Happy 9-11

FiveB247x
FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
edited September 2011 in A Moving Train
Since we love nothing but remembering 9-11 as an anniversary and anything more than a patriotic fervor, I wish everyone a happy 9-11. Yeah I'm an asshole, but atleast I recognize the meaning of such actions, which our nation and government seemed to long forget. We use it nothing more than a political tool and fear mongering mechanism. Keep watching the terror alerts and waving the flags, it means so much and really works to fix the future and world around us.

“Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it.” - William Shakespeare

http://political-illusions.blogspot.com/2008/09/bells-and-whistles_11.html

http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-would-rather-think-about-911-than-anything,21309/
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  • stipe19
    stipe19 Posts: 237
    I HOPE YOU --- ON 9-11-11
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Since we love nothing but remembering 9-11 as an anniversary and anything more than a patriotic fervor, I wish everyone a happy 9-11. Yeah I'm an asshole, but atleast I recognize the meaning of such actions, which our nation and government seemed to long forget. We use it nothing more than a political tool and fear mongering mechanism. Keep watching the terror alerts and waving the flags, it means so much and really works to fix the future and world around us.

    “Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it.” - William Shakespeare

    http://political-illusions.blogspot.com/2008/09/bells-and-whistles_11.html

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-would-rather-think-about-911-than-anything,21309/

    I think you have to separate the government from the people who actually suffered alot from this. I'm sure the kids who lost their parents in 9-11 don't look at it with patriotic fervor but more like the saddest day in their lives.
  • conman
    conman Posts: 7,493
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Yeah I'm an asshole
  • IrishGuy
    IrishGuy Posts: 258
    FiveB247x wrote:
    “Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it.” - William Shakespeare
    Actually it was George Bernard Shaw that said that.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    you seem to be the one whinning.

    Godfather.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,892
    conman wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Yeah I'm an asshole

    +1
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    I do recall the feeling of togetherness after 9/11 for awhile, among many Americans. I never thought of it as Patriotism though. I thought of it as a sadness that brought us together. Every year I think about it on the anniversary, and I feel sad that I wish it could've been avoided and those 3000+ people should not have suffered like they did.

    More often than not, I think it is a HOMAGE.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    good lord :roll:

    actually had to bust out the "rolling eyes" for the first time.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    9-11 makes me think how we lost our minds and killed one million in retaliation for killing 3000........by 19 mostly saudis....
  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Smellyman wrote:
    9-11 makes me think how we lost our minds and killed one million in retaliation for killing 3000........by 19 mostly saudis....


    ...Not sure where you got the one million. I thought it was closer to one billion.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    ohhh fuck meee ! here we go another thread about how bad and mean the USA is....blah blah whaaaaaa !
    what a bunch of stupid ass bullshit...more wasted forum space....my last post on this bullshit thread.

    Godfather.
  • DragonsAfter3or4
    DragonsAfter3or4 Bluegrass Posts: 349
    Godfather. wrote:
    ohhh fuck meee ! here we go another thread about how bad and mean the USA is....blah blah whaaaaaa !
    what a bunch of stupid ass bullshit...more wasted forum space....my last post on this bullshit thread.

    Godfather.

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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Could be true, but it doesn't make me any less right - just means I'm stating the cold harsh reality of how our society has acted since these events. We're not altruistic, we're uncaring in our actions... but let's all have a ceremony cause it means so much? I call bs.
    conman wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Yeah I'm an asshole
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Could be true, but it doesn't make me any less right - just means I'm stating the cold harsh reality of how our society has acted since these events. We're not altruistic, we're uncaring in our actions... but let's all have a ceremony cause it means so much? I call bs.
    conman wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Yeah I'm an asshole


    When you say We, do you mean our Government, Military and News Media? because I don't have any control over them. I do care.
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Everyone attempts to separate themselves individually from the government, military and media and/or corporate america. The reality is these things exist because of all of us - we the citizens enable all their existence and actions and could fix and change all of them to act how we please, but we do not. We buy products, we pay our taxes, we participate in the society which produces the media and the fear and consumer culture. To attempt to pass off the actions and effects of these things solely on them and not take any responsibility and accountability in the matter is simply pathetic - which is what our society and culture is.
    BinauralJam wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Could be true, but it doesn't make me any less right - just means I'm stating the cold harsh reality of how our society has acted since these events. We're not altruistic, we're uncaring in our actions... but let's all have a ceremony cause it means so much? I call bs.

    When you say We, do you mean our Government, Military and News Media? because I don't have any control over them. I do care.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    What do you suggest?
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    It's not very complicated - our nation and government was created to function in a very specific way - participation and representation. The citizens don't pay attention or participate which has led the representation to be sold off to big business and self-interest. That's the foundation of where our nation has strayed down a different path which is filled with private and self-interest and greed. And sadly, as this has occurred, our citizens have followed in line by pursuing the same achievements and holding them up as legitimate goals in life.
    BinauralJam wrote:
    What do you suggest?
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,814
    FiveB247x wrote:
    It's not very complicated - our nation and government was created to function in a very specific way - participation and representation. The citizens don't pay attention or participate which has led the representation to be sold off to big business and self-interest. That's the foundation of where our nation has strayed down a different path which is filled with private and self-interest and greed. And sadly, as this has occurred, our citizens have followed in line by pursuing the same achievements and holding them up as legitimate goals in life.
    BinauralJam wrote:
    What do you suggest?
    Seems that way to me too.
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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    FiveB247x wrote:
    It's not very complicated - our nation and government was created to function in a very specific way - participation and representation. The citizens don't pay attention or participate which has led the representation to be sold off to big business and self-interest. That's the foundation of where our nation has strayed down a different path which is filled with private and self-interest and greed. And sadly, as this has occurred, our citizens have followed in line by pursuing the same achievements and holding them up as legitimate goals in life.
    BinauralJam wrote:
    What do you suggest?


    Sounds good, we could be a Democracy instead of a Republic. I'd Love that, but in the mean time i'm not going to feel bad for going with the flow, i like having something to eat every day and shelter and attending Pearl Jam concerts, i'm selfish like that.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited September 2011
    September 11th is a solemn anniversary for me. I am not going to 'Celebrate' it, rather, 'Observe' for the losses that came about as a result. With one of the greatest losses being the feeling of unity we all had, as a nation, as Americans, that day and the weeks to follow. We have allowed political bickering to divide us, so shortly after those horrible attacks. We were once Americans... we are now Liberal/Conservative, Republican/Democrat, Red/Blue... and we have only ourselves to blames. Those terrorist murderers brought us together... we divided ourselves by our own hands.
    ...
    Personally, i don't care how anyone chooses to remember or celebrate or reflect upon September 11th. This is still America and we are free to choose... regardless of what others may feel about it.
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