Dog lies by master's casket during funeral...

F Me In The Brain

Your last post: "yea and the first 8 responses were about the dog..not the soldier or family..thats sad[/quote]


Actually my post was # 4 and it was about the people first. The dog was part of the emotion evoked by the picture but I believe everyone thought of the people before the dogs.

My post: Those brave people. So sad and the picture really drives it home.

Reading your responses I am inclined to side with MSnider44 and think you might be an idiot. Just sayin'

neilybabes86

F Me In The Brain wrote:

Your last post: "yea and the first 8 responses were about the dog..not the soldier or family..thats sad

Actually my post was # 4 and it was about the people first. The dog was part of the emotion evoked by the picture but I believe everyone thought of the people before the dogs.

My post: Those brave people. So sad and the picture really drives it home.

Reading your responses I am inclined to side with MSnider44 and think you might be an idiot. Just sayin'[/quote]


yup

SatansFuton

neilybabes, I think the reason people have such an outpouring of sympathy for the dog, is because unlike humans, that dog will never be able to understand.

While the wound might never be closed for the family, they can at least seek help, understand words of comfort, or at the very least understand why this man is dead. You can't explain these things to a dog, and they have no way to cope with grief, or go through the coping process that (hopefully for humans) ends with acceptance. Dogs (well most anyway) have a one track mind, and that track revolves around their master. What you see in that picture is a creature who has had its entire world ripped away, and it has no way of understanding or coping with it.

I understand what you're saying about the dead SEAL. And that too is sad, but he is gone and no longer has feelings, but that dog in the picture does, and it's in a world of shit right now. We all feel bad for the family as well, but humans are capable of moving on. It will certainly be difficult, and who knows, maybe they never will. But they have the ability to move on with their life to some extent, even though it will be very difficult.

It's the same reason we feel such sympathy for children, because they only know the grief and don't really understand why this is happening. But the children will eventually grow up and while maybe not accepting it, understand it. But even the most grown and mature dog will not be able to understand. And that's sad to some of us.

MSnider44

SatansFuton wrote:

neilybabes, I think the reason people have such an outpouring of sympathy for the dog, is because unlike humans, that dog will never be able to understand.

While the wound might never be closed for the family, they can at least seek help, understand words of comfort, or at the very least understand why this man is dead. You can't explain these things to a dog, and they have no way to cope with grief, or go through the coping process that (hopefully for humans) ends with acceptance. Dogs (well most anyway) have a one track mind, and that track revolves around their master. What you see in that picture is a creature who has had its entire world ripped away, and it has no way of understanding or coping with it.

I understand what you're saying about the dead SEAL. And that too is sad, but he is gone and no longer has feelings, but that dog in the picture does, and it's in a world of shit right now. We all feel bad for the family as well, but humans are capable of moving on. It will certainly be difficult, and who knows, maybe they never will. But they have the ability to move on with their life to some extent, even though it will be very difficult.

It's the same reason we feel such sympathy for children, because they only know the grief and don't really understand why this is happening. But the children will eventually grow up and while maybe not accepting it, understand it. But even the most grown and mature dog will not be able to understand. And that's sad to some of us.

Cheers to that......

neilybabes86

SatansFuton wrote:

neilybabes, I think the reason people have such an outpouring of sympathy for the dog, is because unlike humans, that dog will never be able to understand.

While the wound might never be closed for the family, they can at least seek help, understand words of comfort, or at the very least understand why this man is dead. You can't explain these things to a dog, and they have no way to cope with grief, or go through the coping process that (hopefully for humans) ends with acceptance. Dogs (well most anyway) have a one track mind, and that track revolves around their master. What you see in that picture is a creature who has had its entire world ripped away, and it has no way of understanding or coping with it.

I understand what you're saying about the dead SEAL. And that too is sad, but he is gone and no longer has feelings, but that dog in the picture does, and it's in a world of shit right now. We all feel bad for the family as well, but humans are capable of moving on. It will certainly be difficult, and who knows, maybe they never will. But they have the ability to move on with their life to some extent, even though it will be very difficult.

It's the same reason we feel such sympathy for children, because they only know the grief and don't really understand why this is happening. But the children will eventually grow up and while maybe not accepting it, understand it. But even the most grown and mature dog will not be able to understand. And that's sad to some of us.

the dog will be fine in a few weeks...a few bones and walks from another family member and all will be good(with the dog)..unlike the family ..which will never heal

SatansFuton

neilybabes86 wrote:

the dog will be fine in a few weeks...a few bones and walks from another family member and all will be good(with the dog)..unlike the family ..which will never heal

That's an assumption, and one that leads me to believe you don't really spend that much time around dogs. Many dogs are pretty much addicted to their masters. It's not something a bone is going to fix. I had a friend die in a car accident about 10 years ago, and his dog died shortly after because it would not eat.

And you don't know if the family will never heal. I've lost friends and loved ones, and while it's not easy, I have been able to move on with my life. I'll always miss them, but it doesn't bother me on a daily basis, and it hasn't destroyed my life. We as humans are capable (I emphasize capable, not that we all WILL) of moving on and coming to terms with a passing.

drsluggo

neilybabes86 wrote:

enough with the freaking dogs on here

their is a dead navy seal and everyone is going "aww poor dog" :roll:

how bout poor seal and family


filthy animals that piss and shit all over the streets

The dog WAS family to the Navy Seal who died. And no one is trying to minimize his death - its just an amazing story to see a dog that refused to leave the side of the casket.

It's a horrible story to read and its an incredibly sad reminder about how many have died recently in Afghanistan. Its a lot more fun to watch the youtube videos of dogs greeting their owners who are coming home from overseas...

drsluggo

neilybabes86 wrote:

the dog will be fine in a few weeks...a few bones and walks from another family member and all will be good(with the dog)..unlike the family ..which will never heal

That is just not true... :(

They might be OK and live life after, but they ALWAYS will remember people who are gone and even after weeks they will look for people that have been gone. It's actually really heartbreaking because as others have pointed out you just can't say 'they're not coming back' or 'they'll be back in a few more weeks.' It's at least a little easier for people because you can just say it.

MSnider44

We should just leave it alone with neilybabes86. He or she obviously has no connection with animals. He or she is also probably a Michael Vick supporter.

It is a proven, scientific fact, that animal companionship make people happier and healthier. This dog, Hawkeye, was as big of a part of this soldier's family as were his relatives.

If he were alive right now, I'm certain he would want nothing else changed with his funeral/memorial, and with how people are associating and remembering his life/death with his best friend and the sad feelings they have towards Hawkeye.

neilybabes86

people....its a dog....

my condolences to the family and dog

drsluggo

MSnider44 wrote:

We should just leave it alone with neilybabes86. He or she obviously has no connection with animals. He or she is also probably a Michael Vick supporter.

well thats not fair either... just because you don't love dogs doesnt mean you wish harm on them. :?

neilybabes86

drsluggo wrote:

MSnider44 wrote:

We should just leave it alone with neilybabes86. He or she obviously has no connection with animals. He or she is also probably a Michael Vick supporter.

well thats not fair either... just because you don't love dogs doesnt mean you wish harm on them. :?

too funny


i don't dislike dogs.....i just think we as humans make them filthy

im sorry but i don't want a dog pissing on a fire pump next to me

and don't get me started on watching people pick up dog shit ..(that's so fucking vile)

you have a dog fine...just let it piss and shit on your own property ..not all over the streets

rollings

"His Master's Voice"

This famous logo depicted Nipper the dog responding to the sound of his dead Master's voice.
(The dog was taken in by the man's brothers following his death.)

The logo was at first a hard sell.
Reasons were "nobody would know what he was doing"..."dogs don't listen to phonograph players"

drsluggo

neilybabes86 wrote:

drsluggo wrote:

MSnider44 wrote:

We should just leave it alone with neilybabes86. He or she obviously has no connection with animals. He or she is also probably a Michael Vick supporter.

well thats not fair either... just because you don't love dogs doesnt mean you wish harm on them. :?

too funny


i don't dislike dogs.....i just think we as humans make them filthy

im sorry but i don't want a dog pissing on a fire pump next to me

and don't get me started on watching people pick up dog shit ..(that's so fucking vile)

you have a dog fine...just let it piss and shit on your own property ..not all over the streets

By 'don't love' i dont mean dislike... I just mean if you're not a dog person that doesnt mean you hate them.

Yeah, they do piss on trees and hydrants... they're animals. I mean... do you hate rabbits, squirrels, deer, etc, etc? I've seen deer taking a dump right in the middle of people's yards out here - not to mention geese this time of the year. The geese are always in full force when it comes to leaving their mark!

pjhawks

people he is just trolling to get a rise out of you. don't cater to his wishes.

MSnider44

He'd make a terrible caveman. Where would he poop?

dcfaithful

neilybabes86 wrote:

and don't get me started on watching people pick up dog shit ..(that's so fucking vile)

It's actually common courtesy if you have a dog. Because if we don't, we'll have to hear from people who find dogs so "filthy" because they stepped in it... so these people are actually doing you a favor.

Is it vile to clean up after a child when he/she shits their pants?

F Me In The Brain

If a bear shits in the woods and nobody sees....is it still bear shit?

This thread got way off topic, sorry for contributing to the contrarian's cause. Good thought in posting, very sad for all family, friends and any connected to our brave defenders of freedom.

dcfaithful

F Me In The Brain wrote:

This thread got way off topic, sorry for contributing to the contrarian's cause. Good thought in posting, very sad for all family, friends and any connected to our brave defenders of freedom.

+1

gimmesometruth27

neilybabes86 wrote:

mfc2006 wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

enough with the freaking dogs on here

their is a dead navy seal and everyone is going "aww poor dog" :roll:

how bout poor seal and family


filthy animals that piss and shit all over the streets

the whole situation is sad. but if you can't see the love in that picture, then something is wrong.

i didn't say their wasn't love..but people should be concerned with the family not the dog

i don't think you should be telling anyone how to feel or what they should feel when they look at that picture.

people in this thread are feeling empathy for the dog. the dog lost his master. personally i don't mourn soldiers. they die doing their job, and doing what they believe was their calling in this life. they know the risks of their chosen profession. all of us should hope that we die doing what we want to do. the thread is about the dog lying near the casket because he does not want to leave his master. it is the ultimate picture of love and loyalty.

if you really want to know how i see that picture, i see a murderer, yes, seals are paid murderers, lying in a coffin with his most loyal friend lying beside him. i see grief in that dog, and i feel incredibly sorry for him. the surviving members of the family and friends have enough of a social support system and the support of an entire country. they don't need me to mourn this man along with them.