
BUT the one thing I haven't changed my mind on is TO HAVE A CONTEST LIKE THIS YOU ALSO NEED PARTICIPANTS WILLING TO DO IT!
...thus, the contest.
just a guess.
Um... my post was tongue in cheek.
8/7/08, 6/9/09
but I agree that to ask attractive girls to send their pictures into the radio station for a couple knuckle draggers to drool over , seems self serving and not a stunt that is going to win them points with the band.
they go for the cheap laugh I see
-Gandhi
I eagerly await the "Driest Joke" competition that the station's running next.
Yeah, we’re all going to categorize every one we see rich/poor, hot/fugly but most of us don’t go around giving lollipops only to the cute ones. We, as a society, would be a lot healthier if we would stop letting it be OK to hand out free passes –for the beautiful only. Pretty damned sure the band would be against it.
Maybe they can give tickets to some 9 yr old (hell, anyone) who manages to brush his teeth after every meal for a week.
NEXT WEEK! AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
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they're southerners. it's not their fault they don't know any better.
they'll get a 1 off Sleater Kinney appearance and they will perform " Leaving Here " 28 times in a row
That it ain't no sin to be glad you're alive
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http://www.UNOS.org
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Mildly Offensive Stereotyping: Humour to make you Hee-Haw! :rolleyes:
i know. but it's funny anyway. it's just so easy. kind of like making fun of the welsh.
but really i do love the south and southerners (and i'm probably going to end up marrying one). i've spent quite a bit of time out there.
Oh god...
8/7/08, 6/9/09
Revised ... "play the south thread..."
I guess this answers lots of questions...
M
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Listen to Howard Stern. Whoever thinks his bits making fun of the handicapped people have no idea what it is like to see someone making fun of someone else who has the same problems as a very important person in your life that can't do anything to change the way they are.
Sorry to rant, this is a very sensitive subject with me... some of the comments on this thread make me sad. I'm sure pearl jam has no idea of the contest.
BTW - my brother took home 2 gold medals & 1 silver. Couldn't be prouder!
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Good for your bro! That rules!
and you are totally right... people just never get it unless they experience it first hand
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i got to experience being a wheelchair for two hours during a disabled people and the law seminar. we had to go all over the campus i was at to see what it was really like to be try to use "wheelchair accessible" stuff on campus (you'd be amazed how much of a bitch some stuff is. it was hard to get around. i was tired. people treated us like we were aliens.) needless to say it was something i will never forget and really changed my perception how easy it really is for those of us who don't have to use them.