Chris Cornell stole the show this weekend.

StrykerStryker Upstate, NY Posts: 585
edited September 2011 in Given To Fly (live)
In my opinion.

Without the TotD mini sets, the main sets would not be as memorable. Solid sets for sure, but not exceptional.

And as great as the TotD sets were, and as awesome as Chris sounded with the band, it was kind of weird that he got so much stage time this weekend.

What are your thoughts.
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  • he ruined it for me
  • don't quite get it myself....very suprised with the shows..more like let down

    don't get me wrong..very solid shows...but i was expectting abit more
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • don't quite get it myself....very suprised with the shows..more like let down

    don't get me wrong..very solid shows...but i was expectting abit more

    What exactly was everyone expecting??? :?
  • Pry ToPry To Posts: 285
    I think a lot of people were expecting a Philly 4, but with maybe an extra hour acoustic set on top of it. (Of course, there were a bunch of people bitching about how they played "Bugs" at that show instead of something else, blah blah blah.) I sincerely hope PJ doesn't read most of the remarks made about these shows. How embarrassing for us fellow fans. I have no problem with constructive criticism, but telling a band what they should and should not play? Especially a band like this, which mixes up the setlists. Ah well.
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  • joely_91 wrote:
    don't quite get it myself....very suprised with the shows..more like let down

    don't get me wrong..very solid shows...but i was expectting abit more

    What exactly was everyone expecting??? :?


    def. a small accoustic set earlirer in the day or sometime

    i'm not sure..but it wasn't what i thought it would be..overall
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    I love Chris Cornell... I love ToTD... I didn't love them repeating the longest ToTD song tonight...

    I think 3 songs last night (MLB+2 ToTD) and 3 tonight (maybe repeat hunger strike and two differnet ToTD songs) would've been better. When they announced Reach Down again tonight I wanted Chris to get off the stage (and I LOVE Chris!).

    I guess when you have limited time to play, you want to make the most of it... I can only imagine what got left on the setlist (and not played) in order to repeat Reach Down tonight.
  • I'd trade a LEASH and RATS for a REACH DOWN any day!


    Tonight was great and combine both nights for a really good weekend.

    I just can't understand no LEASH,GO,RATS,W.M.A. WTF?

    Can't call a festival a festival without LEASH!
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    drsluggo wrote:
    I can only imagine what got left on the setlist (and not played) in order to repeat Reach Down tonight.
    probably bout 3 songs lol
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    i would trade any TOFTD songs for sleight of hand. just saying...
  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    metsfan wrote:
    drsluggo wrote:
    I can only imagine what got left on the setlist (and not played) in order to repeat Reach Down tonight.
    probably bout 3 songs lol
    I thought legitimately it couldve been two PJ songs.. instead of a repeat of Reach Down.

    That's my biggest complaint - at least repeating Hunger Strike is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE crowd fav... repeating Reach Down is like repeating a very, very, very long obscure b-side two nights in a row. :x
  • First, let me state that I was envious of people who got to attend. However, I think that the way this would have all worked out and left people stunned and positive would have been to truly showcase the Then and Now of Pearl Jam.

    For instance, if Pearl Jam started showcasing their roots (the Andy ties, TotD, Dave A., Jack, etc.) then I think people would have had their wildest expections met for the most part. When huge important chunks of PJ history were omitted from PJ20 while other parts like Chris Cornell got such a large portion of time that was also partitioned out to many others who were not really related to PJ history, I can understand some of the letdown.

    I still had fun seeing what I did of the concert and thought there were some pretty fine performances. I would have loved to have personally been there for TotD, and I would have loved it even more to see PJ bury the hatchet on their 20th with Dave, etc. Oh well, it was what it was, and that is still pretty amazing.
  • StrykerStryker Upstate, NY Posts: 585
    I don't know, I really thought they'd bust out something like Dirty Frank or Alone. But even less rare songs like Off He Goes, Rival, Force of Nature, I Got Shit, Around the Bend and Low Light didn't get played. And I very fully excepted either a "Man" Trilogy or Mamasan Trilogy. And yeah, the repeat TotD songs were kind of bogus. There should have been zero repeats on the weekend.

    Also, I would have loved to see some guest drummers. I knew going in that that would be a long shot, but their absence was disappointing nonetheless.

    Oh well, I'm looking at these two shows as a warm up for the Canadian tour. I have a really good vibe about the Canadian tour for some reason.
  • Hardly.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,787
    I thought it deflated the show tonight for sure. Too much.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    drsluggo wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    drsluggo wrote:
    I can only imagine what got left on the setlist (and not played) in order to repeat Reach Down tonight.
    probably bout 3 songs lol
    I thought legitimately it couldve been two PJ songs.. instead of a repeat of Reach Down.

    That's my biggest complaint - at least repeating Hunger Strike is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE crowd fav... repeating Reach Down is like repeating a very, very, very long obscure b-side two nights in a row. :x
    or at least played times of trouble, wooden jesus and crown of thorns with cornell on backing vocals. 2 TOTD songs into crown of thorns woulda been fitting.
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  • joely_91 wrote:
    don't quite get it myself....very suprised with the shows..more like let down

    don't get me wrong..very solid shows...but i was expectting abit more

    What exactly was everyone expecting??? :?

    Kurt Cobain to come back from the dead and sing a duet with Tupac, apparently. :roll:
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  • I'd trade a LEASH and RATS for a REACH DOWN any day!

    Yeah, screw that.

    In part because I've seen Leash like 3,000 times now. In part because Reach Down is by far a superior song to either of them.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Stryker wrote:
    Oh well, I'm looking at these two shows as a warm up for the Canadian tour. I have a really good vibe about the Canadian tour for some reason.

    I don't mean this to be mean, but I feel sorry for Canadians and South Americans. Your shows are going to suck by comparison. There's nowhere to go but down.

    No matter how long I live, what happened this weekend in Wisconsin with 37,000 of my closest friends will be an experience I'll never forget. No other show(s) I've been to can compare.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • StrykerStryker Upstate, NY Posts: 585
    Stryker wrote:
    Oh well, I'm looking at these two shows as a warm up for the Canadian tour. I have a really good vibe about the Canadian tour for some reason.

    I don't mean this to be mean, but I feel sorry for Canadians and South Americans. Your shows are going to suck by comparison. There's nowhere to go but down.

    No matter how long I live, what happened this weekend in Wisconsin with 37,000 of my closest friends will be an experience I'll never forget. No other show(s) I've been to can compare.

    You must not have been at Philly III and IV. Because those were better shows. By far.
  • I'd trade a LEASH and RATS for a REACH DOWN any day!

    Yeah, screw that.

    In part because I've seen Leash like 3,000 times now. In part because Reach Down is by far a superior song to either of them.


    You making my trades now?

    I said I would trade...you can have Reach Down but I want Leash, Footsteps, Rival, Fatal, Go and Rats now...and I'll throw Say Hello to Heaven back too.

    I haven't seen LEASH live since 1994 in 20+ shows...weird curse I got I guess?
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    Can you see me now
    I am myself
    Like you somehow
    I'll ride the wave
    Where it takes me
    I'll hold the pain
    Release me
  • Stryker wrote:
    Stryker wrote:
    Oh well, I'm looking at these two shows as a warm up for the Canadian tour. I have a really good vibe about the Canadian tour for some reason.

    I don't mean this to be mean, but I feel sorry for Canadians and South Americans. Your shows are going to suck by comparison. There's nowhere to go but down.

    No matter how long I live, what happened this weekend in Wisconsin with 37,000 of my closest friends will be an experience I'll never forget. No other show(s) I've been to can compare.

    You must not have been at Philly III and IV. Because those were better shows. By far.

    You got me. I haven't been to every single fucking show these guys have played. :roll:
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • I'd trade a LEASH and RATS for a REACH DOWN any day!

    Yeah, screw that.

    In part because I've seen Leash like 3,000 times now. In part because Reach Down is by far a superior song to either of them.


    You making my trades now?

    I said I would trade...you can have Reach Down but I want Leash, Footsteps, Rival, Fatal, Go and Rats now...and I'll throw Say Hello to Heaven back too.

    I haven't seen LEASH live since 1994 in 20+ shows...weird curse I got I guess?

    I went so long wanting to hear Leash. Then from 2006-2009 they started playing it at like every single show. I had one buddy start touring with me in '06, and he thought Leash was a staple, like Evenflow. It was actually kind of funny.

    I'm kind of over Leash now. I still like it, but there are better songs for me.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,947
    Temple made these shows! (for me)

    Some of the other collaborations were really cool, others were just wrong (Julian didnt fit on either song he joined PJ for), but the TOTD stuff was amazing! Never thought I'd see it. Chris' voice is in top shape. Unfortunately, it magnified a lot of the PJ blunders. Their play was sloppy for sure, but expected when they haven't played together in so long and open a tour with such a big event.

    the other highlight for me (besides seeing longtime friends, TOTD and Wash) was the PJ museum. they really did an amazing job with it. I took a lot of pictures with the description cards so people who couldn't make it get to see it. if you're a PJ nerd from day one it was a real treat. my only complaint would be the long line, but I dont see any way around it with such limited space, so it's not really a complaint.

    thank you to the band for such an amazing weekend. lots of pictures and some videos to follow...
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  • SuziemaySuziemay Posts: 11,168
    Stryker wrote:
    In my opinion.

    Without the TotD mini sets, the main sets would not be as memorable. Solid sets for sure, but not exceptional.

    And as great as the TotD sets were, and as awesome as Chris sounded with the band, it was kind of weird that he got so much stage time this weekend.

    What are your thoughts.

    Respectfully disagree. I was happy they had a TotD set, but wish Chris also did a Pearl Jam song too and got into the fun the way the rest of the guests did. I didn't like that the focus was on him for that long (yeah, I know TotD was Chris' thing) but relegating Ed as a backup singer during PJ20 was the strangest part of the weekend for me, by far. Chris' energy is so different from the rest of the band, he always seems slightly uncomfortable and self-conscious, while everyone else is just so excited they can barely contain themselves. I thought he was warmer today than yesterday, but still very different from the band. Don't get me wrong, love Chris Cornell, he just has a totally different vibe.

    To me, what was memorable was that I was there to celebrate a huge milestone with the band that I love most along with others who felt the same way. I am so proud of the band for sticking together for so long and sensing their love for each other. I'm always so struck by how real they are when I see them.
  • tschavtschav Posts: 2,882
    He didn't steal the show, just offset the flow of it all. The TOTD stuff was cool for a song or two, but even if it was traded for less exciting PJ song time I would've preferred it.

    But in the true spirit of this weekend, it was supposed to be collaborative (the "last waltz" vibe they mentioned), so having some hit-or-miss experiments/plans were to be expected. Cornell just happened to take valuable Vedder time from me, but I'd lie if I said I could do completely without the TOTD stuff.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Cornell can't steal a show... he might be able to steal highly priced designer jeans for you... but he can't steal a PJ show.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Stryker wrote:
    I don't mean this to be mean, but I feel sorry for Canadians and South Americans. Your shows are going to suck by comparison. There's nowhere to go but down.

    No matter how long I live, what happened this weekend in Wisconsin with 37,000 of my closest friends will be an experience I'll never forget. No other show(s) I've been to can compare.

    You must not have been at Philly III and IV. Because those were better shows. By far.

    You got me. I haven't been to every single fucking show these guys have played. :roll:

    as you have said, you havent been to every show... ergo its impossible for you to say that the only way is down and that you feel sorry for Canadians and South Americans as the show you have just seen can't be beaten in your mind

    What about just saying its the best show you've seen and that you hope they carry that enthusiasm through to the next tours as then they would be epic... instead of suggesting that somehow the Canadian and South American tours will 'suck'
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,066
    Stryker wrote:
    Oh well, I'm looking at these two shows as a warm up for the Canadian tour. I have a really good vibe about the Canadian tour for some reason.

    I don't mean this to be mean, but I feel sorry for Canadians and South Americans. Your shows are going to suck by comparison. There's nowhere to go but down.

    No matter how long I live, what happened this weekend in Wisconsin with 37,000 of my closest friends will be an experience I'll never forget. No other show(s) I've been to can compare.

    In a weekend full of douchey comments, this one might take the cake. How dare you tell Canadians and South Americans that their shows are going to suck in comparison? A lot of people couldn't afford to make it this weekend, or yet, chose to hit up a couple other shows in their home town/country. Yet, you're telling them that theirs shows will suck and they should have went to PJ20.

    It seems like you've spent a lot of energy this weekend chasing down haters and getting on them for expressing their feelings. Granted, I don't necessarily agree with them, but I wasn't there. (setlists and videos look amazing to me) But you can't rag on somebody's upcoming good time just because they couldn't make it this weekend.
  • Stardog Champion?!?! I would have gone fucking NUTS. And yet I watch the videos, and everyone in the crowd is just standing there, maybe swaying from side-to-side a bit. Typical yankee crowd, and I've got to say, typical yankee shit blurted out on these forums the last couple of days.

    Imagine if they held a celebration concert in each continent... the euro one would be the greatest event ever to take place on earth!
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    looks to me like the only thing he stole was the life and energy from the gig.

    temple of the yawn indeed.

    cornells a vastly overrated poser.
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